Do Social Conditions Overwhelm the Importance of Intelligence?

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    I have repeatedly been called a racist for believing intelligence is the strongest contributing factor in social outcomes, and indeed is probably the the main reason why blacks (on average) perform so poorly on practically all social traits.

    If there was a study of children from stable and affluent homes, equal in SES, access to education and other environmental factors but unequal in IQ, what would you IQ deniers predict for the social outcomes of those children? Obviously those who proclaim that only cultural factors count should predict that there will be no difference.

    The reality is that the more intelligent siblings dramatically outperformed their duller counterparts. In ratios that mimic the results of everyday reality.

    a previous thread asked if racists were stupid. if racism is defined as noticing that the races have differing cognitive abilities infuencing different social outcomes then I ask the question 'are equalitarians stupid?' because they blythly ignore the vast preponderance of evidence showing that there are racial differences and different racial outcomes.
     
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    The media overwhelms intelligence.
     
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    Please repeat in english.

    I think an excellent experiment would be to swap two siblings from the ghetto with two siblings from suburbia and at the end of eighteen years administer IQ tests.
     
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    Social conditions are a contributing factor in education. Intelligence requires training, nurturing and desire to learn.
     
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    A genius IQ in lower performing school. Kid excels. Shot down while walking home-social factor wins.
     
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    Really? How many kids get shot walking home? 50%, 5%, 0.0005%? Reality says that that is not a normal outcome. Nor do most kids, even most black kids, live in the ghetto.

    Life in an average school, an average neighbourhood, an average job shows that smarter individuals do better than duller individuals.
     
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    There have been adoption studies showing that black babies growing up in superior households exhibit better performance as children which slowly fades away until theyresemble their birth parents much more than their adopted parents by the time they are adults. Head Start programs show the same fade away, only sooner.
     
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    I concur that there are more factors than just intelligence. That does not prove that intelligence is not a main factor. Intelligence is also there even if it is not measured or nurtured.
     
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    Intelligence is not a "race" thing unless you mean the human race.
     
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    Are we losing the human race?
     

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