Damn I'm glad I dont have any kids.
I too, am glad you don't have any kids.
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Damn I'm glad I dont have any kids.
I too, am glad you don't have any kids.
That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.Your guy already had favorable trends, not a recession.Did Barack Obama turn the economy around...or is the US economy strong enough to survive someone who was really unskilled at dealing with economic issues? Barack Obama oversaw the worst recovery from an economic downturn since FDR and the Great Depression! It could have been far worse however if the Democrats hadn't lost the midterms in 2010. Barry, Nancy and Harry had Cap & Trade legislation cued up as their next legislative objective...something that would have brought our already anemic economic recovery to a screeching halt. Then in Obama's second term the economy was driven by an energy boom that was created from the use of fracking...something that Barack Obama didn't support! Quite frankly...I find it hard to credit Obama with much of the recovery at all. After Larry Summers and Kristina Romer jumped ship I'm hard pressed to tell you what Obama's economic "strategy" was for the last six years he was in office. He really stopped trying to fix the economy because he didn't have any solutions.
And what has "my guy" done with those favorable trends, Daniel? The answer to that is that he's got the economy banging along so good that the Fed has had to raise interest rates 5 times since Trump got elected. If you knew anything about economics you'd know that the Fed rate is a prime indicator of how well the economy is doing at any given time.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
The Right Wing had Nothing but Repeal, not Any form of better Solution at lower Cost.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.Your guy already had favorable trends, not a recession.
And what has "my guy" done with those favorable trends, Daniel? The answer to that is that he's got the economy banging along so good that the Fed has had to raise interest rates 5 times since Trump got elected. If you knew anything about economics you'd know that the Fed rate is a prime indicator of how well the economy is doing at any given time.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
The Right Wing had Nothing but Repeal, not Any form of better Solution at lower Cost.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.And what has "my guy" done with those favorable trends, Daniel? The answer to that is that he's got the economy banging along so good that the Fed has had to raise interest rates 5 times since Trump got elected. If you knew anything about economics you'd know that the Fed rate is a prime indicator of how well the economy is doing at any given time.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.Your guy already had favorable trends, not a recession.
And what has "my guy" done with those favorable trends, Daniel? The answer to that is that he's got the economy banging along so good that the Fed has had to raise interest rates 5 times since Trump got elected. If you knew anything about economics you'd know that the Fed rate is a prime indicator of how well the economy is doing at any given time.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.And what has "my guy" done with those favorable trends, Daniel? The answer to that is that he's got the economy banging along so good that the Fed has had to raise interest rates 5 times since Trump got elected. If you knew anything about economics you'd know that the Fed rate is a prime indicator of how well the economy is doing at any given time.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
You must of missed all the GOP candidate ads claiming they supported covering pre-existing conditions without raising the cost of insurance for that segment.
I think that's what all the GOP candidates claimed in the Minnesota Senate and House races.
Immigrants who come here for free stuff are going to vote for those who promise them free stuff. Hardly a surprise.
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That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
You must of missed all the GOP candidate ads claiming they supported covering pre-existing conditions without raising the cost of insurance for that segment.
I think that's what all the GOP candidates claimed in the Minnesota Senate and House races.
I didn't miss anything, Kiwi...the reason I call the ACA a "poison pill" is that it was designed not to be economically feasible (anyone with an 8th grade math level can crunch the numbers and see it CAN'T work!) but (and I'll give Democrats props for figuring this strategy out) the authors of the ACA knew quite well that once you give people an "entitlement" it becomes political suicide to take that entitlement away! Politicians are saying they support covering pre-existing conditions because they know they'll lose elections if they don't.
My prediction is that we'll see the ACA gradually implode by itself and then there will be two choices offered...a Medicare for all system that will be either incredibly expensive or will offer awful healthcare...or a return to insurance paid for by private individuals and their employers and the world class healthcare that provided.
The Competition of a better solution at lower cost, was the Capital way; nothing but repeal is simple socialism on a national basis.The Right Wing had Nothing but Repeal, not Any form of better Solution at lower Cost.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
The need to repeal the ACA comes from the way the ACA was designed by the Democrats who wrote the legislation, Daniel! It's the legislative version of a "poison pill"...written in such a way that it can't be feasible! To be blunt...the Affordable Care Act was designed NOT to be affordable! It was designed to fail by it's architects!
who needs socialism on a national basis that is financed? the right wing doesn't care about revenue shortfalls and can't do anything about spending.Immigrants who come here for free stuff are going to vote for those who promise them free stuff. Hardly a surprise.
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The right wing has Nothing but Repeal. Bah, hum bug, is all. Not any form of better solutions at lower cost, the Whole time.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.the economy was trending upward, anyway; tax cut economics just mean the rich get richer faster on the Peoples' Debt.
I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
You must of missed all the GOP candidate ads claiming they supported covering pre-existing conditions without raising the cost of insurance for that segment.
I think that's what all the GOP candidates claimed in the Minnesota Senate and House races.
I didn't miss anything, Kiwi...the reason I call the ACA a "poison pill" is that it was designed not to be economically feasible (anyone with an 8th grade math level can crunch the numbers and see it CAN'T work!) but (and I'll give Democrats props for figuring this strategy out) the authors of the ACA knew quite well that once you give people an "entitlement" it becomes political suicide to take that entitlement away! Politicians are saying they support covering pre-existing conditions because they know they'll lose elections if they don't.
My prediction is that we'll see the ACA gradually implode by itself and then there will be two choices offered...a Medicare for all system that will be either incredibly expensive or will offer awful healthcare...or a return to insurance paid for by private individuals and their employers and the world class healthcare that provided.
And, the right wing still has nothing but Repeal, not any form of better solution at lower cost.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
You must of missed all the GOP candidate ads claiming they supported covering pre-existing conditions without raising the cost of insurance for that segment.
I think that's what all the GOP candidates claimed in the Minnesota Senate and House races.
I didn't miss anything, Kiwi...the reason I call the ACA a "poison pill" is that it was designed not to be economically feasible (anyone with an 8th grade math level can crunch the numbers and see it CAN'T work!) but (and I'll give Democrats props for figuring this strategy out) the authors of the ACA knew quite well that once you give people an "entitlement" it becomes political suicide to take that entitlement away! Politicians are saying they support covering pre-existing conditions because they know they'll lose elections if they don't.
My prediction is that we'll see the ACA gradually implode by itself and then there will be two choices offered...a Medicare for all system that will be either incredibly expensive or will offer awful healthcare...or a return to insurance paid for by private individuals and their employers and the world class healthcare that provided.
First of all, I would like to point out, that I was one of the first posters on USMB that was against Obamacare, primarily because of the mandate.
Secondly, prior to the Dems poor attempt to reform healthcare and prior to the implementation of Obamacare, healthcare costs were as out of control and it is now.
View attachment 228384
The U.S. ranks last in health care among the 11 nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund.
https://www.newsweek.com/united-states-health-care-rated
Also, America does not have the best healthcare in the world. View attachment 228385
In other words, Americans are not getting a bang for their dollar. The US has the highest costs by far for healthcare and the cost does not mirror the quality.
Immigrants who come here for free stuff are going to vote for those who promise them free stuff. Hardly a surprise.
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It seems there are many folks in red states who like a lot of free stuff too.
2018’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States
The Competition of a better solution at lower cost, was the Capital way; nothing but repeal is simple socialism on a national basis.The Right Wing had Nothing but Repeal, not Any form of better Solution at lower Cost.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.I hate to point out the painfully inconvenient, Daniel but the rich got far richer under Barack Obama's two terms than the poor or the Middle Class did. If you weren't such an ideologue you'd know that!
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
The need to repeal the ACA comes from the way the ACA was designed by the Democrats who wrote the legislation, Daniel! It's the legislative version of a "poison pill"...written in such a way that it can't be feasible! To be blunt...the Affordable Care Act was designed NOT to be affordable! It was designed to fail by it's architects!
And, the right wing still has nothing but Repeal, not any form of better solution at lower cost.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
You must of missed all the GOP candidate ads claiming they supported covering pre-existing conditions without raising the cost of insurance for that segment.
I think that's what all the GOP candidates claimed in the Minnesota Senate and House races.
I didn't miss anything, Kiwi...the reason I call the ACA a "poison pill" is that it was designed not to be economically feasible (anyone with an 8th grade math level can crunch the numbers and see it CAN'T work!) but (and I'll give Democrats props for figuring this strategy out) the authors of the ACA knew quite well that once you give people an "entitlement" it becomes political suicide to take that entitlement away! Politicians are saying they support covering pre-existing conditions because they know they'll lose elections if they don't.
My prediction is that we'll see the ACA gradually implode by itself and then there will be two choices offered...a Medicare for all system that will be either incredibly expensive or will offer awful healthcare...or a return to insurance paid for by private individuals and their employers and the world class healthcare that provided.
First of all, I would like to point out, that I was one of the first posters on USMB that was against Obamacare, primarily because of the mandate.
Secondly, prior to the Dems poor attempt to reform healthcare and prior to the implementation of Obamacare, healthcare costs were as out of control and it is now.
View attachment 228384
The U.S. ranks last in health care among the 11 nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund.
https://www.newsweek.com/united-states-health-care-rated
Also, America does not have the best healthcare in the world. View attachment 228385
In other words, Americans are not getting a bang for their dollar. The US has the highest costs by far for healthcare and the cost does not mirror the quality.
This is what we are supposed to be doing:Immigrants who come here for free stuff are going to vote for those who promise them free stuff. Hardly a surprise.
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It seems there are many folks in red states who like a lot of free stuff too.
2018’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States
Oh blah blah blah so sleepy....zzzzzz
You Globalist Prog loons destroy the manufacturing, farming and natural resource extraction industries in red states, and then diss people for using the programs they were forced to pay to support when they had jobs.
And I am not going to fall for your bogus game of making it morally equivalent for CITIZENS and INVADERS to use taxpayer funded programs.
excuses have less value under any form of capitalism than results.The Competition of a better solution at lower cost, was the Capital way; nothing but repeal is simple socialism on a national basis.The Right Wing had Nothing but Repeal, not Any form of better Solution at lower Cost.That was supposed to include healthcare reform. The right wing wants to abolish that too.
Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
The need to repeal the ACA comes from the way the ACA was designed by the Democrats who wrote the legislation, Daniel! It's the legislative version of a "poison pill"...written in such a way that it can't be feasible! To be blunt...the Affordable Care Act was designed NOT to be affordable! It was designed to fail by it's architects!
Did that make sense when you wrote it, Daniel? You seem to think that babbling nonsense somehow constitutes an intelligent reply to an ongoing debate...it doesn't!
why not end our drug war to pay for health care reform? the right wing refuses to be serious about it with serious, wartime tax rates. It must be frivolous, as a result.And, the right wing still has nothing but Repeal, not any form of better solution at lower cost.Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
You must of missed all the GOP candidate ads claiming they supported covering pre-existing conditions without raising the cost of insurance for that segment.
I think that's what all the GOP candidates claimed in the Minnesota Senate and House races.
I didn't miss anything, Kiwi...the reason I call the ACA a "poison pill" is that it was designed not to be economically feasible (anyone with an 8th grade math level can crunch the numbers and see it CAN'T work!) but (and I'll give Democrats props for figuring this strategy out) the authors of the ACA knew quite well that once you give people an "entitlement" it becomes political suicide to take that entitlement away! Politicians are saying they support covering pre-existing conditions because they know they'll lose elections if they don't.
My prediction is that we'll see the ACA gradually implode by itself and then there will be two choices offered...a Medicare for all system that will be either incredibly expensive or will offer awful healthcare...or a return to insurance paid for by private individuals and their employers and the world class healthcare that provided.
First of all, I would like to point out, that I was one of the first posters on USMB that was against Obamacare, primarily because of the mandate.
Secondly, prior to the Dems poor attempt to reform healthcare and prior to the implementation of Obamacare, healthcare costs were as out of control and it is now.
View attachment 228384
The U.S. ranks last in health care among the 11 nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund.
https://www.newsweek.com/united-states-health-care-rated
Also, America does not have the best healthcare in the world. View attachment 228385
In other words, Americans are not getting a bang for their dollar. The US has the highest costs by far for healthcare and the cost does not mirror the quality.
The right wing suggested tort reform to help lower healthcare costs, Daniel...but Democrats took in millions of dollars in contributions from personal injury lawyers and for some reason wouldn't even discuss that issue! (eye roll)
And, the right wing still has nothing but Repeal, not any form of better solution at lower cost.Actually, conservatives want healthcare reform, Daniel...but what they don't want is government run healthcare. When you liberals got power back in 2008 you pushed through ObamaCare against the wishes of a rather wide majority of Americans. Americans wanted something done about the high cost of healthcare. You didn't give them that...you gave them a redo of healthcare where the poor and unhealthy were subsidized by raising the rates on Middle Class and healthy people.
You must of missed all the GOP candidate ads claiming they supported covering pre-existing conditions without raising the cost of insurance for that segment.
I think that's what all the GOP candidates claimed in the Minnesota Senate and House races.
I didn't miss anything, Kiwi...the reason I call the ACA a "poison pill" is that it was designed not to be economically feasible (anyone with an 8th grade math level can crunch the numbers and see it CAN'T work!) but (and I'll give Democrats props for figuring this strategy out) the authors of the ACA knew quite well that once you give people an "entitlement" it becomes political suicide to take that entitlement away! Politicians are saying they support covering pre-existing conditions because they know they'll lose elections if they don't.
My prediction is that we'll see the ACA gradually implode by itself and then there will be two choices offered...a Medicare for all system that will be either incredibly expensive or will offer awful healthcare...or a return to insurance paid for by private individuals and their employers and the world class healthcare that provided.
First of all, I would like to point out, that I was one of the first posters on USMB that was against Obamacare, primarily because of the mandate.
Secondly, prior to the Dems poor attempt to reform healthcare and prior to the implementation of Obamacare, healthcare costs were as out of control and it is now.
View attachment 228384
The U.S. ranks last in health care among the 11 nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund.
https://www.newsweek.com/united-states-health-care-rated
Also, America does not have the best healthcare in the world. View attachment 228385
In other words, Americans are not getting a bang for their dollar. The US has the highest costs by far for healthcare and the cost does not mirror the quality.
The right wing suggested tort reform to help lower healthcare costs, Daniel...but Democrats took in millions of dollars in contributions from personal injury lawyers and for some reason wouldn't even discuss that issue! (eye roll)