Did Liberalism Cause Virginia Tech Shootings?

[Mr.Conley]

The very idea of this thread is disgusting.

 

[red states rule]

The very idea of this thread is disgusting.

I agree

Liberalsim is disgusting

 

[red states rule]

I can't but I can give a couple of educated guesses. That's if you really want to know, if it's just a wind-up then I won't waste my time or yours.

Despite Rise in Gun Crime in Britain, ABC News Trumpets UK's Handgun Ban
Posted by Brent Baker on April 23, 2007 - 02:36.
World News Sunday continued ABC's gun control crusade, devoting its “A Closer Look” segment to how after the 1996 school shooting in Dunblane, Scotland, Great Britain virtually banned handguns, suggesting it's worth emulating. But though reporter David Wright conceded, in the middle of his story, that “gun crime has risen here” since handguns were outlawed, thus seemingly undermining the premise that making guns illegal lessens crime committed with guns, he hung his story on how “Britain has never again had a school shooting.” But if gun crime is rising, that sounds more like good luck than a result of the ban.

Wright featured two Britons exasperated by the refusal of the U.S. to follow Britain's lead. Gun control activist Ann Pearston contended: “What ordinary people have got to do in the United States, if they really care about what happened at Virginia Tech, is to make the banning of firearms in the United States an election issue.” Mick North, the father of a child killed in the Dunblane incident, fretted: “Nothing happened after Columbine. Nothing happened after Nickel Mines in the Amish community. After a few weeks, nothing will happen after Virginia Tech. Even the death of 32 people may not be enough to build up the necessary momentum.”

For early examples of ABC's crusading post-Virginia Tech, check the April 20 NewsBusters item, “Disappointment at ABC News: 'Politicians and Gun Control: Why Aren’t They Outraged?'” And from April 17, “Nets Blame Virginia's 'Lax' Gun Laws, Gibson and Couric Press Bush on Gun Control.”

Anchor Dan Harris set up the April 22 World News Sunday story:


“With Virginia Tech on everyone's mind, we're going to take A Closer Look tonight at the aftermath of another school massacre, one that changed the lives and changed the law across Great Britain. Eleven years ago, in a small town in Scotland, a man killed 15 elementary students, a crime that Britain vowed would never happen again and since that day has not. ABC's David Wright reports on the lessons of Dunblane.”

David Wright began, from Scotland: “March 13th, 1996, three years before Columbine, this tiny town faced the news every community dreads -- a rampage at an elementary school. Most of the victims, like Sophie North, were just 5 years old.”

Mick North, victim's father: “She would be 16-1/2 now, a young woman causing me no end of problems, no doubt, but problems that I would have loved to have had.”

Wright: “Same age as some of those kids at Virginia Tech.”

North: “Probably just about, yes.”

Wright: “Because of Dunblane, 16 kids will never go to college. The gunman, a former scoutmaster named Thomas Hamilton, killed their teacher, too, before taking his own life. In three minutes time, he fired 105 bullets. Had he arrived at the school during morning assembly as he had planned, the death toll would have been even higher. All of Britain was shocked by Dunblane, even more so because the guns used in the rampage were legally purchased. And as a direct result of what happened here, this country decided to ban virtually all handguns.”

Tony Blair in 1997: “They have done enormous carnage often to wholly innocent civilians, including children. The sooner Britain gets a lead in this, the better. It's the right and civilized things to do.”

Wright: “It helped bring Tony Blair to power. His party made banning handguns a campaign issue.”

Ann Pearston, gun control activist: “We just said after Dunblane that never again was someone going to walk into a school and massacre children.”

Wright: “They never have, not in Britain. Gun crime has risen here during the past decade. But Britain has never again had a school shooting.”

Pearston: “What ordinary people have got to do in the United States, if they really care about what happened at Virginia Tech, is to make the banning of firearms in the United States an election issue.”

North: “Sadly, I won't hold my breath.”

Wright: “Sophie North's father is well aware that the handgun debate is a sacred cow in the U.S., in part because of the Second Amendment.”

North: “Nothing happened after Columbine. Nothing happened after Nickel Mines in the Amish community. After a few weeks, nothing will happen after Virginia Tech. Even the death of 32 people may not be enough to build up the necessary momentum.”

Wright concluded: “Over here, they're watching in horror and sympathy. David Wright, ABC News, Dunblane.”

http://newsbusters.org/node/12230

 

[Diuretic]

Despite Rise in Gun Crime in Britain, ABC News Trumpets UK's Handgun Ban
Posted by Brent Baker on April 23, 2007 - 02:36.
World News Sunday continued ABC's gun control crusade, devoting its “A Closer Look” segment to how after the 1996 school shooting in Dunblane, Scotland, Great Britain virtually banned handguns, suggesting it's worth emulating. But though reporter David Wright conceded, in the middle of his story, that “gun crime has risen here” since handguns were outlawed, thus seemingly undermining the premise that making guns illegal lessens crime committed with guns, he hung his story on how “Britain has never again had a school shooting.” But if gun crime is rising, that sounds more like good luck than a result of the ban.

Wright featured two Britons exasperated by the refusal of the U.S. to follow Britain's lead. Gun control activist Ann Pearston contended: “What ordinary people have got to do in the United States, if they really care about what happened at Virginia Tech, is to make the banning of firearms in the United States an election issue.” Mick North, the father of a child killed in the Dunblane incident, fretted: “Nothing happened after Columbine. Nothing happened after Nickel Mines in the Amish community. After a few weeks, nothing will happen after Virginia Tech. Even the death of 32 people may not be enough to build up the necessary momentum.”

For early examples of ABC's crusading post-Virginia Tech, check the April 20 NewsBusters item, “Disappointment at ABC News: 'Politicians and Gun Control: Why Aren’t They Outraged?'” And from April 17, “Nets Blame Virginia's 'Lax' Gun Laws, Gibson and Couric Press Bush on Gun Control.”

Anchor Dan Harris set up the April 22 World News Sunday story:


“With Virginia Tech on everyone's mind, we're going to take A Closer Look tonight at the aftermath of another school massacre, one that changed the lives and changed the law across Great Britain. Eleven years ago, in a small town in Scotland, a man killed 15 elementary students, a crime that Britain vowed would never happen again and since that day has not. ABC's David Wright reports on the lessons of Dunblane.”

David Wright began, from Scotland: “March 13th, 1996, three years before Columbine, this tiny town faced the news every community dreads -- a rampage at an elementary school. Most of the victims, like Sophie North, were just 5 years old.”

Mick North, victim's father: “She would be 16-1/2 now, a young woman causing me no end of problems, no doubt, but problems that I would have loved to have had.”

Wright: “Same age as some of those kids at Virginia Tech.”

North: “Probably just about, yes.”

Wright: “Because of Dunblane, 16 kids will never go to college. The gunman, a former scoutmaster named Thomas Hamilton, killed their teacher, too, before taking his own life. In three minutes time, he fired 105 bullets. Had he arrived at the school during morning assembly as he had planned, the death toll would have been even higher. All of Britain was shocked by Dunblane, even more so because the guns used in the rampage were legally purchased. And as a direct result of what happened here, this country decided to ban virtually all handguns.”

Tony Blair in 1997: “They have done enormous carnage often to wholly innocent civilians, including children. The sooner Britain gets a lead in this, the better. It's the right and civilized things to do.”

Wright: “It helped bring Tony Blair to power. His party made banning handguns a campaign issue.”

Ann Pearston, gun control activist: “We just said after Dunblane that never again was someone going to walk into a school and massacre children.”

Wright: “They never have, not in Britain. Gun crime has risen here during the past decade. But Britain has never again had a school shooting.”

Pearston: “What ordinary people have got to do in the United States, if they really care about what happened at Virginia Tech, is to make the banning of firearms in the United States an election issue.”

North: “Sadly, I won't hold my breath.”

Wright: “Sophie North's father is well aware that the handgun debate is a sacred cow in the U.S., in part because of the Second Amendment.”

North: “Nothing happened after Columbine. Nothing happened after Nickel Mines in the Amish community. After a few weeks, nothing will happen after Virginia Tech. Even the death of 32 people may not be enough to build up the necessary momentum.”

Wright concluded: “Over here, they're watching in horror and sympathy. David Wright, ABC News, Dunblane.”

http://newsbusters.org/node/12230

Let me see. I was referring to Cho's mental state. I asked if RSR wanted to discuss it. Then I read, quoted, my query and then this cut, paste and spray.

Conclusion - waste of bandwith and time bothering in this thread with RSR.

 

[Superlative]

Let me see. I was referring to Cho's mental state. I asked if RSR wanted to discuss it. Then I read, quoted, my query and then this cut, paste and spray.

Conclusion - waste of bandwith and time bothering in this thread with RSR.

Its nothing new.

and its not going to change.

 

[Diuretic]

Its nothing new.

and its not going to change.

True. And I have to admit the fun dries up when you realise what's happening. It's like punching out a drunk, easy but dishonourable.

 

[Superlative]

True. And I have to admit the fun dries up when you realise what's happening. It's like punching out a drunk, easy but dishonourable.

Everyone should ignore his cut and post baloney.

He throws the labels around just to get people to talk to him, otherwise no one would.

 

[Diuretic]

Everyone should ignore his cut and post baloney.

He throws the labels around just to get people to talk to him, otherwise no one would.

I suppose since I've only been back a little while my tolerance level is still reasonable. But I'll discuss anything with anyone who's prepared to put up with me. Hear that RSR? Exchanging ideas and opinions is more fun than chucking insults at each other.

Fuck it, this damn liberal tolerance undermines my nasty side every bloody time.

 

[myth]

Let me get this straight .... you pop into a thread, start insulting; yet, you don't even know what's readily available information on just about any political message board or news site?


Sorry...sincerely...I didn't mean to insult anyone. How else is a new person to get into a thread but to just pop in? But, I can take any viewpoint negative about our country...just so long as it's from someone who actually lives in our country. That was the only person I may have actually "insulted." Kiss, kiss...make up? Thanks!

 

[Diuretic]

Let me get this straight .... you pop into a thread, start insulting; yet, you don't even know what's readily available information on just about any political message board or news site?


Sorry...sincerely...I didn't mean to insult anyone. How else is a new person to get into a thread but to just pop in? But, I can take any viewpoint negative about our country...just so long as it's from someone who actually lives in our country. That was the only person I may have actually "insulted." Kiss, kiss...make up? Thanks!

Hey lightweight, be careful. Here you can kiss my arse

Oh a free clue - get a sense of humour - or if you like you can bird-dog me and I'll show you how it's done.

Ready?

 

[myth]

Yeah, babe...show me the fucking ropes!!! Thanks in advance...any time someone can impart wisdom to me...I'm more than willing to at least listen!

 

[myth]

And you most likely wouldn't like my sense of humour...it's quite wicked. (lol!!)

 

[Annie]

Yeah, babe...show me the fucking ropes!!! Thanks in advance...any time someone can impart wisdom to me...I'm more than willing to at least listen!

You are very different than Spikes. While he rarely responded to others' posts, when he did, it was enlightening.

 

[Dr Grump]

But, I can take any viewpoint negative about our country...just so long as it's from someone who actually lives in our country. Ts!

Why? In that case please don't tell us your views on Iran, N Korean, Iraq or Afghanistan. Thank you in advance..

 

[myth]

Of course I am very different from Spikes...but then, I am still alive. I didn't stick a needle in my arm and kill myself like he did. Yes, what a waste...he did have so much more to offer to the world than all of us combined. Still...he's dead. Personally, I don't think my posts are any worse or better than any of the other blathering's I've read here regarding this subject. The fact is, some deranged 23 year old decided to take the fate of 32 (mostly) students into his own hands...was is inspired by liberalism or simply because he was a crazy son of a bitch? Does it really matter???...the fact reamains that these people are dead. The only solution I know of is to post metal detectors/x-ray machines in all dorms and classrooms (like the court houses have). Let's face it...even Spikes, in all his grandiosity, wouldn't be able to make sense of this. Having spent 24/7 with him for many years, however, he would have, no doubt, come up with something, right or wrong.

 

[Annie]

Of course I am very different from Spikes...but then, I am still alive. I didn't stick a needle in my arm and kill myself like he did. Yes, what a waste...he did have so much more to offer to the world than all of us combined. Still...he's dead. Personally, I don't think my posts are any worse or better than any of the other blathering's I've read here regarding this subject. The fact is, some deranged 23 year old decided to take the fate of 32 (mostly) students into his own hands...was is inspired by liberalism or simply because he was a crazy son of a bitch? Does it really matter???...the fact reamains that these people are dead. The only solution I know of is to post metal detectors/x-ray machines in all dorms and classrooms (like the court houses have). Let's face it...even Spikes, in all his grandiosity, wouldn't be able to make sense of this. Having spent 24/7 with him for many years, however, he would have, no doubt, come up with something, right or wrong.

I'm sorry, really sorry that he chose to take himself out. We are all poorer. On the other hand, I take what he left as a legacy of what could be better. That to me is what he did best.

 

[myth]

When one decides to use drugs...do I have to say which one...that is one's own decision. When one decides to do it in their best friend's house...and the best friend has to haul the body off to the police department, and then to the morgue to identify the body...that really sucks. The one year anniversary of spikes' (aka Matt) death was 3/3...and just like last year, UNC and Duke played b-ball (Matt went to UNC...I went to Duke)...and just like last year...UNC beat Duke...only, he never got to see either of those games. Yeah, it sucks...he was my best friend for over seven years. I had to move from NC to NJ because I was visiting the mausoleum where he is buried 2-3 times a day. He was a good person, but he was also human...like the rest of us...he had those inner demons that he just couldn't keep at bay. The thing he wanted most in life was to play/sing/publish his music...which was bloody awesome...yeah, i miss the hell out of him, and i'm mad at him (well, a little) for doing that. Don't think he did it on purpose...he and i both have great zest for life...sometimes, that gets us all dead and stuff. Anyway, really didn't mean to offend anyone. Sorry...bye...

 

[red states rule]

Let me see. I was referring to Cho's mental state. I asked if RSR wanted to discuss it. Then I read, quoted, my query and then this cut, paste and spray.

Conclusion - waste of bandwith and time bothering in this thread with RSR.

I am pointing out the liberal media and the anti gun reporting

 

[red states rule]

Its nothing new.

and its not going to change.

My pointing out the bias slant of the MSM?

True

 

[red states rule]

I suppose since I've only been back a little while my tolerance level is still reasonable. But I'll discuss anything with anyone who's prepared to put up with me. Hear that RSR? Exchanging ideas and opinions is more fun than chucking insults at each other.

Fuck it, this damn liberal tolerance undermines my nasty side every bloody time.

What liberal tolerance?

Libs are tolerant only with people who agree with them