Do you believe signing Grovers "No Tax Pledge" is appropriate or smart?

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Do you believe a lifetime no new tax pledge is responsible to take?

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  2. no

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    Most new congressmen are confronted with this pledge before they are even elected. I see the lefts complaint about this as partially valid. While I disagree with the premise of raising taxes in general I have a problem with this anyhow. A prospective congressman does not know what lies before him and to box himself into a corner and remove a set of chips from himself before he even sits down at the poker table is just stupid.

    Then there is the fact that Grover uses this pledge signed or not to try to pressure individuals with the threat of big money either used against you or for you just seems wrong. This is where everyone should agree. The right doesn't like unions flooding money into elections to further their agenda right? Well this in a way is no different.

    I saw one congressman mention that a pledge signed may have had merit when it was signed but years later circumstances change yet he is somehow still bound to a rigid ideology.

    Bottom line their may come a time when the only way to save our country is through higher taxes and that is far better than ending up like Greece.

    And I for one would quickly take a 10:1 cuts for tax deal if the cuts were real. When we remove taxes from the kitty we have NOTHING left to negotiate with.
     
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    As a conservative I'd have no problem signing while campaigning for office.

    I don't get all the hullabaloo about it. If one signs constituents know he/she won't vote to raise taxes. If one doesn't sign constituents know that person might vote to raise taxes. And the electorate votes however they see fit.
     
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    As a Conservative Id tell Grover to mind his own fucking aristocratic business.

    I'm for dropping taxes and spending and regulation because I'm Conservative not because I signed some idiots stupid pledge
     
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    DO you think your tax dollars should be spent for :


    The federal government is spending $2.6 million to make sure prostitutes in China drink less on the job.
    NIH Funds $2.6 Million Study To Get Prostitutes In China To Drink Less | Fox News
    WHY??


    Why $1.44 million for Vietnamese male prostitutes??

    The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), a component of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), has so far awarded $1.44 million in federal funds to a project that, among other things, is estimating the size of the population and examining the “social milieu” of male prostitutes in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

    http://www.ihatethemedia.com/1-44-million-tax-dollars-spent-to-study-male-prostitutes-in-vietnam

    WHY...Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties!!!
    WHY???

    WHY???
     
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    but those policies will cause failure
     
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    When you sign a tax pledge like this you are saying you will refuse to work with the majority.

    You know the people elected by the majority of Americans.

    You know Democracy?
     
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    No I don't think that's a proper way to spend our money but that's for another topic.
     
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    Do you know what the work "Dropping" means?
     
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    The majority ran the Democrats out in record numbers in 2010
     
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    I prefer politicians not to sign promises of any kind and for the precise reason you have mentioned above: I saw one congressman mention that a pledge signed may have had merit when it was signed but years later circumstances change yet he is somehow still bound to a rigid ideology.

    Politicians needs to keep their options open because of that one constant: Change.
     
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