Communists, Socialists, Fascists all agree.

Do we want freedom?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 100.0%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8
The majority did. The idiots got voted down. This country was founded to be free, period. Socialists don't like that fact but they go live in a socialist country and stop trying to screw this country up. Idiots.

This country was founded to a be run by an aristocracy of male, slaveholding landowners.
Socialists claim that because they hate the fact that we are a free society, which they hate. You are wrong.

I am not a socialist but I am right. Our founders did not free the slaves, protect the indigenous people, allow women to vote or hold office or allow just any man to vote. We corrected these shortcomings in their stunted idea of freedom and here we have a bunch of teabaggers who would be overjoyed to reverse that back to an era that was a comparative dark age of horror and oppression for those who had the bad luck to be born not white, not male or not wealthy.
 
This country was founded to a be run by an aristocracy of male, slaveholding landowners.
Socialists claim that because they hate the fact that we are a free society, which they hate. You are wrong.

I am not a socialist but I am right. Our founders did not free the slaves, protect the indigenous people, allow women to vote or hold office or allow just any man to vote. We corrected these shortcomings in their stunted idea of freedom and here we have a bunch of teabaggers who would be overjoyed to reverse that back to an era that was a comparative dark age of horror and oppression for those who had the bad luck to be born not white, not male or not wealthy.
You sound bitter...why? And I notice you ignored the Three-Fifths compromise post...WHY? History bother you that much?
 
Socialists claim that because they hate the fact that we are a free society, which they hate. You are wrong.

I am not a socialist but I am right. Our founders did not free the slaves, protect the indigenous people, allow women to vote or hold office or allow just any man to vote. We corrected these shortcomings in their stunted idea of freedom and here we have a bunch of teabaggers who would be overjoyed to reverse that back to an era that was a comparative dark age of horror and oppression for those who had the bad luck to be born not white, not male or not wealthy.
You sound bitter...why? And I notice you ignored the Three-Fifths compromise post...WHY? History bother you that much?

I am not bitter so much as irritated at people such as yourself who seem to think our founders were infallible prophets who had the answer to every problem this modern world faces. They got as much wrong as they got right, They were certainly on the right track but their thought processes were formed before the industrial revolution and therefore ill equipped to deal with problems stemming from industrialization.
 
I am not a socialist but I am right. Our founders did not free the slaves, protect the indigenous people, allow women to vote or hold office or allow just any man to vote. We corrected these shortcomings in their stunted idea of freedom and here we have a bunch of teabaggers who would be overjoyed to reverse that back to an era that was a comparative dark age of horror and oppression for those who had the bad luck to be born not white, not male or not wealthy.
You sound bitter...why? And I notice you ignored the Three-Fifths compromise post...WHY? History bother you that much?

I am not bitter so much as irritated at people such as yourself who seem to think our founders were infallible prophets who had the answer to every problem this modern world faces. They got as much wrong as they got right, They were certainly on the right track but their thought processes were formed before the industrial revolution and therefore ill equipped to deal with problems stemming from industrialization.
Infallible? No they weren't...they were HUMAN.

They gavve us a system yet to be matched anywhere in the world...but folks as YOU seem to want to take to places that have already been tried and have failed thinking YOU are going to do better...but get the same result.

No sir...YOU are confused and frustrated.
 
You sound bitter...why? And I notice you ignored the Three-Fifths compromise post...WHY? History bother you that much?

I am not bitter so much as irritated at people such as yourself who seem to think our founders were infallible prophets who had the answer to every problem this modern world faces. They got as much wrong as they got right, They were certainly on the right track but their thought processes were formed before the industrial revolution and therefore ill equipped to deal with problems stemming from industrialization.
Infallible? No they weren't...they were HUMAN.

They gavve us a system yet to be matched anywhere in the world...but folks as YOU seem to want to take to places that have already been tried and have failed thinking YOU are going to do better...but get the same result.

No sir...YOU are confused and frustrated.

They gave us a system flexible enough to change with the times, a wonderful tool to insure our freedoms through democracy. They did not give us a rigid document to be treated as a holy commandment, never to be sullied by mere mortals as ourselves. How much do you take on faith?
 
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Government needs to be sabotaged right back into line where the Founders meant it to be.

Which of the Founders? They didn't all agree on that, you know.
Sure they did...otherwise the Constitution wouldn't have been ratified...

Idiot.

Yup. It was written, agreed on and signed. No doubt a few weren't happy with the new concept of having freedom and liberty and likely hoped to shred it someday and rewrite it. Took a couple hundred years, but it's being attempted now.

To insist on socialism is to hate our consitution. Obama stated that our free market capitalist system doesn't work and never has. Glad he cleared that up so we know which side he is really on.

Also, there are no provisions for the government to do half the things they do, such as redistribute wealth.

While it seems reasonable to pay taxes for running the government, they were never intended to settle into careers that make them wealthy. The taxation is out of hand to fund all their programs, including health care, that is unconstitutional. Some aren't about to let a little thing like our constitution stop them from carrying out their agenda. They have the audacity to think they deserve to have more power and say over our lives than each of us.

And the fact that not paying taxes can result in people losing their property is wrong. I've seen people lose family homes after generations lived there due to falling behind in taxes.

The government sees to it that none of us ever really own anything. You pay forever long after the long mortgage payment.
 
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Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?
To keep the trend going vote democrat, and help live the ideals of progresso-socio-fascism and beat back the scourge of individual freedom and liberty this nation was unfortunately founded upon.

:rolleyes:
 
This country was founded to a be run by an aristocracy of male, slaveholding landowners.
Socialists claim that because they hate the fact that we are a free society, which they hate. You are wrong.

I am not a socialist but I am right. Our founders did not free the slaves, protect the indigenous people, allow women to vote or hold office or allow just any man to vote. We corrected these shortcomings in their stunted idea of freedom and here we have a bunch of teabaggers who would be overjoyed to reverse that back to an era that was a comparative dark age of horror and oppression for those who had the bad luck to be born not white, not male or not wealthy.

Yes, you are right. The founders were aristocrats who were upset with the kings monetary policy. The king was starving the colonies of currency because of high taxes. The founding of this nation was a tax revolt, which will probably repeat itself again.

That being said the aristocrats needed to get the people behind them, so they created the constitution. In truth throughout all American history the constitution has served as lip service to saying it is a free country. It has been circumvented, ignored, and dismissed over and over.

This changes nothing however. Two wrongs do not make a right. 200 years of wrong does not make a right. Relevancy of the constitution and the rule of law must be restored. The people demand the freedom they thought they were getting so long ago.
 
Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?
To keep the trend going vote democrat, and help live the ideals of progresso-socio-fascism and beat back the scourge of individual freedom and liberty this nation was unfortunately founded upon.

:rolleyes:

This trend was accelerated under republican rule. Corporate liberals permeate both political parties. Partisan citizens are idiotic sheep who cant see reality right infront of them. We have two different business parties to choose from.
 
Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?
To keep the trend going vote democrat, and help live the ideals of progresso-socio-fascism and beat back the scourge of individual freedom and liberty this nation was unfortunately founded upon.

:rolleyes:

Oustanding post...Nailed.
 
Which of the Founders? They didn't all agree on that, you know.
Sure they did...otherwise the Constitution wouldn't have been ratified...

Idiot.

Yup. It was written, agreed on and signed. No doubt a few weren't happy with the new concept of having freedom and liberty and likely hoped to shred it someday and rewrite it. Took a couple hundred years, but it's being attempted now.

To insist on socialism is to hate our consitution. Obama stated that our free market capitalist system doesn't work and never has. Glad he cleared that up so we know which side he is really on.

Also, there are no provisions for the government to do half the things they do, such as redistribute wealth.

While it seems reasonable to pay taxes for running the government, they were never intended to settle into careers that make them wealthy. The taxation is out of hand to fund all their programs, including health care, that is unconstitutional. Some aren't about to let a little thing like our constitution stop them from carrying out their agenda. They have the audacity to think they deserve to have more power and say over our lives than each of us.

And the fact that not paying taxes can result in people losing their property is wrong. I've seen people lose family homes after generations lived there due to falling behind in taxes.

The government sees to it that none of us ever really own anything. You pay forever long after the long mortgage payment.
I'm outta rep. Owed...
 
Its been a good year.



40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?
To keep the trend going vote democrat, and help live the ideals of progresso-socio-fascism and beat back the scourge of individual freedom and liberty this nation was unfortunately founded upon.

:rolleyes:

This trend was accelerated under republican rule. Corporate liberals permeate both political parties. Partisan citizens are idiotic sheep who cant see reality right infront of them. We have two different business parties to choose from.

Regardless of RULE at the time? YOU see the need to cease the stranglehold of BOTH.
 
I am not bitter so much as irritated at people such as yourself who seem to think our founders were infallible prophets who had the answer to every problem this modern world faces. They got as much wrong as they got right, They were certainly on the right track but their thought processes were formed before the industrial revolution and therefore ill equipped to deal with problems stemming from industrialization.
Infallible? No they weren't...they were HUMAN.

They gavve us a system yet to be matched anywhere in the world...but folks as YOU seem to want to take to places that have already been tried and have failed thinking YOU are going to do better...but get the same result.

No sir...YOU are confused and frustrated.

They gave us a system flexible enough to change with the times, a wonderful tool to insure our freedoms through democracy. They did not give us a rigid document to be treated as a holy commandment, never to be sullied by mere mortals as ourselves. How much do you take on faith?
FLEXIBLE but ill advised which is why the amendment process is so difficult, and we have legislators that would rather skirt it rather than follow the letter of the law.

Again? YOU are transparent.

Nice of me to help you along, wasn't it?

:badgrin:
 
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Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?

I agree. We want to be free. The right wing has got to stop legislating "Women's rights". They have to stop attacking the gays. The country will never be free as long as we let these faux Jesus freaks try to run our lives. The last 20 years has shown they can't run a pogo stick. Letting them run anything is merely inviting disaster.
 
Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?

I agree. We want to be free. The right wing has got to stop legislating "Women's rights". They have to stop attacking the gays. The country will never be free as long as we let these faux Jesus freaks try to run our lives. The last 20 years has shown they can't run a pogo stick. Letting them run anything is merely inviting disaster.
Which is WHY social issues should be left to the ninth and tenth amendments eh deany?

Fucktard.
 
Government needs to be sabotaged right back into line where the Founders meant it to be.

Which of the Founders? They didn't all agree on that, you know.
The majority did. The idiots got voted down. This country was founded to be free, period. Socialists don't like that fact but they go live in a socialist country and stop trying to screw this country up. Idiots.

You are ending the year on an especially stupid note, aren't you?
 
Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?

I agree. We want to be free. The right wing has got to stop legislating "Women's rights". They have to stop attacking the gays. The country will never be free as long as we let these faux Jesus freaks try to run our lives. The last 20 years has shown they can't run a pogo stick. Letting them run anything is merely inviting disaster.
We won't be free with the socialist dimwits in either. And your fake hate towards Christians is stupid as you are. Gay rights are evil and no one is telling women what to do, we just don't think the murder of unborn children is a right. If a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, don't have sex and use abortion as birth control. Side note, contrary to popular belief, the father of the child DOES have a say!!!
 

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