Democrats seem to be the faster shrinking party.

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    I wanted to make this a thread because it seems like either I'm missing something or when I bring it up it's glossed over.

    Here are the numbers from 2008:

    Barrack Obama/Joseph Biden (Democrat) 69,456,897 votes (52.9%)
    John McCain/Sarah Palin (Republican) 59,934,814 votes (45.7%)


    Now, let’s look at 2012 numbers:

    Obama/Biden Popular vote (Democrat) 65,621,369 (51.0%)
    Mitt/Ryan Popular vote (Republican) 60,875,399 (47.3%)


    Now, Republicans made up around 2% from 2008 in the total vote, meaning they did better in 2012 than 2008. In all about 3-4 million less votes were cast, all were lost by Democrats… Meaning currently Democrats are the fastest shrinking party by votes in America. This is a big deal because with population growth both parties should be growing by million, not stagnating or losing voters by the millions.


    For context:

    1996 total vote = about 95 million
    United States presidential election, 1996 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    2000 total vote = about 102 million United States presidential election, 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    2004 total vote = about 121 million United States presidential election, 2004 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    2008 total vote = about 129 million United States presidential election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    2012 total vote = about 126 million United States presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Again, 2012 is the first time in this table that the vote count shrunk, and it was all Democrats loss, 100%.
     
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    Im not sure id say it's all Democrat loss. but you do make a good point.

    Id be curious to see the actual registration counts. Though I suppose they could be padded with dead people.
     
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    I was going off votes, not people who sign up for the party. In this case Reps gained voters over 2008, very very slight. Dems lost 3-4 million. No matter how someone tries to spin it, less votes were cast for Dems than 4 years ago, by millions, more were cast for Republicans than 4 years ago. Just interesting.
     
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    and you ARE missing something. I showed you in the other thread. Ignore it all you want.
     
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    Ok, can you post it here? I have talked about this for a while now, I'm not avoiding anything.
     
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    I already posted it. You already read it. What's the point?
    Rassmussen indicates one thing - every other poll on the planet indicates the opposite.

    You're also doing an apples to oranges thing.

    But whatever, you believe what you want to believe.
     
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    Ok... so I didn't read it and don’t have the page up anymore... Calm down. All I did was look at votes cast, not polling, not opinion, not I think, though, like or want... I went off 100% votes cast. You can be a registered Democrats and vote for a Republican, or the other way around.
     
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    Clearly, Americans were so riled up after what Bush and the Republicans did, they voted FOR Obama as much as they did AGAINST the Republicans.

    This time, with Republicans armed with over a billion dollars coming mostly from a few multi billionaires, Republican's voter suppression, which was clearly on display in Penn, Florida, Ohio, among other states, and a white Republican base motivated by race, every Republican possible got out to vote. And from the number of felonies Republican surrogates were charged with, there were more Republican votes than Republicans.

    Obama still won by millions. Too many to "fake". And Romney received 47% of the vote. His mistake was thinking the country is 53% white, uneducated and racist.
     
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    Nope. Democrats also tend to go with the young vote and more young people came out in 08 than 12. Thats why there is a drop. If the youth came out every election, the democrats would never lose.
     
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    "His mistake was thinking the country is 53% white, uneducated and racist."

    While, in reality, 53% of the population is black, hispanics, uneducated and racist.
     

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