charwin95
Gold Member
Cry me river. Dude you hate Obama so it doesn't really matter what you are saying.
Yes you posted several lies about Obama. I asked you the following questions and you avoided all of them. Here's a few of them.
1. You claim Obama is anti business. Like what?
His first measure was to stop oil drilling in the Gulf in spite of a court order to remove that order. He then advanced to regulating banks as to who they could impose late penalties on for late or non payment. He also took over college loans that were typically provided by banks. He closed down many car dealerships when he took over the automobile industry. His minions attacked Gibson Guitar company not once, but twice. Their claim was because of the wood they were using to make their quality guitars, however, Fender (their competitor) used the same imported wood and not so much as a fine. But of course, Gibson is known to support Republicans and Fender supports Democrats.
Commie Care included how insurance companies were allowed to spend their own money. Insurance companies use their premium collections to invest so their profits could offset their claims. Obama stopped that. In Commie Care, it's required that insurance companies spend at least 80% of their premium collections on claims alone. And of course, his new taxes on all manufactures of medical equipment to support Commie Care was no help to them either.
2. Regulations that stop businesses? Like what?
Tobacco was one of his main issues. In spite of lying to us about nobody making under 250K would not see a new tax increase of any kind, he placed a sin tax on tobacco products within his first few months in office; one of the largest federal sin taxes in recent history. From there he stopped mail order tobacco sales from American Indians who had exclusive rights to sell their products. Then he attacked roll-your-own tobacco shops. Smokers would go to those shops to roll their own cigarettes to escape taxes that were put on manufactured cigarettes. Because of that, many of those shops were forced to close down.
Besides the coal industry, he attacked energy providers that used coal and closed them down. The ones allowed to remain open were forced to invest millions into cleaner energy.
Regulations. I do not believe a single word you are saying Ray. You only mentioned 3 industries guitar, coal and tobacco. But you made it sound like in general.
Where are your links to support your claim?
I have some of them but don't have time to post each one. DumBama even closed down car dealerships for crying out loud. You can google all of these and more and they will pop up at the top of the search list. And I mentioned the Gulf as well which ramifications closed down many other businesses that relied on the oil drillers.
The point is he was the most anti-business President of our lifetime. He put his politics before jobs.
Gibson Press Release
Highway bill is expected to put an end to roll-your-own cigarettes
At least 3 coal plants announced closing since Obama's energy speech
https://jalopnik.com/the-feds-killed-pontiac-bob-lutz-says-1452735716
EPA Rules To Force 85 Coal-Fired Generators To Close By The End Of This Year
Cook Medical shelves Midwest expansion plans
Fourth Georgia hospital closes due to Obamacare payment cuts
IHOP Owner Gets Pancaked by Obamacare
REALLY Ray? Your belief, hatred and blame everything against Obama is unbelievable. I know you are not an honest person. Are you even credible? Why should I Google your post? So it's up to you post your links. I know already from the start something is wrong with your anti Obama post.
If Obama is anti business how did we gain 2 millions jobs in 2016? I do not believe Trump created jobs first quarter of this year and get credits for low unemployment.
1. Gibson. That is a press release repeat a press release defending themselves from illegal activity. You are saying they raided Gibson just for fun. Did Obama told them to raid Gibson? Pure dishonesty on your part.
2. Pontiac. It's get better. Read my link from your own Jalopnic. GM knew Pontiac Was On The Rope Before The Feds Ordered It Killed. GM killed Hummer before that because it's also unprofitable. If I'm bailing your business---Why should I allow you to make the same dying product? Pure dishonesty on your part.
3. Tobacco. Coming from a store that don't like new regulations. Most or all Americans will tell you where you can smoke. Cigarettes can cause cancer so Obama place it under FDA guidelines. So I admired him for doing that. Smoking is not good to your health. You are not being honest.
CDC - Fact Sheet - Health Effects of Cigarette Smoking - Smoking & Tobacco Use
4. Coal industry. Total bull crap. Total bull crap. Goal and plans with US commitment to Paris Accord will not take affect till 2030. Coal industry is dying because of Natural Gas which is cheaper to extract ( mostly coming from Texas Permian Basin) and cleaner. With Obama or not the coal industry is going to die. That's the reality. In reality clean energy has created more jobs than all fossil energy combined.
I will not even bother to blast where your biased, liar and unknown links came from.
5. Obamacare is total separate arguments but with the replacement Trumpcare is the no better but worse and garbage.
Final 2016 Jobs Report Marks 75 Consecutive Months of Growth - The Atlantic
GM Knew Pontiac Was On The Ropes Before The Feds Ordered It Killed
Obama signs bill putting tobacco products under FDA oversight - CNN.com