sakinago
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Not sure what your getting at, you seem to be running in circles now. And I'm pretty sure you do not have a good understanding of cancer. If everyone lived to be 120, they would all have cancer at one point in their life. Some people's Genetics are more prone to cancer, but there is no blueprint of genetics that will automatically give someone cancer. Either way using your argument, idiotic as it may be, cancer is a consequence of evolution. thought you were trying to argue for evolution.
Cancer is the breakdown of genetic information that tells cells in the body to hold off on mitosis until it is necessary. Once that is lost the cells begin to rapidly multiply, forming tumors. These cells mutate even more so than before doing things that are either non or counter productive to the body, this makes the tumor malignant. Some times the mutated cells break off from the parent tumor and travel through the body and attach somewhere else and make a new tumor. I think this is a pretty good quick review of cancer.
It's possible that you forgot what you wrote? Your earlier comment was that all genetic information is designed to change. The context of your claim appeared to be that a supernatural designer was responsible for all genetic information. As the claimed designer of all, are the gods not responsible for all?
Did the omni-everything gods somehow overlook biological evolution and miss this?
What?? now your just putting words into my mouth. I think your reading way too deep into what I am saying (maybe you've been arguing with these two too long). I never said or even tried to hint about a designer. What I said is that our genetics are designed for diversity, and mutation. But let me clarify so this does not happen again with you. Gamets are designed to randomize some of the genetic code, and once two gametes meet and become a zygote, they randomize again. Teeth are designed to chew, eyes are designed to take in light and measure at different wavelengths and amplitudes, and gametes are designed to make diversified offspring.
And again using your logic, you would have to blame cancer on evolution, which I dont understand why you would be using that logic if your trying to make an argument for evolution. Either way it is not correct logic for either argument, whether you want to argue for or against creationism. When you make that argument you do not have a clear understanding of what cancer is... or your just trying to pick fights. And I am not explaining cancer to you again.
Loki... Again your argument is only based on your interpretation of my use of the word design. This is my 3rd post on this thread and the quote above is my clarification to you of what I mean when I said design. I think we can both agree that it is pretty clear that when I used the word design I am using the same meaning as function, not using it to mean created like in your interpretation (which Im pretty sure youve known this all along, your just picking stupid fights, if you werent you would have had better arguments...that actually make sense). So... I would like to try to see you prove that I am for ID without using your interpretation of my use of the word design after I have just debunked it.
And again... the argument I have made against ID cannot be touched by christians, while your arguments against it consist of name-calling, and making claims that they are stupider than you, without backing it up. I actually think even though you do believe in evolution, they are smarter than you, mainly because you talk like your a member of the special poetry slam team. The key to winning a debate is to knock out just one of the legs of the table the other sides argument sits on, that is what I have done... not you.
And yea that is my own definition of ID, I really dont think you can argue with it. I think it sums it up pretty nicely. ID is the only argument christians (and some alien theorist) have against evolution.