Cringe discussion of DEI on The Chris Wallace Show

[Hutch Starskey]

You're right, that hurt to watch.

Facts vs Emotions

DEI? Equity does not translate to equality

Neither does exclusion.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

This was painful... and I will admit I FFWD a couple times.
But it exemplifies the destructive power of DEI boards in schools across the nation that employ them.
And, again - makes you shake your head that people just like these moonbats control the media, sports entertainment, the entire advertising industry and 90% of Hollywood.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What this Indian bootlicker,

That’s when I stopped reading

 

[IM2]

That’s when I stopped reading

Maybe you shouldn't have. Because we have to read your inflammatory comments about blacks and as an Asian, you have benefitted from DEI.

 

[IM2]

One of the many behavioral similarities between the two ends of our political spectrum is that they NEVER give even one (1) moment's thought to the potential negative ramifications of their actions. They just keep pushing their agenda on everyone else and expect them to bend over and take it.

Well, now you're seeing the pushback. It's crap like this that has festered and festered for a few decades, and it all blew up in the Left's faces with the election of Trump. He was the pushback to much of this stuff.

So you can dismiss it, you can ignore it, you can mock it, you can attack those who bring it up. But the fact remains, this is the kind of thing that ended up bringing us Trumpism. This is the pushback that you didn't take a moment to consider.

No, what we are seeing is the standard white backlash against anything that even remotely addresses true equality. You are so entrenched in your delusion whereby you claim neutrality that you have been unable to see whats going on. Trump isn't the puhback. And if you think that equality is some left vs right issue, you're crazy.

Trump has never won the vote of the people, so whatever pushback you're talking about is phantom. If there was any real pushback, it was Reagan who actually did win the popular vote each time. So you see mac, you have fallen for the false narrative of the right while sitting on your sanctiminous --- thinking you have the right to criticize "both sides."

There is nothing to listen to. It's either we are for true equality for everyone, which means we take real steps to fix the damage caused by a system predicated on white racial preference, or we pretend that systen never existed and we talk about how race should never matter and everything should be based on merit.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You're right, that hurt to watch.

Facts vs Emotions

DEI? Equity does not translate to equality

ChatGPT:

"Equity" and "equality" are related concepts, but they have distinct meanings and implications. Here's how they differ and where they share common ground:​

Equality:​

• Meaning: Equality refers to the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities.
• Objective: The goal of equality is to ensure that everyone has the same starting point and is treated in the same way. It focuses on uniformity and sameness.
• Illustration: In the context of education, equality might mean that all students have the same textbooks, attend the same classes, and have access to the same facilities.

Equity:​

• Meaning: Equity involves fairness and justice in the distribution of resources, opportunities, and outcomes, accounting for differences and ensuring that everyone has what they need to be successful.
• Objective: The goal of equity is to address and rectify systemic or historical disparities, acknowledging that individuals may require different levels of support to achieve the same outcome.
• Illustration: In the context of education, equity might mean providing additional resources and support to students from disadvantaged backgrounds to ensure they have an equal chance of success as their more privileged peers.

How They're the Same:​

• Common Goal: Both equity and equality aim to promote fairness and justice, albeit through different means.
• Anti-Discrimination: Both concepts reject discrimination based on factors such as race, gender, socioeconomic status, etc.
• Social Justice: Both are often associated with broader principles of social justice and the idea of creating a more just and inclusive society.

In summary, while equality emphasizes sameness and uniform treatment, equity focuses on fairness by acknowledging and addressing existing disparities. The choice between emphasizing equality or equity often depends on the specific context and the goal of achieving justice and fairness in a particular situation.​

​

 

[IM2]

ChatGPT:​

​

"Equity" and "equality" are related concepts, but they have distinct meanings and implications. Here's how they differ and where they share common ground:​

​

Equality:​

• Meaning: Equality refers to the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities.
• Objective: The goal of equality is to ensure that everyone has the same starting point and is treated in the same way. It focuses on uniformity and sameness.
• Illustration: In the context of education, equality might mean that all students have the same textbooks, attend the same classes, and have access to the same facilities.

Equity:​

• Meaning: Equity involves fairness and justice in the distribution of resources, opportunities, and outcomes, accounting for differences and ensuring that everyone has what they need to be successful.
• Objective: The goal of equity is to address and rectify systemic or historical disparities, acknowledging that individuals may require different levels of support to achieve the same outcome.
• Illustration: In the context of education, equity might mean providing additional resources and support to students from disadvantaged backgrounds to ensure they have an equal chance of success as their more privileged peers.

How They're the Same:​

• Common Goal: Both equity and equality aim to promote fairness and justice, albeit through different means.
• Anti-Discrimination: Both concepts reject discrimination based on factors such as race, gender, socioeconomic status, etc.
• Social Justice: Both are often associated with broader principles of social justice and the idea of creating a more just and inclusive society.

In summary, while equality emphasizes sameness and uniform treatment, equity focuses on fairness by acknowledging and addressing existing disparities. The choice between emphasizing equality or equity often depends on the specific context and the goal of achieving justice and fairness in a particular situation.​

​

Apparently Meister and those with a similar mindset don't want equality and fairness.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

ChatGPT:​

​

"Equity" and "equality" are related concepts, but they have distinct meanings and implications. Here's how they differ and where they share common ground:​

​

Equality:​

• Meaning: Equality refers to the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities.
• Objective: The goal of equality is to ensure that everyone has the same starting point and is treated in the same way. It focuses on uniformity and sameness.
• Illustration: In the context of education, equality might mean that all students have the same textbooks, attend the same classes, and have access to the same facilities.

Equity:​

• Meaning: Equity involves fairness and justice in the distribution of resources, opportunities, and outcomes, accounting for differences and ensuring that everyone has what they need to be successful.
• Objective: The goal of equity is to address and rectify systemic or historical disparities, acknowledging that individuals may require different levels of support to achieve the same outcome.
• Illustration: In the context of education, equity might mean providing additional resources and support to students from disadvantaged backgrounds to ensure they have an equal chance of success as their more privileged peers.

How They're the Same:​

• Common Goal: Both equity and equality aim to promote fairness and justice, albeit through different means.
• Anti-Discrimination: Both concepts reject discrimination based on factors such as race, gender, socioeconomic status, etc.
• Social Justice: Both are often associated with broader principles of social justice and the idea of creating a more just and inclusive society.

In summary, while equality emphasizes sameness and uniform treatment, equity focuses on fairness by acknowledging and addressing existing disparities. The choice between emphasizing equality or equity often depends on the specific context and the goal of achieving justice and fairness in a particular situation.​

​

 

[leftwinger]

That one lady who is "infuriated" is complaining about something the Left created. When a minority is included, there will always be a question as to why. THAT'S BECAUSE THE LEFT DEMANDED THE INCLUSION IN THE FIRST PLACE. Exactly what were they expecting when they dropped standards and made immutable characteristics like race and gender a higher priority than merit?

This is a great example of the crap that turns people off about the Left.

Nice Spin chicken dic. Your still a Libstain Obiden. You’re not fooling anything with that pathetic 1% attack on your Marxist butt-buddies.//

 

[leftwinger]

One of the many behavioral similarities between the two ends of our political spectrum is that they NEVER give even one (1) moment's thought to the potential negative ramifications of their actions. They just keep pushing their agenda on everyone else and expect them to bend over and take it.

Well, now you're seeing the pushback. It's crap like this that has festered and festered for a few decades, and it all blew up in the Left's faces with the election of Trump. He was the pushback to much of this stuff.

So you can dismiss it, you can ignore it, you can mock it, you can attack those who bring it up. But the fact remains, this is the kind of thing that ended up bringing us Trumpism. This is the pushback that you didn't take a moment to consider.

good Lord here he goes again. Wow!

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

what were they expecting when they dropped standards and made immutable characteristics like race and gender a higher priority than merit?

That is a totally asinine statement because you're basically stating that people who are female or of a minority group are automatically LESS qualified.

You all have repeated this falsehood so often and in such a steady and unrelenting refrain that people now accept this as the truth and don't even bother asking for proof of its veracity.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Chris Wallace starts out with the "racial reckoning" of George Floyd, which is another bogus Radical Left issue.
If Floyd had been White, you would have never heard of him because his case was exploited by the racist demagogue Democrats to help elect Joe Biden.
DEI, CRT and ESG are unconstitutional policies that discriminate.
Those polices treat people differently based on race and gender, which is illegal.
The two ladies have not evolved enough yet to accept that everyone has the same civil rights.
It is like when the Radical Left had a shitfit when affirmative action racial discrimination in education was ruled unconstitutional by the USSC.

How in the hell does CRT which stands for "critical race theory" discriminate against anyone or is unconstitutional?

I have no idea what ESG stands for, could you please enlighten us?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

We are in decline. Just one morsel is the Boeing 737. In another era this aircraft would be cancelled and a huge embarrassment. DEI is heavy in this corporation. Everything is more and more expensive. China and/or East Asia are making aircraft now. They will get competitive in passenger aircraft at some point.

You all see the bogey man EVERYWHERE.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

... White and male have been the primary characteristics of everything, not merit..

DEI was created to insure that merit would be a priority. Have you not EVER taken the time to ask yourself why white hires or appointees qualifications are never questioned? Do you not understand that white is a race?

Just wanted to reiterate this

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

How is it sound thinking to believe that 13% of the population should be represented equally in businesses?

How is it not exclusion if Black Americans make up 13% of the U.S. population but do not make up 13% of the workforce?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Jobs should be earned on your merit and ability.

Not enforced at the barrel of a government gun based solely on the color of your hide.

So now you want jobs distributed based on merit and ability? Where was this thinking for the last 100 or so years?

Or forget the last 100+ years, what about since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Even though the law has changed, Black people still do not occupy 13% of the workforce. Do you think this could possibly be because 60 years later Black people are still being excluded from some jobs especially the better and higher paying occupations & professions?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

If DEI Was created to assure that merit would be a priority, how do you explain that someone like Claudine Gay - a woman of limited publications and a long history of plagarism - ended up as the president of the most prestigious university in the country?

Furthermore, if merit were the priority, how can such a compromised woman who has embarrassed her college with her cheating, AND her refusal to condemn calls to genocide Jews, REMAIN at Harvard earning a $900,000 salary?

Because merit is NOT the priority. Her race is. Not only would she have been kicked to the curb totally, she never would have been hired had she been anything other than a black female.

Stefanik asked the wrong question if she wanted an unequivocal declaration that calling for the genocide of the Jewish people is wrong.

 

[IM2]

What does the question Stefanik asked have to do with this?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That is a totally asinine statement because you're basically stating that people who are female or of a minority group are automatically LESS qualified.

You all have repeated this falsehood so often and in such a steady and unrelenting refrain that people now accept this as the truth and don't even bother asking for proof of its veracity.

Exactly.
It simply means equal consideration for those of equal merit. Without some conscious considerations, bias, bigotry and exclusion is unfortunately the norm.

 

[IM2]

No Asian, that's not equity in reality.