Constitutional Idiocies Produced by Fringe Ideologies

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    Here is an example of what I am talking about:
    The left and the right both do it.

    An ignorant and lazy understanding (using the Sarge's post as an example), of the Constitution in American public debate. Sarge, must have misread or been fed an idea that only the rights enumerated in the Constitution exist. Others are on the same diet of ignorance and laziness.

    Simple.
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    If there are more rights than what are explicitly stated, what prevents people from simply making up ridiculous rights?
     
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    That is part of the responsbilties the Founding Fathers left up to future generations. A healthy reading of the influences on the FF and their thoughts on matters makes it clear that they assumed certain rights not enumerated.

    Rights are what society and the courts agree on. When there is disagreement...the whole messy process of democracy kicks in. It is what we have been experiencing - a nation since day one.

    The FF were comprised of men with great and small differences who put aside most of those differences in order to perfect a more just and reasonable union.

    I my speech better than Fritz's?

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    So what rights do you have that are not in the Constitution?
     
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    The better question is...'What rights do I not have that are not prohibited in the Constitution?' That would seem to be the more relevant and pressing question since the government and 'factions' of the citizenry are usually trying to limit rights.
     
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    The Constitution confers no rights to anyone.

    All it does is provide a few and specifically enumerated and constrained powers to lawful de jure government, from "we the people" who have all the rights.
     
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    Who said 'confer'?

    The Constitution mentions rights enumerated . It also lays out the limitations of powers.

    what is your point?
     
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    Isn't prohibiting a right a bit of an oxy moron? But fine. Have it your way. Now answer the question.
     
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    I does not...It lays out a few areas in which lawful government may act and the limited powers to do so.

    The rights belong to the people, from which that government derives its very few and just powers.

    You really suck at early American history, Bubba.
     
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    It may seem like an oxymoron, but government and factions of the people are always trying to abridge rights and prohibit the exercise of rights.

    The question of yours...
    ...is ridiculously ignirant...and I am not on trial, am I? LOL

    Most all my rights are not listed in the Constitution. The FF assumed rational men of reason would understand what rights they possess.
     

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