Did we lose the cold war?

I know it is heretical to even ask it ,
But did we fall for a rope a dope ?

Who is WE?

The Masters of Capitalism won their war against the Soviets.

If you identify with them, then I suppose that you won.

However I think that the American middle class lost the cold war.

We paid for that win in multiple ways...

For example, much of our FREE TRADE policy is the residual of our nation giving third world nations license to import into this nation in return for those nations NOT moving into the Soviet sphere of influence.

For instance, in order to findally defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan we helped consitute the terrorist organizations that our nation is twisting itself into knots fighting right now.

So to the extent that the world was blown into nuclear dust, we won.

To the extend that now the masters of capitalism have nothing to fear from the Communist lunatics, also a win.

But as to that win leading to a better life for the average American?

No, not really.

heh, you would elevate the domino theory of communism inclusive of the intracacies of underlying forces like bretton woods, the wto, imf, et all true motivators of foriegn policy(s) to economic chess here?

Insinuating a world of grey hats who's allegiance(s) are possible of self enlightened interests inbettween the time honored white/black hat paradigm opens up can can of seething aultruistic worms

They're COMMIES for gawds sake! KILL 'Em ALL!



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Yes.

The battle is always for power and economic dominance. Sometimes it's a hot war and sometimes it's war by economy.

But either way its a game played with game theory

The Soviets lost that cold war.

Not surprisingly they lost it because their economy couldn't support that half-century of conflict.
 
You never won any war, at any time, anywhere.It's all a game so the fatcats can enrichen themselves by using brainwashed, flag waving assholes to attack their moronic counterparts across another line drawn on a map.
The Eurotrash bankers still own your asses and the Nazi's you supposedly defeated are now running your country and have been since the days of JFK.
Have a nice day.
 
Who is WE?

The Masters of Capitalism won their war against the Soviets.

If you identify with them, then I suppose that you won.

However I think that the American middle class lost the cold war.

We paid for that win in multiple ways...

For example, much of our FREE TRADE policy is the residual of our nation giving third world nations license to import into this nation in return for those nations NOT moving into the Soviet sphere of influence.

For instance, in order to findally defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan we helped consitute the terrorist organizations that our nation is twisting itself into knots fighting right now.

So to the extent that the world was blown into nuclear dust, we won.

To the extend that now the masters of capitalism have nothing to fear from the Communist lunatics, also a win.

But as to that win leading to a better life for the average American?

No, not really.

heh, you would elevate the domino theory of communism inclusive of the intracacies of underlying forces like bretton woods, the wto, imf, et all true motivators of foriegn policy(s) to economic chess here?

Insinuating a world of grey hats who's allegiance(s) are possible of self enlightened interests inbettween the time honored white/black hat paradigm opens up can can of seething aultruistic worms

They're COMMIES for gawds sake! KILL 'Em ALL!



(oops, slipped there.....)

Yes.

The battle is always for power and economic dominance. Sometimes it's a hot war and sometimes it's war by economy.

But either way its a game played with game theory

The Soviets lost that cold war.

Not surprisingly they lost it because their economy couldn't support that half-century of conflict.

interestingly enough, countries like China who are the chief bondholders to our debt are actively confronting the monetary consortiums within their scope of influence to degrade the value of them.

apparently they don't share the sentiment we do of saving the planet from itself being a good investment, and see us in a rather refracted illumination

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yeeeeehawwwwwww.............
 
I know it is heretical to even ask it ,
But did we fall for a rope a dope ?


We won the Cold War.

The modern day Crusade launched by 43 is what we are currently in the process of losing.

The economy is suffering due to the weight of the debt and assorted other problems, but the debt can be traced to the this same problem for one part of the cause.

W had a pretty binary approach to all things. Trying to fight a conventional war against a guerilla opponent is a fool's errand.
 
No we didn't

Ron Reagan won it for us and brought the Soviet Union to it's knees
 
is that what happened?

man, we should elect Ronnie again

we can prop him up in the rose garden with wolf blitzers hand up his a*s to flap his beak at CNN , he won't mind, being dead and all.....
 

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