Could we put the lies about Biden to bed now?

[HereWeGoAgain]

I think right wingers don't particularly care if he's actually guilty or not. They think he's bad and they want their person to win, so they'll instigate and throw shit around regardless. It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

As it stands no, HE IS NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING.

So............the sky is not blue. Got it.

Name the charges and evidence to support your claims.

 

[RealDave]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

What money went into Biden's pockets?

 

[RealDave]

Which story about Biden are you trying to hide this week?

SO, how come all these women did not accuse Biden of improper sexual advances?
Why does your orange god have more than twenty

When you assfucks start saying how bad a Democrat is, best to to pick a snbject where Trump has a far worse history.

 

[Leo123]

You’ve posted a video of Biden actually doing what Trump is trying to claim he was doing in Ukraine.

Rooting out corruption

Only, President Trump was actually trying to do it. He wasn't trying to get his son out of hot water by bribing a foreign country for personal benefit, like Biden did.

 

[colfax_m]

You’ve posted a video of Biden actually doing what Trump is trying to claim he was doing in Ukraine.

Rooting out corruption

Only, President Trump was actually trying to do it. He wasn't trying to get his son out of hot water like Biden.

Biden was trying to get a corrupt prosecutor fired. Are you of the opinion that Ukraine should have kept the corrupt prosecutor in their highest position?

 

[Leo123]

You’ve posted a video of Biden actually doing what Trump is trying to claim he was doing in Ukraine.

Rooting out corruption

Only, President Trump was actually trying to do it. He wasn't trying to get his son out of hot water like Biden.

Biden was trying to get a corrupt prosecutor fired. Are you of the opinion that Ukraine should have kept the corrupt prosecutor in their highest position?

The prosecutor was labeled 'corrupt' by Biden because he wanted to get him fired for investigating his son. You seem to forget Biden was a U.S. VP in charge of routing out corruption in the Ukraine at the time and the full weight of U.S. foreign policy was applied for Biden's own private purposes NOT for routing out corruption. Shokin himself said that he was pressured NOT to investigate Burisma and that was because of Biden withholding American aid.

 

[colfax_m]

You’ve posted a video of Biden actually doing what Trump is trying to claim he was doing in Ukraine.

Rooting out corruption

Only, President Trump was actually trying to do it. He wasn't trying to get his son out of hot water like Biden.

Biden was trying to get a corrupt prosecutor fired. Are you of the opinion that Ukraine should have kept the corrupt prosecutor in their highest position?

The prosecutor was labeled 'corrupt' by Biden because he wanted to get him fired for investigating his son. You seem to forget Biden was a U.S. VP in charge of routing out corruption in the Ukraine at the time and the full weight of U.S. foreign policy was applied for Biden's own private purposes NOT for routing out corruption. Shokin himself said that he was pressured NOT to investigate Burisma and that was because of Biden withholding American aid.

The prosecutor was labeled as corrupt by a lot of people actually. Starting with our ambassador to Ukraine, all of the diplomatic staff, the IMF and our European allies.

Tell me, did everyone else label Shokin as corrupt because they wanted to protect Hunter Biden too?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

What money went into Biden's pockets?

Ivanka on the Board of 20 foreign countries! 30!

 

[Dragonlady]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

What happens when the next administration investigates Ivanka Trump over those Chinese trademarks, Frank. Or Don Jr. about that Chinese government loan?

Daddy lifted sanctions on a big Chinese tech firm two days after the Trump Indonesia loan was approved.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I read:

Biden Sr. used his influence to control Ukrainian aid, and it worked. Biden Sr. took a special interest in Ukraine, so much so his son landed a cool 50K a month job on his name alone. He was hired by a company formally investigated by Shokin, and on-going investigations by others. What Biden and Biden did are real cool.

Unlike Biden, there's no smoking gun where Trump is concerned. Impeachable.

Office of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine and National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) have conducted in total 15 investigations on Burisma's owner Zlochevsky.[38] In 2016, former Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko accused Burisma subsidiaries of conspiracy and tax evasion of about one billion hryvnias (US$70 million) in 2014–2015, but later during investigation subsidiaries of Burisma were not mentioned.[39] Tax audit of Esko-Pivnich by the State Fiscal Service found some violations in 2016. As a result, 50 million hryvnias (US$1.9 million) of additional taxes was paid to eliminate criminal charges.[39] In total, Burisma paid additional 180 million hryvnias (US$7.44 million) of taxes to avoid further criminal proceedings.[8][23] A criminal investigation was conducted if natural resources extraction licenses were issued to Burisma subsidiaries legally during the period Zlochevsky held government office. Although violations of the procedure were established by NABU, the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor's Office missed procedural deadlines for a lawsuit and the case for nullifying licesenses was dismissed by the court.[39] In October 2019, Prosecutor General Ruslan Riaboshapka announced that all 15 investigation cases will be reviewed.[38]

 

[Leo123]

The prosecutor was labeled as corrupt by a lot of people actually. Starting with our ambassador to Ukraine, all of the diplomatic staff, the IMF and our European allies.

Tell me, did everyone else label Shokin as corrupt because they wanted to protect Hunter Biden too?

'Was labeled by a lot of people' is not proof and don't forget that Biden was point-man for investigating Ukrainian corruption as a U.S. Vice President representing the President at the time which was Obama. Obama OK'd the withholding of American aid until Shokin was fired. Tell me you discount the fact that Biden's son (who was making 12 times more than any Bursima board member) was not bailed out by Biden's use of American tax dollars to get Shokin fired. You gotta be an idiot not to see the bribery there. Hell, Biden even BRAGGED about it!!!

You bring up America's allies but you don't mention that U.S. foreign policy drives allied policy. I mean, you have to be stupid not to see what was going on there and totally oblivious to America's power around the world.

 

[bripat9643]

Nadler should be arrested if he does not comply with The Law.View attachment 293593

What evidence to Trump hide from Congress?

You fn stupid shithead WHY do you think he told 6 of his ass kissers not to testify ??? Because he's innocent??

Yes, exactly. Why should he participate in his own lynching? You assholes just don't get it. You keep expecting us to pretend that was is going on in Congress is some kind of fair process.

He has a constitutional responsibility. He is refusing to allow any check on the executive.

House rules aren’t criminal law silly.

So you're saying that Nadler can just ignore House rules? Isn't your whole justification for the Soviet show trial the claim that Dims are following House rules?

 

[bripat9643]

So you expect us to take your word on that?

My word on what? I quoted a Ukrainian talking about Shokin not investigating Burisma. It's not my word, it's theirs.

Why should anyone believe them?

There’s numerous sources, all telling the same story. Shokin was not investigating Burisma. Who is saying Shokin was investigating Burisma?

Shokin, for one.

Ah, of course. You must admit his credibility is a little questionable. Anyone else?

His credibility isn't 1/10th as questionable as Schiff's, dumbfuck.

 

[colfax_m]

Nadler should be arrested if he does not comply with The Law.View attachment 293593

You fn stupid shithead WHY do you think he told 6 of his ass kissers not to testify ??? Because he's innocent??

Yes, exactly. Why should he participate in his own lynching? You assholes just don't get it. You keep expecting us to pretend that was is going on in Congress is some kind of fair process.

He has a constitutional responsibility. He is refusing to allow any check on the executive.

House rules aren’t criminal law silly.

So you're saying that Nadler can just ignore House rules? Isn't your whole justification for the Soviet show trial the claim that Dims are following House rules?

I’m saying he won’t be criminally charged for violating them.

 

[colfax_m]

My word on what? I quoted a Ukrainian talking about Shokin not investigating Burisma. It's not my word, it's theirs.

Why should anyone believe them?

There’s numerous sources, all telling the same story. Shokin was not investigating Burisma. Who is saying Shokin was investigating Burisma?

Shokin, for one.

Ah, of course. You must admit his credibility is a little questionable. Anyone else?

His credibility isn't 1/10th as questionable as Schiff's, dumbfuck.

Schiff isn’t a fact witness. His credibility is irrelevant.

 

[colfax_m]

The prosecutor was labeled as corrupt by a lot of people actually. Starting with our ambassador to Ukraine, all of the diplomatic staff, the IMF and our European allies.

Tell me, did everyone else label Shokin as corrupt because they wanted to protect Hunter Biden too?

'Was labeled by a lot of people' is not proof and don't forget that Biden was point-man for investigating Ukrainian corruption as a U.S. Vice President representing the President at the time which was Obama. Obama OK'd the withholding of American aid until Shokin was fired. Tell me you discount the fact that Biden's son (who was making 12 times more than any Bursima board member) was not bailed out by Biden's use of American tax dollars to get Shokin fired. You gotta be an idiot not to see the bribery there. Hell, Biden even BRAGGED about it!!!

You bring up America's allies but you don't mention that U.S. foreign policy drives allied policy. I mean, you have to be stupid not to see what was going on there and totally oblivious to America's power around the world.

You claim it was a fact that Shokin being fired “bailed out” Hunter Biden. Please provide proof of this fact because as far as I can tell, that’s not a fact at all.

 

[edward37]

But the moron Trump is credible?
Mueller testimony: The 10 times Trump may have obstructed ...

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Jul 23, 2019 - It was then reported in June that Mueller was investigating Mr. Trump for obstruction of justice, prompting the president to publicly attack Mueller ...
Mueller all but confirmed that Trump committed obstruction of ...

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Jul 24, 2019 - Mueller all but confirmed that Trump committed obstruction of justice ... Opinion | With Mueller, Republicans and Democrats took two paths to ...

 

[JustAGuy1]

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”
Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance
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Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says

A former Ukrainian prosecutor who investigated a gas company tied to Hunter Biden said Thursday that there was no evidence the former vice president's son engaged in illegal activity.

"From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” Yuriy Lutsenko told The Washington Post.
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Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine
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Is there any evidence Old Joe pushed to have Shokin removed because of his kid's involvement with Burisma? No. How could there be since Shokin was not investigating Burisma? A fact that contributed to Shokin's dismissal demanded by the EU and the IMF for NOT adequately investigating corruption in Ukraine.

All the facts in evidence point to Trump's demand that an announcement be made the Bidens were being investigated by Ukraine had nothing to do with a realistic expectation anything nefarious would be found. Rather, Ukraine's acquiescence to conduct an investigation was what Don wanted because he knew it was enough to smear Biden.

Trump's belief has been borne out. Even though no investigation was launched and no evidence of wrongdoing exists millions of gullible rubes have it in their easily manipulated heads Biden is guilty of something............based on unsubstantiated innuendo.

View attachment 293587

The whole "politicians becoming millionaires while politicians" meme is really not that accurate. It just isn't that common and when it does happen, they usually either sign a big book deal (ala Biden) or marry into money.

LOL, uh....no.It happens much of the time.

 

[JustAGuy1]

CIA Sources like the CIA plants in The Whitehouse and Ukraine Embassy?

LMAO.

Or maybe like the Obama hacks in the FBI and DOJ that tried to stage a COUP?

FLIP.IT

Brett Kavanaugh Wrote That Hiding Evidence From Congress Is an Impeachable Offense
Law Professor Jonathan Turley, who was called before Congress this week by Republicans, argues that Donald Trump should not be impeached for using the courts to prevent Congress from obtaining …

What evidence to Trump hide from Congress?

You fn stupid shithead WHY do you think he told 6 of his ass kissers not to testify ??? Because he's innocent??

Yes, exactly. Why should he participate in his own lynching? You assholes just don't get it. You keep expecting to pretend that was is going on in Congress is some kind of fair process.

Why can't your lying AH trump prove his innocence? Why does he like you run like the traitor and coward you are?

Suck it up, OUR legal system is premised on "innocent until proven guilty". Stuff your BS cry baby.

 

[colfax_m]

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”
Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance
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Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says

A former Ukrainian prosecutor who investigated a gas company tied to Hunter Biden said Thursday that there was no evidence the former vice president's son engaged in illegal activity.

"From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” Yuriy Lutsenko told The Washington Post.
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Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine
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Is there any evidence Old Joe pushed to have Shokin removed because of his kid's involvement with Burisma? No. How could there be since Shokin was not investigating Burisma? A fact that contributed to Shokin's dismissal demanded by the EU and the IMF for NOT adequately investigating corruption in Ukraine.

All the facts in evidence point to Trump's demand that an announcement be made the Bidens were being investigated by Ukraine had nothing to do with a realistic expectation anything nefarious would be found. Rather, Ukraine's acquiescence to conduct an investigation was what Don wanted because he knew it was enough to smear Biden.

Trump's belief has been borne out. Even though no investigation was launched and no evidence of wrongdoing exists millions of gullible rubes have it in their easily manipulated heads Biden is guilty of something............based on unsubstantiated innuendo.

View attachment 293587

The whole "politicians becoming millionaires while politicians" meme is really not that accurate. It just isn't that common and when it does happen, they usually either sign a big book deal (ala Biden) or marry into money.

LOL, uh....no.It happens much of the time.

If you say so.