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    Since World War II, mainstream conservatives have opposed every expansion of personal liberty in the United States.



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    Why do conservatives hate freedom? The question may be startling. After all, don’t conservatives claim they are protecting liberty in America against liberal statism, which they compare to communism or fascism? But the conservative idea of “freedom” is a very peculiar one, which excludes virtually every kind of liberty that ordinary Americans take for granted.

    I distinguish conservatives from libertarians, who, on issues of personal liberty, tend to side with liberals. Since World War II, mainstream conservatives have opposed every expansion of personal liberty in the United States.
    During the civil rights era, the leading conservative politician, Barry Goldwater, and the leading conservative intellectual, William F. Buckley Jr., along with most of their followers opposed federal laws banning racial discrimination. To their credit, they later admitted they had been mistaken; indeed, both Buckley and Goldwater supported gay rights late in their careers. But at the time that conservative support for a color-blind society might have made a difference, the leaders of American conservatism sided with the Southern segregationists. They claimed they did so, not because of racial prejudice, but because they feared federal tyranny — a weaselly stance that, in practice, made them side with white supremacist tyranny at the state level. If they had truly believed in their own propaganda about federalism, conservatives could have opposed federal civil rights legislation while campaigning for civil rights laws at the state level. They didn’t.

    The civil rights revolution was followed by the sexual revolution. Here again, conservatives, as distinct from libertarians, were on the side of government repression. The mainstream conservative movement opposed the legalization of contraceptives and abortion. In this case, unlike in the case of civil rights, the American right did not even pretend to have constitutional reasons for opposing Supreme Court decisions like Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965 (which struck down state bans on the use of contraception, including by married couples) or Roe v. Wade in 1973 (which struck down state bans on most abortion). The mainstream right simply argued that conservative Christian beliefs about sexual morality should be incorporated into law. In other words, the very conservatives warning us about the dangers of “mobocracy” when it came to the welfare state had no objection to using the power of government to force their fellow citizens to live their private lives according to the teachings of Thomas Aquinas or the Book of Leviticus, as interpreted by semi-literate Southern Protestant preachers.

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    So, liberals think liberty equates to abortion on demand? Anything else, like eating what we want without being taxed, choosing our own healthcare (or not), using our choice of lightbulb, buying toilets that actually flush, using OTC asthma inhalers and many other things that affect our every day life don't count as liberty and freedom being taken away? Some laws are outrageous. No lemonade stands. No smoking in public places, even if the OWNER of the establishment wants it allowed. There are so many laws that libs push because they want everyone to live according to their beliefs.
     
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    -Conservatives claim to be freedom lovers, but their actions put the lie to their words.
    -Conservatives believe freedom is; we're free to be conservative clones like them.
    -Conservatives want to poke their noses into our bedrooms.
    -Conservatives are in our wife's and daughters wombs.
    -Conservatives are authoritarians.
    -Conservatives want to take away our right to vote.
    -Conservatives tell us corporations are people.
    -Conservatives are for violence against women.
     
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    what a load of CRAP..

    that's all
     
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    Really, how so?
     

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