Do Social Security and Medicare represent socialism?

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Do Social Security and Medicare represent Socialism?

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  2. Yes

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  3. Depends on how you define the word "socialism"

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  1. Micky G. Jagger
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    Social Security and Medicare represent socialism.

    --Glenn Beck​

    I say Beck is wrong. But, what say you?
     
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    I think it's closer to Fascism personally as Medicare Parts "C" and "D" subsidizes the pharmaceutical and insurance corporations so I'd say Beck is wrong.
     
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    Fascism/socialism...Two sides of the same totalitarian coin.

    The navel contemplating differences are of mere form, largely irrelevant to the dictatorial central planner substance.
     
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    Well, point taken although Fascism is more of a marriage between government and corporations;according to Mussolini; and Socialism is where government controls the production of goods and services.
     
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    Right.

    Willy Messerschmitt gets to put his name on his airplane factories, where Mikoayn and Guervich don't.

    In the meantime, both systems feature military dictatorships, authoritarian central economic planning, social stratification via political affiliations, propaganda ministries instead of a free press, slave labor/concentration camps for dissenters and other "undesirables", etcetera....
     
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    lol,yup.
     
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    Well, of course it's Socialistic. What I find strange is that I've never heard a good argument to actually combat the ideology of Socialism.
     
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    The arguments you will hear are the navel contemplating kind; i.e. total state ownership of production vs. the given regime allowing "free enterprise" as long as it serves the needs of the state, first and foremost.

    That they end up either imploding economically or degenerating into brutal authoritarian police states get poo-poo-ed, under the ever popular refrain of "yeah, but it just wasn't done the right way that time".

    You get used to it. ;)
     
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    Social Security and Medicare are favored by an overwhelming majority of Americans. Does this make the U. S. a Socialist Nation?

    I say it does. But, what say you?
     
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    pensions and healthcare for the elderly are not "socialism". What would you prefer the "polar bear option"?
     

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