Did I miss something?

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    With all the talk of reducing the federal budget, it seems to me that a really good way the the government could save a few billion $$ is by requiring that Medicare recipients pay a bulk discount price for pharmacueticals. The government could save a lot in medicare payments.

    This issue seems to have fallen by the wayside. Last I heard Obama had made a deal with the devil and given in to the pharmacuetical companies in order to get their support for healthcare reform.

    Maybe I missed something....

    I seems to me that conservatives should whole heartedly agree that a basic principal of free market economics is that when you purchase something in bulk you should get it at a discounted rate.

    Why hasn't this issue been resurrected in these budget talks?

    Because it was a 'Liberal' cause?
     
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    Because Bush was deep in the bed of pharma companies in 2003...

    And Obama etal are deep in that bed in 2011. We can't let the market get in the way of a perfectly good pharma company bailout!
     
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    Bush put in the no bargaining on drug prices into medicare part D aka the pill bill.
     
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    Both of you are right. Pharma should not gouge American Citizens and let other nations get the same products for next to nothing.

    This is what all those cries of "Socialized Medicine" wrought back in the Health Care reform debate. Obama and the Dems in Congress negotiated with themselves all the way to a shitty reform.

    But the Conservatives helped make it happen... they scared enough Dems in the House(mostly Dems from Conservative Districts) into never having enough votes for a real bill.

    Congratulations... You found one area where I despise my own party. They should have hardlined it with reconciliation from the very beginning with a solid Public Option and stopped the ass kissing of Pharma, Med/Tech and all the rest. They should have known that No Republican was going to vote for it anyway.
     
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    I really think that this is a issue where conservatives and liberals could unite. Conservatives to help get a balanced budget amd because bulk discounting is a fundamental of free market.

    Liberals becuase they want to lower costs to seniors.

    Both complain that government is controlled by big business.

    If there was some way to resurrect this and to bring it to the forefront, the politicians could be shamed into changing it.

    It would be a good political exercise for the whole country.

    Liberals & conservatives united and politicians forced to listen to the people.
     
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    In this political environment? I don't see it happening.

    I like your thoughts, but I don't see it.
     
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    Dang Richard, you sure seem to be a nice guy. But you have the same disease with this issue that the president has. And that's believing that the GOP wants to do something about it. They would love to see it fail.

    Haven't you realized that they don't want to get along with us?
     
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    My position exactly, it makes me tight jawed just to think about it.
     
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    Yeah, you missed something, it's called the profit motive. If big pharma had a bulk discount price to M&M, their revenues would be significantly reduced. They have a 5 year period of patent rights before generic brands of the drug can be sold cheaper, they gotta make their money in those 1st 5 years to pay for the R&D of that drug plus the other 999 failures until they got it right.

    You do realize what'll happen if you forced this bulk rate, right? Sayonara to high tech jobs, with an impact on the number and quality of new drugs hitting the market in the future.
     
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    Once again... why is only us that pays for those R&D costs? Make the rest of the world help too. But you like Corporate Socialism, don't you?
     

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