Cruz: ‘In Effect, They Are Counterfeiting Immigration Papers’

[ShootSpeeders]

So now it's fascist to enforce laws against foreigners illegally invading your country and taking jobs and govt benefits from the citizens?. Then every country is fascist esp mexico. Invade mexico illegally and see how many rights and freebies they give you.

Dedication to the law without regard for the impact on society is fascism.

HAHA. What a meaningless statement. Typical liberal gibberish. HAHA

 

[ShootSpeeders]

No one stands to gain from most illegals, they are uneducated and cost the economy about $20,000 per year more than they contribute.

No one? Lots of businesses gain immensely from the low wages illegals cause. And, as everyone but you knows, illegals vote by the millions and they vote for the welfare party.

 

[BluesLegend]

It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

These illegals sneak into our country illegally and kill our kids with Methamphetamines, they rob, rape, murder...that traitorous liberals are aiding them is sickening.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

As many have said, "prosecutorial discretion" can in no way be used to justify handing out work permits to illegals. That' actually doing something - not just looking the other way while illegals break laws.

Cruz In Effect They Are Counterfeiting Immigration Papers CNS News

jan 29 2015
CNSNews.com) - Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said Thursday that contrary to what attorney general nominee Loretta Lynch said in her confirmation hearing on Wednesday that illegal aliens do not have a right to work in the United States and that by printing work authorizations for them the Obama administration is effectively “counterfeiting immigration papers.”

CNSNews asked asked Cruz: Do you believe illegal aliens should have a right to work in the United States as Loretta Lynch told Senator Sessions?

Cruz responded: Federal law is unequivocal. Those who are present in this country illegally are barred from working. The Obama administration is printing up work authorizations directly contrary to federal law. In effect, they are counterfeiting immigration papers, because the plain text of federal law makes it illegal for those who have entered this country illegally to obtain employment.

In case no one noticed, what they did was they overtly encouraged millions of people to LITERALLY INVADE THE UNITED STATES... most of whom have no skills, no means to support themselves and are entirely dependent upon the US Federal Government for their survival.

By given them work permits, they legitimize them... from there it is just a quick trip to the Dept of Motor Vehicles for a Driver's license and PRESTO... MILLIONS of voters who are in EVERY CONCEIVABLE WAY, DEPENDENT UPON YOU FOR THEIR VERY SURVIVAL...

Meaning that if you get voted OUT, they will likely get KICKED OUT.

Now which way are those idiots going to vote?

That is called SUBVERSION OF THE SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE... OKA: Fundamentally changing the United States of America.

It is an act of war.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Dedication to the law without regard for the impact on society is fascism.

ROFLMNAO! No its not. That's absurd on its face.


But which laws are ya referring to?

The law which allows the US Federal Government to import voters who are entirely dependent upon that government for their survival?

OR The Law which forbids the US Federal Government from buying votes?

Because illicitly using the power obtained through the public trust, against that public, THAT is fascism.

 

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Dedication to the law without regard for the impact on society is fascism.

ROFLMNAO! No its not. That's absurd on its face.


But which laws are ya referring to?

The law which allows the US Federal Government to import voters who are entirely dependent upon that government for their survival?

OR The Law which forbids the US Federal Government from buying votes?

Because illicitly using the power obtained through the public trust, against that public, THAT is fascism.

No really, it is fascism to want to use government force to cleanse our nation of people you fear and hate.

 

[occupied]

It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

These illegals sneak into our country illegally and kill our kids with Methamphetamines, they rob, rape, murder...that traitorous liberals are aiding them is sickening.

All of them are murderous raping meth dealers? Wow! Don't you think you are exaggerating just a tiny bit?

 

[BluesLegend]

It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

These illegals sneak into our country illegally and kill our kids with Methamphetamines, they rob, rape, murder...that traitorous liberals are aiding them is sickening.

All of them are murderous raping meth dealers? Wow! Don't you think you are exaggerating just a tiny bit?

No, did you miss the National Geographic documentary on illegals taking over the illegal Meth distribution in our country? Damn its amazing how little liberals know about what the fuck is going on.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Dedication to the law without regard for the impact on society is fascism.

ROFLMNAO! No its not. That's absurd on its face.


But which laws are ya referring to?

The law which allows the US Federal Government to import voters who are entirely dependent upon that government for their survival?

OR The Law which forbids the US Federal Government from buying votes?

Because illicitly using the power obtained through the public trust, against that public, THAT is fascism.

No really, it is fascism to want to use government force to cleanse our nation of people you fear and hate.

My fear and hate did not force those people to illegally enter the US... (With which, FTR: I am perfectly fine. The US had an open southern border since the border existed. The 'illegal immigration problem' only came into being after the introduction of "THE GREAT SOCIETY". Which required Government to subsidize 'da poh'.) My problem with illegal immigration is the socialist use of such to build a constituency which depends upon it for its survival.

I consider such to be an act of war.

So your attempt to isolate me as a hater... so that you can then apply the rest of the Alinsky tenets is a non-stater with me scamp.

Which you should know by now, considering the hundreds of times I've kicked your intellectual ass around this forum, with you being helpless to do a dam' thing about it, but sit there and take it.

 

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Dedication to the law without regard for the impact on society is fascism.

ROFLMNAO! No its not. That's absurd on its face.


But which laws are ya referring to?

The law which allows the US Federal Government to import voters who are entirely dependent upon that government for their survival?

OR The Law which forbids the US Federal Government from buying votes?

Because illicitly using the power obtained through the public trust, against that public, THAT is fascism.

No really, it is fascism to want to use government force to cleanse our nation of people you fear and hate.

My fear and hate did not force those people to illegally enter the US... (With which, FTR: I am perfectly fine. The US had an open southern border since the border existed. The 'illegal immigration problem' only came into being after the introduction of "THE GREAT SOCIETY". Which required Government to subsidize 'da poh'.)

So your attempt to isolate me as a hater... so that you can then apply the rest of the Alinsky tenets is a non-stater with me scamp.

Which you should know by now, considering the hundreds of times I've kicked your intellectual ass around this forum, with you being helpless to do a dam' thing about it, but sit there and take it.

You sure sound like a hater. Things are how they are and no politician or party is completely blameless, you know that, but now a certain subset of conservatives want to start kicking in doors and treating law abiding, hard-working people like garbage, tear parents away from their children and kick children out of the only country they have ever known. You tell me there is not a healthy dose of hatred in wanting to cause so much strife for no good reason and I will call you a bad liar.

 

[thereisnospoon]

It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

Mercy?
Oh contrare.....The federal government is deferring to law breakers for political expedience.
There is no mercy or other alleged humanitarian purpose.
Mercy....HA!.....Why is it that your side's brand of so called compassion always results in an adverse effect on those who have no interest in your schemes?
Cut the bullshit. The only reason why you want illegals here is the potential for more democrat voters.

 

[thereisnospoon]

It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

Dumb ass, how about we take care of our citizens.....let other countries worry about their own! You don't like it when we get involved militarily with other countries, what double standard do you play be?

I don't like unilaterally deciding to invade counties that are no threat to us and I don't like ripping families apart just to make the xenophobes happy. Both opinions go along with my feeling that government should reflect my values of goodness and mercy rather than your values of wanting to beat down defenseless people because of irrational fear and loathing and the need for a scapegoat.

"ripping families apart just to make the xenophobes happy."...
Excuse me....Those who made the conscious choice to knowingly break out laws cause their own families to be at risk.
Now, you can stow the liberal narrative that "illegal means Latino"...That no longer works.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Dedication to the law without regard for the impact on society is fascism.

ROFLMNAO! No its not. That's absurd on its face.


But which laws are ya referring to?

The law which allows the US Federal Government to import voters who are entirely dependent upon that government for their survival?

OR The Law which forbids the US Federal Government from buying votes?

Because illicitly using the power obtained through the public trust, against that public, THAT is fascism.

No really, it is fascism to want to use government force to cleanse our nation of people you fear and hate.

My fear and hate did not force those people to illegally enter the US... (With which, FTR: I am perfectly fine. The US had an open southern border since the border existed. The 'illegal immigration problem' only came into being after the introduction of "THE GREAT SOCIETY". Which required Government to subsidize 'da poh'.)

So your attempt to isolate me as a hater... so that you can then apply the rest of the Alinsky tenets is a non-stater with me scamp.

Which you should know by now, considering the hundreds of times I've kicked your intellectual ass around this forum, with you being helpless to do a dam' thing about it, but sit there and take it.

You sure sound like a hater. Things are how they are and no politician or party is completely blameless, you know that, but now a certain subset of conservatives want to start kicking in doors and treating law abiding, hard-working people like garbage, tear parents away from their children and kick children out of the only country they have ever known. You tell me there is not a healthy dose of hatred in wanting to cause so much strife for no good reason and I will call you a bad liar.

Again with the melodramatics of "hate"....cut the bullshit.

 

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It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

Mercy?
Oh contrare.....The federal government is deferring to law breakers for political expedience.
There is no mercy or other alleged humanitarian purpose.
Mercy....HA!.....Why is it that your side's brand of so called compassion always results in an adverse effect on those who have no interest in your schemes?
Cut the bullshit. The only reason why you want illegals here is the potential for more democrat voters.

Another one that wants to go all kristallnacht on some some Mexican untermenchin. You don't even know that if you and your kind got your way the conservative brand would be ruined for a generation if not more.

 

[thereisnospoon]

It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

It's also disheartening how the government acts towards U.S citizens. Look what they've done to this once great country over the past 50 plus years. Look where we are now. Look at the number of citizens living in poverty, the homeless, the citizens that can't find employment, our infrastructure, our debt that'll be passed on to future generations, senseless deadly costly wars, taxation without representation, lost privacy, our corrupt judicial system, government corruption, our police state, sub par education system, sub par health care, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Yep, poor pitiful illegal immigrants. Free education, free health care, housing and food, and other assistance paid for by U.S. citizens' hard earned tax dollars.

Conservatives always try to solve social problems with surveillance, coercion, cops and force. Thank the fearful conservatives for our "police state". It was built to combat crime, drugs, terrorism, etc. and now it seems they now want to turn it's arbitrary force on illegal immigrants because they just cannot live without an enemy within to fear.

That is such nonsense.
The fact is socialist (left) countries are well documented for their perverse use of intrusive technology to monitor the activities of their citizens.
"Social problems".....Yes, an area the exclusive province of progressives. Because it is YOU who create the problems to begin with.
You people still have not figured out how NOT to violate the laws of unintended consequences.

 

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Dedication to the law without regard for the impact on society is fascism.

ROFLMNAO! No its not. That's absurd on its face.


But which laws are ya referring to?

The law which allows the US Federal Government to import voters who are entirely dependent upon that government for their survival?

OR The Law which forbids the US Federal Government from buying votes?

Because illicitly using the power obtained through the public trust, against that public, THAT is fascism.

No really, it is fascism to want to use government force to cleanse our nation of people you fear and hate.

My fear and hate did not force those people to illegally enter the US... (With which, FTR: I am perfectly fine. The US had an open southern border since the border existed. The 'illegal immigration problem' only came into being after the introduction of "THE GREAT SOCIETY". Which required Government to subsidize 'da poh'.)

So your attempt to isolate me as a hater... so that you can then apply the rest of the Alinsky tenets is a non-stater with me scamp.

Which you should know by now, considering the hundreds of times I've kicked your intellectual ass around this forum, with you being helpless to do a dam' thing about it, but sit there and take it.

You sure sound like a hater. Things are how they are and no politician or party is completely blameless, you know that, but now a certain subset of conservatives want to start kicking in doors and treating law abiding, hard-working people like garbage, tear parents away from their children and kick children out of the only country they have ever known. You tell me there is not a healthy dose of hatred in wanting to cause so much strife for no good reason and I will call you a bad liar.

Again with the melodramatics of "hate"....cut the bullshit.

I call them like I see them, hater.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

It is so disheartening to see how conservatives react when the government acts with consideration and mercy for vulnerable people.

It's also disheartening how the government acts towards U.S citizens. Look what they've done to this once great country over the past 50 plus years. Look where we are now. Look at the number of citizens living in poverty, the homeless, the citizens that can't find employment, our infrastructure, our debt that'll be passed on to future generations, senseless deadly costly wars, taxation without representation, lost privacy, our corrupt judicial system, government corruption, our police state, sub par education system, sub par health care, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Yep, poor pitiful illegal immigrants. Free education, free health care, housing and food, and other assistance paid for by U.S. citizens' hard earned tax dollars.

Conservatives always try to solve social problems with surveillance, coercion, cops and force. Thank the fearful conservatives for our "police state". It was built to combat crime, drugs, terrorism, etc. and now it seems they now want to turn it's arbitrary force on illegal immigrants because they just cannot live without an enemy within to fear.

That is such nonsense.
The fact is socialist (left) countries are well documented for their perverse use of intrusive technology to monitor the activities of their citizens.
"Social problems".....Yes, an area the exclusive province of progressives. Because it is YOU who create the problems to begin with.
You people still have not figured out how NOT to violate the laws of unintended consequences.

Ya nailed it...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

ROFLMNAO! No its not. That's absurd on its face.


But which laws are ya referring to?

The law which allows the US Federal Government to import voters who are entirely dependent upon that government for their survival?

OR The Law which forbids the US Federal Government from buying votes?

Because illicitly using the power obtained through the public trust, against that public, THAT is fascism.

No really, it is fascism to want to use government force to cleanse our nation of people you fear and hate.

My fear and hate did not force those people to illegally enter the US... (With which, FTR: I am perfectly fine. The US had an open southern border since the border existed. The 'illegal immigration problem' only came into being after the introduction of "THE GREAT SOCIETY". Which required Government to subsidize 'da poh'.)

So your attempt to isolate me as a hater... so that you can then apply the rest of the Alinsky tenets is a non-stater with me scamp.

Which you should know by now, considering the hundreds of times I've kicked your intellectual ass around this forum, with you being helpless to do a dam' thing about it, but sit there and take it.

You sure sound like a hater. Things are how they are and no politician or party is completely blameless, you know that, but now a certain subset of conservatives want to start kicking in doors and treating law abiding, hard-working people like garbage, tear parents away from their children and kick children out of the only country they have ever known. You tell me there is not a healthy dose of hatred in wanting to cause so much strife for no good reason and I will call you a bad liar.

Again with the melodramatics of "hate"....cut the bullshit.

I call them like I see them, hater.

But you're blind and that would be bad enough... but with you being an imbecile and all... well, you see how it is.

 

[thereisnospoon]

"As many have said, "prosecutorial discretion" can in no way be used to justify handing out work permits to illegals. That' actually doing something - not just looking the other way while illegals break laws."

And many are wrong, just like you and Cruz.

Immigration policy provides for work authorization for undocumented immigrants awaiting adjudication of their immigration status, and those granted deferral status:

Consideration of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals DACA USCIS

An undocumented immigrant is not 'illegal' until such time as a court of law has in fact determined the immigrant entered the country absent authorization, as all persons in the United States are entitled to due process of the law, including those undocumented; because all persons in the United States are presumed innocent until proven guilty, to withhold work authorization without a final determination of one's immigration status would be un-Constitutional.

That you 'think' or 'believe' that someone 'might' be in the United States absent authorization simply as a consequence of your unwarranted fear and hatred of Hispanics is not 'justification' to deny those undocumented their right to due process.

You are incorrect. The moment the person violates the border he or she is "illegal"....
Here's an idea...Try going to mexico in the same manner as their people sneak into the US....See what happens when you get caught.
here's a hint.....You don't get sent back with a "don't you do this again"...You get to spend an extended period of your life in some cockroach infested shit hole pinned to a rather large murderer named Raul.

 

[thereisnospoon]

"As many have said, "prosecutorial discretion" can in no way be used to justify handing out work permits to illegals. That' actually doing something - not just looking the other way while illegals break laws."

And many are wrong, just like you and Cruz.

Immigration policy provides for work authorization for undocumented immigrants awaiting adjudication of their immigration status, and those granted deferral status:

Consideration of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals DACA USCIS

An undocumented immigrant is not 'illegal' until such time as a court of law has in fact determined the immigrant entered the country absent authorization, as all persons in the United States are entitled to due process of the law, including those undocumented; because all persons in the United States are presumed innocent until proven guilty, to withhold work authorization without a final determination of one's immigration status would be un-Constitutional.

That you 'think' or 'believe' that someone 'might' be in the United States absent authorization simply as a consequence of your unwarranted fear and hatred of Hispanics is not 'justification' to deny those undocumented their right to due process.

Conservatives despise due process when it protects someone who is not a white protestant natural born American male.

Fuck off, you racist prick.