Democrats give up on millionaire surtax

[Trajan]

wow. they were winning the propaganda war, I am not sure what pushed it over the edge.

I suspect that dems behind the scenes told obama that the XL Pipeline issue, in the bill, would be hard to combat even with a pliant media. That combined with the fact that Ried told nancy to renege on the bi-partisan agreement they reached in the House for the 2012 Budget bill ( omnibus) which would have been hard to defend as it would have pushed them to a shutdown, no way to spin that.



Democrats give up on millionaire surtax


WASHINGTON - Democrats backed away from their demand for higher taxes on millionaires as part of legislation to extend Social Security tax cuts for most Americans on Wednesday as Congress struggled to clear critical year-end bills without triggering a partial government shutdown.

Republicans, too, signaled an eagerness to avoid gridlock and adjourn for the holidays. With a bipartisan $1 trillion funding bill blocked at the last minute by Democrats, GOP lawmakers and aides floated the possibility of a backup measure to run the government for as long as two months after the money runs out Friday at midnight.

In a written statement late Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration objected to several environmental, financial and other provisions in the mammoth spending bill and said Congress should approve a short-term spending measure to avoid a federal shutdown and give lawmakers time to iron out their final disputes.

With time beginning to run short, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., met with President Barack Obama at the White House, then returned to the Capitol and sat down with the two top Republicans in Congress, Speaker John Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

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Democrats give up on millionaire surtax - CBS News

 

[waltky]

Shutdown gonna be avoided by extendin' the rich folks tax cuts...

Congress nears deals to avoid shutdown, extend tax cut
15 Dec.`11 WASHINGTON – Congress has reached an agreement to fund the federal government through Sept. 30 of next year — avoiding a government shutdown at midnight tonight — and was considering a deal for a short-term extension of a payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits to American workers.

While a final deal on the payroll package continued to elude negotiators on Thursday, congressional leaders struck a less partisan tone than in days before and expressed optimism that a deal could be reached. "We hope that we can come up with something that would get us out of here at a reasonable time in the next few days," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. His counterpart, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., agreed. "We're confident and optimistic we'll be able to resolve both on a bipartisan basis," he said. The spending package bundles together nine appropriations bills totaling $915 billion and funds the government through the end of the fiscal year.

Lawmakers agreed to the measure, but it was delayed due to White House objections to two provisions in the bill: to reinstate travel restrictions to Cuba that President Obama has eased, and funding cuts to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, undercutting the Obama administration's efforts to increase oversight of Wall Street. The negotiations on a bill to extend the Social Security payroll tax cut and federal unemployment benefits focus on two points of contention between the parties over the creation of an oil pipeline from Canada to Texas and how to pay for the estimated $202 billion cost to extend the tax cut from 6.2% to 4.2% for 160 million Americans, as well as extend federal unemployment benefits for one year.

Both are set to expire Dec. 31. As of late Thursday, congressional leaders were discussing a short-term $40 billion deal for a two-month extension of the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits in order to buy Congress more time to negotiate how to pay for the measures through the end of 2012. Talks are focused in the Senate because House Republicans have already approved their bill, which expedites the Keystone XL oil pipeline and creates approximately 20,000 new jobs, according to GOP estimates. Obama and congressional Democrats say the project needs more time for environmental review, but Republicans were holding their ground to include it in the final bill. "It's the most important private-sector job creating project in America and it's ready to go," McConnell said.

Democrats have abandoned their efforts to include a tax increase for Americans earning more than $1 million annually. Pelosi said Democrats will try again next year. "This is not the last bill that will ever be passed," she said. House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said that if Congress can approve legislation to fund the government, he would send House lawmakers home until the Senate can deliver a payroll tax cut package that can pass the House and be signed by the president. "There's no reason for House members to sit around here," Boehner said, pledging to call lawmakers back to Washington to vote on a final bill if necessary. "If the Senate acts, I'm committed to bringing the House back, and we can do it within 24 hours," he said.

Source

 

[Wry Catcher]

wow. they were winning the propaganda war, I am not sure what pushed it over the edge.

I suspect that dems behind the scenes told obama that the XL Pipeline issue, in the bill, would be hard to combat even with a pliant media. That combined with the fact that Ried told nancy to renege on the bi-partisan agreement they reached in the House for the 2012 Budget bill ( omnibus) which would have been hard to defend as it would have pushed them to a shutdown, no way to spin that.



Democrats give up on millionaire surtax


WASHINGTON - Democrats backed away from their demand for higher taxes on millionaires as part of legislation to extend Social Security tax cuts for most Americans on Wednesday as Congress struggled to clear critical year-end bills without triggering a partial government shutdown.

Republicans, too, signaled an eagerness to avoid gridlock and adjourn for the holidays. With a bipartisan $1 trillion funding bill blocked at the last minute by Democrats, GOP lawmakers and aides floated the possibility of a backup measure to run the government for as long as two months after the money runs out Friday at midnight.

In a written statement late Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration objected to several environmental, financial and other provisions in the mammoth spending bill and said Congress should approve a short-term spending measure to avoid a federal shutdown and give lawmakers time to iron out their final disputes.

With time beginning to run short, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., met with President Barack Obama at the White House, then returned to the Capitol and sat down with the two top Republicans in Congress, Speaker John Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

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Democrats give up on millionaire surtax - CBS News

Not in California. The very wealthy may have 'convinced' The Congress - or at least the leadership which they appear to own - to protect their fortunes from taxes, but here in California the issue is still open to debate. Public sentiment supports a surtax on the very wealthy and, as many of you who live in the fly-over states know, California sets future trends for our nation.

 

[Dr.House]

wow. they were winning the propaganda war, I am not sure what pushed it over the edge.

I suspect that dems behind the scenes told obama that the XL Pipeline issue, in the bill, would be hard to combat even with a pliant media. That combined with the fact that Ried told nancy to renege on the bi-partisan agreement they reached in the House for the 2012 Budget bill ( omnibus) which would have been hard to defend as it would have pushed them to a shutdown, no way to spin that.



Democrats give up on millionaire surtax


WASHINGTON - Democrats backed away from their demand for higher taxes on millionaires as part of legislation to extend Social Security tax cuts for most Americans on Wednesday as Congress struggled to clear critical year-end bills without triggering a partial government shutdown.

Republicans, too, signaled an eagerness to avoid gridlock and adjourn for the holidays. With a bipartisan $1 trillion funding bill blocked at the last minute by Democrats, GOP lawmakers and aides floated the possibility of a backup measure to run the government for as long as two months after the money runs out Friday at midnight.

In a written statement late Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration objected to several environmental, financial and other provisions in the mammoth spending bill and said Congress should approve a short-term spending measure to avoid a federal shutdown and give lawmakers time to iron out their final disputes.

With time beginning to run short, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., met with President Barack Obama at the White House, then returned to the Capitol and sat down with the two top Republicans in Congress, Speaker John Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

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Democrats give up on millionaire surtax - CBS News

Wow... That's not gonna sit well with the far-left wingnut base...

Possible that the unions have given some "gentle persuasion", as they were pretty pro-pipeline....

 

[Cowman]

Because most of the democrats are pussies.

 

[Avatar4321]

They weren't winning.

 

[whitehall]

If democrats aren't using the phony tax cuts as a reason to enact tax increases what's the point? Studies show that the alleged tax cuts in question would only put a couple of bucks in the pockets of the middle class and would not effect the unemployed that don't contribute to Social Security. I guess it's about a phony issue to try to force a showdown on a government shutdown. Democrats always have the advantage with media support in this type of issue..

 

[Trajan]

wow. they were winning the propaganda war, I am not sure what pushed it over the edge.

I suspect that dems behind the scenes told obama that the XL Pipeline issue, in the bill, would be hard to combat even with a pliant media. That combined with the fact that Ried told nancy to renege on the bi-partisan agreement they reached in the House for the 2012 Budget bill ( omnibus) which would have been hard to defend as it would have pushed them to a shutdown, no way to spin that.



Democrats give up on millionaire surtax


WASHINGTON - Democrats backed away from their demand for higher taxes on millionaires as part of legislation to extend Social Security tax cuts for most Americans on Wednesday as Congress struggled to clear critical year-end bills without triggering a partial government shutdown.

Republicans, too, signaled an eagerness to avoid gridlock and adjourn for the holidays. With a bipartisan $1 trillion funding bill blocked at the last minute by Democrats, GOP lawmakers and aides floated the possibility of a backup measure to run the government for as long as two months after the money runs out Friday at midnight.

In a written statement late Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration objected to several environmental, financial and other provisions in the mammoth spending bill and said Congress should approve a short-term spending measure to avoid a federal shutdown and give lawmakers time to iron out their final disputes.

With time beginning to run short, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., met with President Barack Obama at the White House, then returned to the Capitol and sat down with the two top Republicans in Congress, Speaker John Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

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Democrats give up on millionaire surtax - CBS News

Not in California. The very wealthy may have 'convinced' The Congress - or at least the leadership which they appear to own - to protect their fortunes from taxes, but here in California the issue is still open to debate. Public sentiment supports a surtax on the very wealthy and, as many of you who live in the fly-over states know, California sets future trends for our nation.

actually sparky, Illinois and NYC enacted millionaire tax surcharges too....guess what happened on the way to the tax mint?

lets see if we set a future trend by building a 'high speed' rail to nowhere, at $100 Billion and a completion date of 2033. I don't think anyone is stupid enough but us to take that on.....

 

[Trajan]

wow. they were winning the propaganda war, I am not sure what pushed it over the edge.

I suspect that dems behind the scenes told obama that the XL Pipeline issue, in the bill, would be hard to combat even with a pliant media. That combined with the fact that Ried told nancy to renege on the bi-partisan agreement they reached in the House for the 2012 Budget bill ( omnibus) which would have been hard to defend as it would have pushed them to a shutdown, no way to spin that.



Democrats give up on millionaire surtax


WASHINGTON - Democrats backed away from their demand for higher taxes on millionaires as part of legislation to extend Social Security tax cuts for most Americans on Wednesday as Congress struggled to clear critical year-end bills without triggering a partial government shutdown.

Republicans, too, signaled an eagerness to avoid gridlock and adjourn for the holidays. With a bipartisan $1 trillion funding bill blocked at the last minute by Democrats, GOP lawmakers and aides floated the possibility of a backup measure to run the government for as long as two months after the money runs out Friday at midnight.

In a written statement late Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration objected to several environmental, financial and other provisions in the mammoth spending bill and said Congress should approve a short-term spending measure to avoid a federal shutdown and give lawmakers time to iron out their final disputes.

With time beginning to run short, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., met with President Barack Obama at the White House, then returned to the Capitol and sat down with the two top Republicans in Congress, Speaker John Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

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Democrats give up on millionaire surtax - CBS News

Wow... That's not gonna sit well with the far-left wingnut base...

Possible that the unions have given some "gentle persuasion", as they were pretty pro-pipeline....

his lack of exec. and legislative experience catches up to him once again. Giving campaign speeches while at the same time trying to duck any leadership/ responsibilities for what he fronts, has it pitfalls.

 

[GHook93]

wow. they were winning the propaganda war, I am not sure what pushed it over the edge.

I suspect that dems behind the scenes told obama that the XL Pipeline issue, in the bill, would be hard to combat even with a pliant media. That combined with the fact that Ried told nancy to renege on the bi-partisan agreement they reached in the House for the 2012 Budget bill ( omnibus) which would have been hard to defend as it would have pushed them to a shutdown, no way to spin that.



Democrats give up on millionaire surtax


WASHINGTON - Democrats backed away from their demand for higher taxes on millionaires as part of legislation to extend Social Security tax cuts for most Americans on Wednesday as Congress struggled to clear critical year-end bills without triggering a partial government shutdown.

Republicans, too, signaled an eagerness to avoid gridlock and adjourn for the holidays. With a bipartisan $1 trillion funding bill blocked at the last minute by Democrats, GOP lawmakers and aides floated the possibility of a backup measure to run the government for as long as two months after the money runs out Friday at midnight.

In a written statement late Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration objected to several environmental, financial and other provisions in the mammoth spending bill and said Congress should approve a short-term spending measure to avoid a federal shutdown and give lawmakers time to iron out their final disputes.

With time beginning to run short, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., met with President Barack Obama at the White House, then returned to the Capitol and sat down with the two top Republicans in Congress, Speaker John Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

more at-
Democrats give up on millionaire surtax - CBS News

Not in California. The very wealthy may have 'convinced' The Congress - or at least the leadership which they appear to own - to protect their fortunes from taxes, but here in California the issue is still open to debate. Public sentiment supports a surtax on the very wealthy and, as many of you who live in the fly-over states know, California sets future trends for our nation.

LOL with all the businesses and rich people fleeing CA in droves you won't have any businesses or rich people left to tax

 

[taichiliberal]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

 

[Dr.House]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

Dude... What are YOU smokin'?

 

[Avatar4321]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

consistantly getting our way?

If we were getting our way we wouldn't have increased the debt ceiling.
If we were getting our way we would have had real spending cuts.
If we were getting our way Obamacare wouldn't have been forced on the people.
If we were getting our way, our taxes would be seriously cut.
If we were getting our way the President wouldn't be preventing that pipeline and all those jobs from being created.
If we were getting our way the United States would be producing it's own energy instead of relying on hostile dictators.
If we were getting our way, we'd have a balanced budget. Hell, we'd have a budget.
If we were getting our way, these bail outs would have ceased long ago.

Where the hell are we getting our way?

 

[whitehall]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

It's a shame that the republican majority in congress is "getting in the way". Who knows what important issues we would have ended up with during Barry's 2nd two years if he had complete control of the economy? Maybe a "cash for clunkers for computers" or shovel ready jobs without shovels? Barry Hussein actually giggled when he admitted that the shovel ready jobs "weren't really shovel ready". Maybe you libs should quit blaming republicans when you have half of the legislative branch and all of the executive branch to work your socialist magic.

 

[taichiliberal]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

Dude... What are YOU smokin'?

Have you been keeping tabs on what's been taken "off the table" by the Dems in the last 3 years? Hell, they just barely got the watered down version of healthcare reform through.....the Shrub's tax cuts got extended, nuke power plant construction has been given promise to restart, the Patriot Act is still alive and kicking. I could go on, but you get the message, right?

 

[auditor0007]

wow. they were winning the propaganda war, I am not sure what pushed it over the edge.

I suspect that dems behind the scenes told obama that the XL Pipeline issue, in the bill, would be hard to combat even with a pliant media. That combined with the fact that Ried told nancy to renege on the bi-partisan agreement they reached in the House for the 2012 Budget bill ( omnibus) which would have been hard to defend as it would have pushed them to a shutdown, no way to spin that.



Democrats give up on millionaire surtax


WASHINGTON - Democrats backed away from their demand for higher taxes on millionaires as part of legislation to extend Social Security tax cuts for most Americans on Wednesday as Congress struggled to clear critical year-end bills without triggering a partial government shutdown.

Republicans, too, signaled an eagerness to avoid gridlock and adjourn for the holidays. With a bipartisan $1 trillion funding bill blocked at the last minute by Democrats, GOP lawmakers and aides floated the possibility of a backup measure to run the government for as long as two months after the money runs out Friday at midnight.

In a written statement late Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration objected to several environmental, financial and other provisions in the mammoth spending bill and said Congress should approve a short-term spending measure to avoid a federal shutdown and give lawmakers time to iron out their final disputes.

With time beginning to run short, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., met with President Barack Obama at the White House, then returned to the Capitol and sat down with the two top Republicans in Congress, Speaker John Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

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Democrats give up on millionaire surtax - CBS News

Thank goodness they gave up on ending some of the tax cuts for the wealthy. I was so afraid that as soon as they put through any tax increases, those rich people would start firing all of us regular people since they could no longer afford to pay us.

 

[Dr.House]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

Dude... What are YOU smokin'?

Have you been keeping tabs on what's been taken "off the table" by the Dems in the last 3 years? Hell, they just barely got the watered down version of healthcare reform through.....the Shrub's tax cuts got extended, nuke power plant construction has been given promise to restart, the Patriot Act is still alive and kicking. I could go on, but you get the message, right?

LOL... You're bringing up the patriot act while Barry plans on putting Americans in GITMO?

Where's the budget, spanky?

Yuo teh funneh....

 

[taichiliberal]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

consistantly getting our way?

If we were getting our way we wouldn't have increased the debt ceiling.

A GOP strawman and harrassment tactic, as that debt ceiling has previously been lifted when needed without much ado by many a President INCLUDING Republicans.

If we were getting our way we would have had real spending cuts.

The Bush tax cuts were kept intact beyond their sunset agreement.....thus keeping serious revenue from the coffers. Add to that the "real" spending cuts and the people who actually do the work in this country would be busted and disgusted and another DEPRESSION would have hit full on.

If we were getting our way Obamacare wouldn't have been forced on the people.

It STILL isn't no matter how many times you tell that lie. If you don't want ANY health insurance, then you pay a small tax towards the day when YOU WILL NEED MEDICAL CARE BUT CAN'T AFFORD IT AT THE TIME. Other than that, you can choose whatever insurance company you like, or you can opt for a gov't plan (what's affordable to you). This was watered down from the original reform plans...and the GOP is STILL bitching.

If we were getting our way, our taxes would be seriously cut.

How so? Since the GOP wants the major tax cuts for the wealthy to remain intact and not sunset, whom do you think is going to pick up the slack tax wise (as we currently are now)?

If we were getting our way the President wouldn't be preventing that pipeline and all those jobs from being created.

Another lie, as the temporary halt to offshore drilling has been lifted AS ORIGINALLY PROMISED. As for this glorious pipeline....seems folk like YOU have little concern for the states it's designed to go through that you would intrust all construction environmental/ecological impact studies to the people building it. Seems Canada is hated for it's health care, but given a free pass otherwise by the right wing GOP.

If we were getting our way the United States would be producing it's own energy instead of relying on hostile dictators.

Ahh, but the question is HOW...since the right wing GOP just wants to "drill baby drill" DESPITE evidence that such willy nilly attitudes would only produce a decades worth of oil AT BEST from one contested site, and would essentially turn protected wilderness on and off shore into oil rig towns. But hey, better than wind, solar and geo-thermal, right?

If we were getting our way, we'd have a balanced budget. Hell, we'd have a budget.

Really? And how do you figure to "balance" a budget if you continue various military programs that have YET to produce results like "Star Wars"? Or you just have eternal Bush tax cuts for the rich that keeps millions upon millions out of the coffers? Turning people into 75 year old worker bees with no pension, less options due to outsourcing, and no social services to meet the high COLA does NOT create a vibrant economy.
If we were getting our way, these bail outs would have ceased long ago.

Newsflash for you: the bank bailouts were the idea of YOUR BOY BUSH. When Obama came in and put the squeeze on for payback, THE GOP BITCHED! Then they whined when Obama saved the auto industries collective asses.... Hypocrites!
Where the hell are we getting our way?

The Patriot Act is still alive and kicking, nuke power plant construction is being planned. See above for other examples.

 

[taichiliberal]

I wonder what's going to be the final deal the Obama signs off on? And how in the world is the GOP going to blame everything on the Dems when they are consistently getting their way on the important issues?

It's a shame that the republican majority in congress is "getting in the way". Who knows what important issues we would have ended up with during Barry's 2nd two years if he had complete control of the economy? Maybe a "cash for clunkers for computers" or shovel ready jobs without shovels? Barry Hussein actually giggled when he admitted that the shovel ready jobs "weren't really shovel ready". Maybe you libs should quit blaming republicans when you have half of the legislative branch and all of the executive branch to work your socialist magic.

Maybe you should stop blowing smoke and deal with FACTS....like the FACT that "cash for clunkers" was NOT the complete and dismal failure that Limbaugh and Hannity told you it was. Or the FACT that your tin gods in congress and senate BLOCKED AND FILIBUSTERED the President's attempt to get jobs to the people at every turn....or did you forget that the GOP leadership stated that preventing Obama's re-election and NOT governing for the betterment of the people was there sole agenda? But hey, all those rich folk can sleep tight with the Bush Tax cuts going past their sunset agreement...that way they can continue to out source jobs.

Oh, and next time you neocon parrots start squawking about "socialism", maybe you should do a little research about "corporate welfare", or how the military (one big socialist practicing organization) is outsourcing all that work to private contractors ON YOUR TAX DOLLAR.

Learn to deal with ALL the FACTS, toodles. Saves me the time and effort to bring you up to speed.

 

[taichiliberal]

Dude... What are YOU smokin'?

Have you been keeping tabs on what's been taken "off the table" by the Dems in the last 3 years? Hell, they just barely got the watered down version of healthcare reform through.....the Shrub's tax cuts got extended, nuke power plant construction has been given promise to restart, the Patriot Act is still alive and kicking. I could go on, but you get the message, right?

LOL... You're bringing up the patriot act while Barry plans on putting Americans in GITMO?

Where's the budget, spanky?

Yuo teh funneh....

And your too dumb to be believed!

You're making my point, chuckles...because Obama is BUILDING on the very premise that ties the Patriot Act to Gitmo...the very premise jokers like YOU seal clapped for 8 years and defended to the death upon Obama's inauguration.

Seems when the GOP does it, you're okay....if Obama does the same, it's wrong. You're such a dopey ass hypocrit "Dr. House", that you don't even know which way is up. Carry on.