Crystal Meth: The Three Point Political Question.

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    The Meth Epidemic - Video | FRONTLINE | PBS

    Oregon has apparently had some measurable success controlling meth addiction by putting Sudafed and products like it behind a prescription label, effectively killing the supply side by denying small kitchen labs the main ingredient. The statistics also owe a measure of success stemming from the good luck of the Oregon law happening at the same time the Mexican Government effectively put the Mexican factory labs out of business by banning the import of pseudoephedrine.

    It looks like meth availability and use can be dramatically altered in America by how tightly We, The People control the sale of pseudoephedrine.

    :eusa_think: The political question I can't decide in my own mind is this: The Socialist horror of lives destroyed by Crystal Methadone and the fall out society pays for it -vs- the Liberal free enterprise sale of anything a consenting adult wants, including Sudafed - idiots too stupid to walk away from meth be damned, and Conserving the status quo Pharma-billion$ that go bye-bye if Congress decides to force America to get a 'scrip for cold medicine?

    :eusa_think: With the exception of not having any love-lost for the pharmaceutical lobby on the Conservative side, I really am not sure how I feel about this one?
     
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    If a person uses Crystal Meth they are stupid. Seriously. Stupid. Society cannot legislate against stupidity. We can and should make it harder for these dummies to get the ingredients to make the shit that is killing them and destroying their lives, but requiring a prescription goes to far imho. If I catch a cold or flu- I want my over the counter remedies!
     
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    I'm leaning that way too... it's hard though, meth is incredibly ruinous. I can't quite bring myself to feel like the addicts are without choice in the matter but DAMN that is some serious self-abuse.
     
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    Let people do as they want...
     
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    It is totally destructive. I hate to see anyone abuse themselves that way. The grind their teeth to nubs, pick at their faces until they are scarred for life, it's a sad, horrible existence. I hate that shit!! I feel sorry for these people too. They need serious help.

    We have to rely on natural selection to weed out the dummies.....Hopefully they don't have children.
     
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    I'm a college educated CEO earning six figures and I used meth for years. It's got a grip on lots of folks, not just stupid idiots. These days I debauch myself with kinder gentler things like alcohol and tobacco.
     
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    Stupid is, as stupid does. Sorry. If you use Crystal Meth there is no way to sugar coat it- you're stupid. :razz:

    PS- I support your right to be stupid!!
    PPS- I have done stupid things too.....(i just don't talk about them)
     
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    The show I linked filmed a support group for women recovering from meth and each one of them had at least one li'l squab on their lap or at their feet. It also spoke of a child whose father taught her the recipe at age 9 - and that was the mild abuse she suffered. Apparently, addicts pimp their kids for dope. Very sad. Very disgusting.
     
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    So how do you feeeeeeeeeel about the political question? Do We, The Peeps need to step up the fight, even if it means an assault on Pharma-profits and stepping all over certain freedoms in the market place?

    I tried it in my 20's.... Fortunately, I didn't go down that road - can't tell you why, just one more example of me being a lucky bastard.
     
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    It is our number one drug issue here.
    We call it 'P'.
    The main problem with it is that it drives some people to unreasoning violence.
    We have had some horrific assaults and murders here by 'P' addicts.
    Now, any pseudoephedrine-based drug is a prescription-only issue.
     
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