Darwinism? Tcha... You Know What? Uh-uh!

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    SEATTLE, June 22 (UPI) — More than 600 doctoral scientists from all around the world have signed a statement of skepticism about the contemporary theory of Darwinian evolution.

    The statement, at dissentfromdarwin.org, reads: "We areskeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged," the Discover Institute said in a statement Thursday.

    "I signed the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism statement because I am
    absolutely convinced of the lack of true scientific evidence in favor of
    Darwinian dogma," said Raul Leguizamon, professor of medicine at the Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico.

    "Nobody in the biological sciences, medicine included, needs Darwinism at all," added Leguizamon. "Darwinism is certainly needed, however, in order to pose as a philosopher, since it is primarily a worldview. And an awful one, as Bernard Shaw used to say."

    The list of 610 signatories includes scientists from National Academies of Science in Russia, Czech Republic, Hungary, India (Hindustan), Nigeria, Poland, Russia and the United States. Many of the signers are professors or researchers at major universities and international research institutions such as Cambridge University, British Museum of Natural History, Moscow State University, Masaryk University in Czech Republic, Hong Kong University, University of Turku in Finland, Autonomous University of Guadalajara in Mexico, University of Stellenbosch in South Africa, Institut de Paleontologie Humaine in France, Chitose Institute of Science & Technology in Japan, Ben-Gurion University in Israel, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, The Smithsonian and Princeton.

    "Dissent from Darwinism has gone global," said Discovery Institute President Bruce Chapman, former US Ambassador to the United Nations in Vienna.

    "Darwinists used to claim that virtually every scientist in the world held that Darwinian evolution was true, but we quickly started finding US scientists that disproved that statement. Now we're finding that there are hundreds, and probably thousands, of scientists all over the world that don't subscribe to Darwin's theory."

    Discovery Institute first published its Scientific Dissent From Darwinism list in 2001 to challenge false statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series. At the time it was claimed that, "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."

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    awesome. I like seeing scientists actually making sense. :)
     
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    About time.

    Anyone who wants to see the leading arguments themselves can just read

    Intelligent Design: The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories
    By: Stephen C. Meyer


    and compare it to the leading rebuttal

    Meyer's Hopeless Monster which refers to this
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...=Display&dopt=pubmed_pubmed&from_uid=11682312
    as its main source of evidence.

    Young Earth Creationists on the other hand are hopeless.
     
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    Don't bother catatonic. Anyone who doesn't believe in evolution is at this point hopeless.
     
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    Ha!

    By "About time" I implied that I supported intelligent design.
     
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    Yeah, because anybody who refuses to believe a vast, overly complex scheme that began with the random creation of the most complex molecule known to man with only a flimsy stack of evidence to go on and in complete defiance of Occum's Razor must be a nutjob.
     
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    Evolution is documented. We have the fossil record, geologic distribution of fossils (Why are identical 70 million year old dinosaur bones found in Africa and South America?). We have the microevolution of microscopic organisms. We have the common chain of ancestry. Geologic features such as volcanos and mountain ranges require a million plus year time scale. Germ Theory and genetics, both well regarded theories, rely on Evolution.
     
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    No, it isn't.
    which has huge gaps
    the geological column does not exist in pretty layers outside of text books. The same types of dinosaur bones can be found in different places bc the same types of animals lived in those different places. That has nothing to do with evolution. And as far as the fossils being 70 million years old, how do you know that?
    Which shows?
    Where?
    Perhaps cataclysmic events could speed things up a bit.
    Don't know much about the germ theory, but genetics DISproves macroevolution.
     
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    Pieces of the lava dome at Mt St Helens - formed with the last twenty years - were sent for radioisotope dating....results ranged from 0.35-2.8 million years!

    You don't know how long volcanos take to form. I don't either. I do know that in 1980 A local volcano spewed it's hot wet load over Washington state - and some parts of the world on the back side of the planet.

    26 years later the thing is 'growing back'.

    :)
     
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    A point to consider. If you build a car today out of metal that is one hundred years old, would you expect radioisotopic dating to return a result of one-day old? There's no telling how long the lava that formed the dome sample had lingered beneath the surface before it was ejected and cooled.
     

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