Define: Person

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    Is a 'person' an intelligent, logical human adult? A human with any measure of consciousness (self-awareness)?

    What is a 'person' ? Can non-persons have rights? Can only humans be 'people'?
     
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    Only Humans at the moment are people. And it requires that to be termed a person. Babies are persons as well as unborn babies.
     
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    Yep. Corporations have been deemed to have personage, and thus human rights...such as freedom of speech.

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    So a hypothetical race of intelligent extraterrestrials could never be 'persons'?

    Can non-persons have rights?

    Would a hypothetical deity with human-like thoughts be a 'person'? Would you interact with it as you would a person?
     
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    Person was a word created by humans to describe humans. There's no real reason to look deeper into it based on that fact alone.
     
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    I said at the moment. Things could change. I seriously doubt any animals are likely to be made people though. Extraterrestrials probably.
     
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    What about a dead person?
     
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    You're dodging.

    What is a 'person'? What are the criteria such a race must meet?
     
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    Question has no point. "People" who look for deeper meaning where no deeper meaning belongs are wasting their time. Language was created as a tool by human beings to communicate with one another, and person was a word to describe a human being, a homo sapien, and then philosophy and theology etc. (which obviously came *after said languages before being *written) developed their own spin-offs of the word.

    I would bet a stack...........no..........I'd bet my package, that if I was able to go into a time machine and visit the birthtime of the word person, it was just an empty, simple gesture creasted to say "human."
     
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    We need to have a chat thread about the definition of a word now? Seriously? Definitely a sign that people are trying too damned hard to rationalize and justify themselves.
     

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