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There is nothing to debate because you couldn't list Paul's positions if your life depended on it.
Paul is winning in Iowa, second in NH... So if you base the fact that Paul is not winning off the fact that he is then you have a point, if you're a blind Paul hater.
Really Gramps, you're just pissed because youre a Newtie-bot and he had his 8 seconds in the sun and was rejected.
However, I'm still able to sya Newt can win the nomination. Why? Because I'm not some Newt hater.
He jumped on the bandwagon with every candidate that shot up in the polls.
He has no idea who he likes because he knows at the the end of the day there's nothing different about any of them.
I stopped supporting Cain on Oct 3rd (before he peaked in the polls). My support for Newt is tepid but still there. I have given no other support. Your full of it.
There is nothing to debate because you couldn't list Paul's positions if your life depended on it.
Paul is winning in Iowa, second in NH... So if you base the fact that Paul is not winning off the fact that he is then you have a point, if you're a blind Paul hater.
Really Gramps, you're just pissed because youre a Newtie-bot and he had his 8 seconds in the sun and was rejected.
However, I'm still able to sya Newt can win the nomination. Why? Because I'm not some Newt hater.
He jumped on the bandwagon with every candidate that shot up in the polls.
He has no idea who he likes because he knows at the the end of the day there's nothing different about any of them.
I stopped supporting Cain on Oct 3rd (before he peaked in the polls). My support for Newt is tepid but still there. I have given no other support. Your full of it.
There's nothing to debate as Paul can't and won't win.
The debate expanded beyond just Paul and into drug laws, and you have nothing to say for your desire for the government to decide what's best for the individual.
Probably because you recognize how much that flies in the face of freedom and conservatism and you're embarrassed.
The foundation of Paul's support are drug addicts.
He jumped on the bandwagon with every candidate that shot up in the polls.
He has no idea who he likes because he knows at the the end of the day there's nothing different about any of them.
I stopped supporting Cain on Oct 3rd (before he peaked in the polls). My support for Newt is tepid but still there. I have given no other support. Your full of it.
Well who knows, maybe Santorum or Bachman can win the nomination and legislate saying your prayers every night before going the bed and couples only using the missionary position with the lights off. That should fix all of America's really big problems.
The debate expanded beyond just Paul and into drug laws, and you have nothing to say for your desire for the government to decide what's best for the individual.
Probably because you recognize how much that flies in the face of freedom and conservatism and you're embarrassed.
The foundation of Paul's support are drug addicts.
Never touched the stuff, so that blows your theory. Man, that was easy.
Hope he doesn't leave mad. Just hope he leaves.
He gets 15% of the GOP nationally, and who knows how much he gets beyond the GOP. Most of his supporters will only support him and will never vote for any of the other candidates. Most will write him in, and much of the rest will just sit it out.
This is definitely the first time I've ever seen a candidate in one of the 2 major parties have this much support that is unique to only that candidate.
This will not be like Huckabee, or Edwards, or any other 2nd/3rd place candidate whose support will simply switch to whoever their party's nominee is.
This is 15% that the GOP can be guaranteed they won't be getting.
Whether you like Paul or not, you're fucked without him, and Obama is going to win.
Sleep tight
I stopped supporting Cain on Oct 3rd (before he peaked in the polls). My support for Newt is tepid but still there. I have given no other support. Your full of it.
Well who knows, maybe Santorum or Bachman can win the nomination and legislate saying your prayers every night before going the bed and couples only using the missionary position with the lights off. That should fix all of America's really big problems.
Besides the fact that I don't believe in god that's a really stupid post.
Carry on.
More like the logical place for warmongering, nation building, nanny statist, neo-Keynsean neocn douchebags in the GOP would be back to the Democrat Party, where they belong.He gets 15% of the GOP nationally, and who knows how much he gets beyond the GOP. Most of his supporters will only support him and will never vote for any of the other candidates. Most will write him in, and much of the rest will just sit it out.
This is definitely the first time I've ever seen a candidate in one of the 2 major parties have this much support that is unique to only that candidate.
This will not be like Huckabee, or Edwards, or any other 2nd/3rd place candidate whose support will simply switch to whoever their party's nominee is.
This is 15% that the GOP can be guaranteed they won't be getting.
Whether you like Paul or not, you're fucked without him, and Obama is going to win.
Sleep tight
The question is, how many of those 15% would follow him to a third party.
I think that would be largely dependent on how much Mitt Romney cheats to secure the nomination after Ron becomes the "AnybodyButRomney" candidate.
The logical place for Ron to go would be the Libertarian Party, but they are going to decide their race in May at a convention, which means he'll have to make a decision to drop out of the GOP race before it is done.
What really sticks out is that Paul claimed he wants drug laws left up to the states, not that he wants to legalize drugs. All Newt had to do was listen during the debates but that might be too far back in history for the great historian to look, guess this means Newt is not the smartest person in the room after all.
States that still have unfavorable majority views on drugs will continue keeping them illegal.
I disagree as the feeling is more "anyone but Obama" than "Paul or no one". Bozo the Clown would be better than giving Obama another 4 years. Hell, I'd even take Dubya back over Obama. Gary Johnson is going to withdraw from the Republican race and go Libertarian, but his numbers were so low, it won't make a difference in the final race.
He gets 15% of the GOP nationally, and who knows how much he gets beyond the GOP. Most of his supporters will only support him and will never vote for any of the other candidates. Most will write him in, and much of the rest will just sit it out.
This is definitely the first time I've ever seen a candidate in one of the 2 major parties have this much support that is unique to only that candidate.
This will not be like Huckabee, or Edwards, or any other 2nd/3rd place candidate whose support will simply switch to whoever their party's nominee is.
This is 15% that the GOP can be guaranteed they won't be getting.
Whether you like Paul or not, you're fucked without him, and Obama is going to win.
Sleep tight
This is the first American Research Group poll that has resulted in Mr. Paul finishing with the lead. His strongest support came from independent voters, as 33 percent of non partisan voters selected him, while Mr. Gingrich and Mr. Romney tied at 17 percent of independent voters in the poll.
Contrastingly, the race is tighter among registered Republican voters, 21 percent of whom chose Mr. Romney, with Mr. Gingrich at 20 percent and Mr. Paul at 17 percent.
I disagree as the feeling is more "anyone but Obama" than "Paul or no one". Bozo the Clown would be better than giving Obama another 4 years. Hell, I'd even take Dubya back over Obama. Gary Johnson is going to withdraw from the Republican race and go Libertarian, but his numbers were so low, it won't make a difference in the final race.
In the Libertarian circles I observe, many of them want to completely ignore the fact that Gary Johnson is running in 2012 on the Libertarian ticket. The only times Johnson gets a mention are the following:
1.) He should step down and endorse Ron Paul in 2012, and run in 2016.
2.) He would be a good Vice Presidential candidate for Ron Paul.
I've seen arguments that supporting Johnson in 2012 would be a dumb move because it takes votes away from Paul.
I have to wonder though whether or not they see the irony that they're using the same line of logic that I often see Libertarians criticize Democrats or Republicans making every election cycle about "wasting their vote".
Johnson isn't as strong as Paul in some areas to libertarians, namely foreign policy:
From his website: "The U.S. must make better use of military alliances which allow greater sharing of the human and financial burdens at less cost of protecting national interests."
Many of us don't condone "military alliances" whatsoever.
Johnson believes it "is important to have a strong defense both at home and abroad,"[14] and that the "military should remain the most potent force for good on Earth,"[17] but believes the greatest threat to national security at present is that "we're bankrupt."[3] He would include a 43% cut to the military's budget in his proposed balanced budget[3] by concentrating on defense, rather than offense.[3] He advocates making "better use of military alliances which allow greater sharing of the human and financial burdens at less cost of protecting national interests."[17]
