Death Of Jesus

[AmericanFirst]

Just celebrated the death of Jesus as our Savior. The date is set by the actual date it occurred. They compute the correct day every year. SO it is not always on the same day since the calendar in use back then was Lunar and ours is not.

celebrate?

Yes. Satan cried like a baby because he knew he was beaten. Even he is smarter than a lot of people.

 

[AmericanFirst]

And then three days and three nights later he became zombie, right?

Zombie would be satan followers, like you.

 

[AmericanFirst]

I understand how you feel. It is very humane. But try to look at it from Jesus' point of view.

That's exactly what I was doing. In order to do that, you have to first strip away the accumulated Christian doctrine about him that has no bearing on his own point of view.

In the battle between Good and Evil, Satan was able to introduce sin into the blood of two of God's children. It is passed from the parent to the children. Satan thought he had won the battle AND severed forever the tie between us and our Father, because the rule is:
The punishment for sin is death, and, God can't look upon us or even hear us because of the sin that is in our blood. We can't work enough to remove it either. We were done for.
God and Jesus did an end around and in keeping with all of the guidelines, paid the penalty for sin with perfect sin free blood, hence paving the way for us to return to the penthouse where we belong. Re-pent means to return to the highest level.
God and Jesus won the battle for our souls. Had man not nailed Jesus to that cross, he would have climbed up there and nailed himself to it. And if He was capable of walking on water, He could have climbed down from a cross too. But He had a mission to accomplish. It was finished on that day. He loves us that much.

Yes, yes, yes, I've heard this argument before. It's absurd. The idea that there is anything in creation that God can't see or can't look through is nonsense. The idea that he had to send anyone to Hell is nonsense. God is the ground and being of everything; God IS everything, and without Him nothing was made that was made. There are no limits of that kind on God.

All of these philosophical explanations are after-the-fact justifications for what is, in origin, a truly bloodthirsty, primitive, and abominable idea of God as a punitive tyrant who demanded blood sacrifice for the offenses of mankind, and was appeased in his blood-lust by the willing sacrifice of his own son. That was the original idea, it made sense to people long ago who were barely out of savagery, but it makes no sense today, and whitewashing it with nonsensical ideas about the limitations on God will not cure its deficiencies.

Jesus was a wise and holy man who felt the presence of God within him and helped many to find the same presence within them. The religious authorities saw him as a threat and got the state to put him to death. That's all the meaning from his life and his crucifixion that we can be sure of.

What is nonsense is the bull you believe in. Jesus=right, all others=satan, satan.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Hey stupid..........if that's true, then Passover (which is calculated according to lunar cycles of the Jewish calendar) would occur just before Easter every year.

It's actually lined up as the first Sunday after the Spring solstice, because the celebration of Easter is actually a mix of Judaic/Pagan/Christian belief systems.

Rome had to throw a bone to the pagans of their country in order to get them to accept the new religion.

Try again Retarded Grungy Shithead.

Go ahead you dumb ass do the math, based on the DATE Jesus was killed compute the proper date this year and you will find that Thursday last was the actual DATE he died. But don't let facts or truth get in the way of a good rant.

I do not celebrate Easter or the resurrection Jesus did not command those be remembered only his death. Just like I do not celebrate his birth which was probably in October or November. He did not command that be celebrated either.

Wrong answer shithead. If you'd actually bother to read your Bible, you'd know that Jesus (a good Jewish man) was in Jerusalem to celebrate Passover (a Jewish holiday) and He was captured on the Friday it ended, and crucified a couple of days later.

Like I said you retarded moron, it's a Jewish holiday that is actually based on the lunar cycles.

If your date is so "accurate" why is it that Easter is tomorrow, but Passover doesn't end until next Friday?

Try again chumpsteak. The date of Easter is calculated as the first Sunday after Spring Solstice because Rome had to make concessions to the pagans when they adopted to their version of what they found in Jerusalem.

Also explains why His birthday is celebrated on the 25th (around the Winter Solstice) instead of when it actually occurred, which according to the stories in the Bible would have been around the end of October, because you don't do a census in the old days right in the middle of winter, it's too hard to get the people to come and be counted.

Try again chumpsteak.

Do the math retard.

 

[Douger]

Huertas y Jardines: Influencia de las fases lunares sobre las tareas de acodar, injertar, podar y cortar madera

 

[Dragon]

What is nonsense is the bull you believe in. Jesus=right, all others=satan, satan.

As I said on the other thread, there speaks the slave.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Go ahead you dumb ass do the math, based on the DATE Jesus was killed compute the proper date this year and you will find that Thursday last was the actual DATE he died. But don't let facts or truth get in the way of a good rant.

I do not celebrate Easter or the resurrection Jesus did not command those be remembered only his death. Just like I do not celebrate his birth which was probably in October or November. He did not command that be celebrated either.

Wrong answer shithead. If you'd actually bother to read your Bible, you'd know that Jesus (a good Jewish man) was in Jerusalem to celebrate Passover (a Jewish holiday) and He was captured on the Friday it ended, and crucified a couple of days later.

Like I said you retarded moron, it's a Jewish holiday that is actually based on the lunar cycles.

If your date is so "accurate" why is it that Easter is tomorrow, but Passover doesn't end until next Friday?

Try again chumpsteak. The date of Easter is calculated as the first Sunday after Spring Solstice because Rome had to make concessions to the pagans when they adopted to their version of what they found in Jerusalem.

Also explains why His birthday is celebrated on the 25th (around the Winter Solstice) instead of when it actually occurred, which according to the stories in the Bible would have been around the end of October, because you don't do a census in the old days right in the middle of winter, it's too hard to get the people to come and be counted.

Try again chumpsteak.

Do the math retard.

Why is Jesus being celebrated as risen when Passover isn't over yet? Did He time travel?