Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

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    I quoted article 1 for him..... he kept ranting and raving. :cuckoo:
     
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    Thank you. You're absolutely correct. The foundering fathers understood there would be a need for a mechanism for charging and removing a president for crimes. With the constitutional powers and responsibilities of the president, it would be almost impossible to charge and try him in a criminal court. Trump's lawyer has already brought up one possible barrier and there would be many more.

    Mueller, as special council could lay the charges before the House. The Judiciary Committee would considered the charges then present them to the members. If the members felt the charges had merit they would vote for a bill of impeachment. The bill would then be sent to the Senate for trial.

    While impeachment looks and feels a whole lot like a legal or judicial process, in practice impeachment is dominated by politics from start to finish. Legal technicalities, emotion appeals, and issues totally unrelated to the charges can be introduced. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides over the trial but his position is far different than criminal judges. He generally makes only procedural rulings and any of his rulings can be overridden by the Senators. If 67 Senators for whatever reason decide the president is guilty, he's toast and there is no appeal.
     
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    And yet you can not link nor quote any such text go figure.
     
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    Nothing you quoted said ANYTHING about Nixon firing anyone retard. I mean you insist you are a lawyer yet can not even get the most basic principles of the law down.
     
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    Oh, good. You have found grounds for impeachment. So they need to stop the investigations and get on with the court proceedings. And so when is the next hearing to impeach the President? I'm glad that you have found evidence. That there has been a lot of tax dollars being spent on these investigations. OOOOoo I'm dying to sees the President's impeachment trial. And so, i'm waiting....


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    Because there is much much more to find out...a good poker player does not show his hand.

    This investigation on the Russians, interference in our election and Social Media, and Russian money laundering is bigger than President Trump... it does not end with Trump.., he's a byproduct imo, and maybe even unwittingly....just don't know yet
     
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    Or perhaps because there is nowhere enough to convince congress to impeach trump. Were articles of impeachment tabled this week?

    Proposal to impeach Trump tabled in the House - CNNPolitics
     
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    do you really believe that when the head of the house investigatory committee engages in a bizarre surreptitious effort to create evidence that they're on the up and up?
     
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    that's premature. although....

    The case for normalizing impeachment
     
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    Any talk about impeachment, at least at this point, is premature, though as said previously. an impeachment is a political process and not one held to a criminal standard by the criminal Justice System imo....

    It took 2 yrs investigating before Nixon drafted Articles of Impeachment were done...

    It took 4 yrs of investigations with kenneth Starr, before Clinton was impeached.

    So, this is truly, at a beginning stage and there are already 4 felony indictments/ guilty pleas.

    Tricky Dick, and Hillary could end up looking like Saints when this is said and done, or....maybe not? :p
     
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