Do you people not realize that both political parties are at fault?

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    This back and forth blame game over the credit rating downgrade is just ridiculous. Democrats and Republicans in Congress, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama are all to blame. All Washington did was play the same "kick the can" bullshit that got us into this mess and now they point fingers at each other. Entitlements have to be reformed, revenue has to increase, tax loopholes need to be closed and everyone in DC knows this. But no one has the guts to take on their own side and fix it.

    This board reflects the stupidity that takes place in Washington. The dozens of tit for tat threads are pointless. If we would have defaulted our credit rating would have been downgraded by everyone and the economy would sink even further. If we don't reform SS and Medicare we will sink even further. None of our political leaders are willing to do the hard work, they all just want to get reelected. I'm disgusted by the weakness of our "leaders" to fail to put America before Republican Party, Democratic Party or reelection.

    Fuck them all!
     
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    All of this is an extension of what Dead Beat Bush started and carried out for 8 years. Obama is just the scape goat. Then the T-Bagger put the salt on the wound.
    There are no new entitlements and they have always been around and the spending relatively the same except the job loss led to unemployment and tax cuts led to lost revenue. Sound like the Bush era to me.
     
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    You are right both sides have done things that were not helpful.

    The side whos platform reflects the ideas that were the major cause is the republican party though.
     
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    Obama is not "just the scape goat". He is as much at fault as Bush. SS and Medicare are growing faster then the GDP. Baby Boomers are going to overwhelm the system and Democrats are whining about medicare providers possibly having to take a cut. Republicans are signing no tax pledges when tax rates and revenues are at 50 year lows. Both sides are full of shit.
     
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    after the downgrade can you really trust what the Left says about finances and the economy
    For example PapaObama Care was going to instantly create 400,000 jobs



    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNiLYEiFUMU]‪Obamacare will create 400,000 jobs ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, says Choppy Hands McBotox‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Wrong, both sides are equally to blame. What should be done to fix medicare and ss?
     
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    Besides the taxes
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    Some studies have shown that PapaObama care is having a real impact on
    killing jobs NOW

    Analysis: Job Growth Was 10-Fold Higher Before the Democrats Passed Obamacare

    “Private-sector job creation initially recovered from the recession at a normal rate, leading to predictions last year of a “Recovery Summer.” Since April 2010, however, net private-sector job creation has stalled. Within two months of the passage of Obamacare, the job market stopped improving. This suggests that businesses are not exaggerating when they tell pollsters that the new health care law is holding back hiring.”

    Sherk writes that Obamacare “discourages employers from hiring in several ways:
     
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    Yes...Been saying so for a long time.

    Which party controls 1600 Pennsylvania and the Senate, and was 100% in charge for two years?

    Whoever is in charge gets the blame and/or credit...Except, of course, in the media, where nearly nothing is ever the fault of anyone who carries a (D) by their name.

    Right or wrong, that's how it works.
     
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    So, bush increasing the debt from 5 to 10.5 trillion, passing unfunded Medicare Part D, Tarp, and 2 non-budgeted wars has no blame? I'm not absolving democrats of blame, I'm saying they all (R&D) share, equally, 100% of the blame.
     

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