DHS Gives $12k bonus to Companies That Hire Aliens. WTF?

JimBowie1958

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"The U.S. Census Bureau reported today that 74 percent of those who have a bachelor's degree in science, technology, engineering and math — commonly referred to as STEM — are not employed in STEM occupations. In addition, men continue to be overrepresented in STEM, especially in computer and engineering occupations. About 86 percent of engineers and 74 percent of computer professionals are men."

"STEM graduates have relatively low unemployment, however these graduates are not necessarily employed in STEM occupations," said Liana Christin Landivar, a sociologist in the Census Bureau's Industry and Occupation Statistics Branch."

"According to new statistics from the 2012 American Community Survey, engineering and computer, math and statistics majors had the largest share of graduates going into a STEM field with about half employed in a STEM occupation. Science majors had fewer of their graduates employed in STEM. About 26 percent of physical science majors; 15 percent of biological, environmental and agricultural sciences majors; 10 percent of psychology majors; and 7 percent of social science majors were employed in STEM."
Majority of STEM College Graduates Do Not Work in STEM Occupations


"The Department of Homeland Security is readying a plan to expand a program that pays U.S. employers to hire foreign STEM students taught in America, a move that could end up punishing American college grads and even the elderly, according to an immigration think tank."

"In pushing to allow more foreign students into the so-called "optional practical training program," DHS said that it will help businesses and colleges by keeping those foreign students in the U.S. following their American-taught science, technology, engineering, and math, or STEM, curriculum."

"But the Center for Immigration Studies said it will punish American STEM students competing for those same jobs. And, they added, in adjusting how the foreign students are categorized as employees, they get out of paying payroll taxes used to help fund programs like Social Security and Medicare."


Feds dangle $12,000 bonus to firms that hire foreign students


This is an example of the Professional Political Class managing our nation into bad economic times.

I personally know several STEM graduates who still cannot find jobs in their career fields after two or more years of job searching. But our government no longer works for us, it worls for Microsoft, IBM, Apple, GE, etc and so the Feds are loading these guys up with all the H1-Bs, black market ilelgals and now giving $12k bonuses to hire alien STEM graduates.

And this is not just a Democrfat administration problem, as the GOP advocates the same type of policies.

Our nation has been taken over by a Corporate Crony Network of CEOs who spin a picture of high demand for these graduates while the truth is that for each job thousands of STEM grads apply.

STEM Grads Are at a Loss

STEM labor shortages?: Microsoft report distorts reality about computing occupations

U.S. pushes for more scientists, but the jobs aren’t there

The Myth of the Science and Engineering Shortage

America Has More Trained STEM Graduates than STEM Job Openings
 
"But the Center for Immigration Studies said it will punish American STEM students competing for those same jobs. And, they added, in adjusting how the foreign students are categorized as employees, they get out of paying payroll taxes used to help fund programs like Social Security and Medicare."
Anything from the Washington Examiner and CIS you know is gross distortion to the point of being a lie.

To get that "$12,000 bonus" from the 12.4% saved payroll taxes these new graduates would have to have a STARTING salary of $100,000.00. Now remember the Right has been telling us that the reason capitalistic businesses want foreign workers is because they will work for less money than Americans, but to get that phony $12,000 bonus these capitalists would have to pay these foreigners around double the starting salary of an American. To swallow the OP's bullshit you have to be gullible enough to believe capitalists will pay an extra $50,000 to save $12,000. :cuckoo:
 
"But the Center for Immigration Studies said it will punish American STEM students competing for those same jobs. And, they added, in adjusting how the foreign students are categorized as employees, they get out of paying payroll taxes used to help fund programs like Social Security and Medicare."
Anything from the Washington Examiner and CIS you know is gross distortion to the point of being a lie.

To get that "$12,000 bonus" from the 12.4% saved payroll taxes these new graduates would have to have a STARTING salary of $100,000.00. Now remember the Right has been telling us that the reason capitalistic businesses want foreign workers is because they will work for less money than Americans, but to get that phony $12,000 bonus these capitalists would have to pay these foreigners around double the starting salary of an American. To swallow the OP's bullshit you have to be gullible enough to believe capitalists will pay an extra $50,000 to save $12,000. :cuckoo:

It really doesnt matter what the details are while we have American citizens that are top STEM graduates going unemployedd or employed outside their field, and we have veterans who could use a little training to get on their feet with an entry level job.

I dont care if the bonus is for million dollar positions, they should always offer it to Americans first.
 
"But the Center for Immigration Studies said it will punish American STEM students competing for those same jobs. And, they added, in adjusting how the foreign students are categorized as employees, they get out of paying payroll taxes used to help fund programs like Social Security and Medicare."
Anything from the Washington Examiner and CIS you know is gross distortion to the point of being a lie.

To get that "$12,000 bonus" from the 12.4% saved payroll taxes these new graduates would have to have a STARTING salary of $100,000.00. Now remember the Right has been telling us that the reason capitalistic businesses want foreign workers is because they will work for less money than Americans, but to get that phony $12,000 bonus these capitalists would have to pay these foreigners around double the starting salary of an American. To swallow the OP's bullshit you have to be gullible enough to believe capitalists will pay an extra $50,000 to save $12,000. :cuckoo:

It really doesnt matter what the details are while we have American citizens that are top STEM graduates going unemployedd or employed outside their field, and we have veterans who could use a little training to get on their feet with an entry level job.

I dont care if the bonus is for million dollar positions, they should always offer it to Americans first.
There is no "bonus," as you well know. Your source made a SUCKER out of you, and if they were "top STEM graduates" they would have a job.
 
There is no "bonus," as you well know. Your source made a SUCKER out of you, and if they were "top STEM graduates" they would have a job.

The Washington Examiner is hardly the only site that carried the story.

DHS Incentivizes Employers to Hire Alien College Grads Over Native Grads


Here we have a DHS advocate for Illegal Aliens listed.
DHS Illegal Alien Advocate Office Still Open, Featured at ICE Employee Event - Judicial Watch

Here illegal aliens will earned income tax credits.
‘Amnesty Bonuses’ in Tax Code: Illegal Immigrants to Receive Earned Income Tax Credit

It is a proposal and not law just yet, but in view of the other things done in our government to advance aliens, legal and illegal, I hardly see what is so unbelievable about it.

IT does seem to put a burr up your ass though, why is that? You hire foreign workers? You force the previous Americans to train these aliens?
 
There is no "bonus," as you well know. Your source made a SUCKER out of you, and if they were "top STEM graduates" they would have a job.

The Washington Examiner is hardly the only site that carried the story.

DHS Incentivizes Employers to Hire Alien College Grads Over Native Grads


Here we have a DHS advocate for Illegal Aliens listed.
DHS Illegal Alien Advocate Office Still Open, Featured at ICE Employee Event - Judicial Watch

Here illegal aliens will earned income tax credits.
‘Amnesty Bonuses’ in Tax Code: Illegal Immigrants to Receive Earned Income Tax Credit

It is a proposal and not law just yet, but in view of the other things done in our government to advance aliens, legal and illegal, I hardly see what is so unbelievable about it.

IT does seem to put a burr up your ass though, why is that? You hire foreign workers? You force the previous Americans to train these aliens?
Each one less credible than the other. It is a well known fact that Right-wing sources lie in packs, each citing the other. There is no $12,000 bonus.
 

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