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zcxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzThese proposals probably won't be implemented within the next two years, due to the NRA's monetary sway over the current congress. As we move forward towards a saner society, though, this should be the loosest standards for gun laws in the country:
1. ---- Rifles cannot be automatic, and must not have any military features such as a pistol grip, a vertical grip, buffer tube, barrel shroud, holosight, detachable magazine, etc. No high powered ammo such as any bullets used by the military should be allowed. Also, clips must only come in five bullets or less.
---- You don't need more than five bullets to shoot a deer. You don't need anti-tank ammo to shoot a deer. Could somebody please tell me why .22 caliber doesn't work for hunting?
---- Trying to overthrow a tyrannical government? You are paranoid and should have your guns confiscated.
2. Shotguns can only shoot two bullets at a time. They cannot use clips to reload, but must be manually reloaded. Also, no military grade calibers are allowed.
--- Why do you need more than two bullets at a time to kill a deer?
--- Trying to overthrow the government? You are paranoid and should lose your gun privileges forever.
3. A ban on handguns for anybody besides for security guards, police, and military. Also, a complete ban on carrying guns outside the home, unless hunting or at the range.
--- A handgun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill you than a criminal, according to Arthur Kellermann.
--- Trying to be a big man and save the world with your gun while out shopping? You are paranoid and should not be able to own guns.
4. A mandatory background check, and one month waiting purchase for all gun purchases.
--- It will be a lot harder for the black market to function if illegal buyers are eliminated through background checks and have to wait a month before getting their guns. No more buying a gun out of the trunk of a car in a dark alley.
5. Nobody under the age of 21 is allowed to handle a firearm. No if, and's, or buts about it. Not while hunting, not while at the range, nothing. Only exceptions are for military recruits.
6. A proper interpretation of the second amendment, which talks clearly about well regulated militias, aka the national guard, not any random Joe off the street. And don't give the that bs about the Heller decision. That was an awful decision, like plessy v. ferguson or dredd scott, which can, must, and will be repealed.
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zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxWhat if, before a gun is ever sold they fire it and register the unique markings it's made when fired?
These proposals probably won't be implemented within the next two years, due to the NRA's monetary sway over the current congress. As we move forward towards a saner society, though, this should be the loosest standards for gun laws in the country:
1. ---- Rifles cannot be automatic, and must not have any military features such as a pistol grip, a vertical grip, buffer tube, barrel shroud, holosight, detachable magazine, etc. No high powered ammo such as any bullets used by the military should be allowed. Also, clips must only come in five bullets or less.
---- You don't need more than five bullets to shoot a deer. You don't need anti-tank ammo to shoot a deer. Could somebody please tell me why .22 caliber doesn't work for hunting?
---- Trying to overthrow a tyrannical government? You are paranoid and should have your guns confiscated.
2. Shotguns can only shoot two bullets at a time. They cannot use clips to reload, but must be manually reloaded. Also, no military grade calibers are allowed.
--- Why do you need more than two bullets at a time to kill a deer?
--- Trying to overthrow the government? You are paranoid and should lose your gun privileges forever.
3. A ban on handguns for anybody besides for security guards, police, and military. Also, a complete ban on carrying guns outside the home, unless hunting or at the range.
--- A handgun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill you than a criminal, according to Arthur Kellermann.
--- Trying to be a big man and save the world with your gun while out shopping? You are paranoid and should not be able to own guns.
4. A mandatory background check, and one month waiting purchase for all gun purchases.
--- It will be a lot harder for the black market to function if illegal buyers are eliminated through background checks and have to wait a month before getting their guns. No more buying a gun out of the trunk of a car in a dark alley.
5. Nobody under the age of 21 is allowed to handle a firearm. No if, and's, or buts about it. Not while hunting, not while at the range, nothing. Only exceptions are for military recruits.
6. A proper interpretation of the second amendment, which talks clearly about well regulated militias, aka the national guard, not any random Joe off the street. And don't give the that bs about the Heller decision. That was an awful decision, like plessy v. ferguson or dredd scott, which can, must, and will be repealed.
These proposals probably won't be implemented within the next two years, due to the NRA's monetary sway over the current congress. As we move forward towards a saner society, though, this should be the loosest standards for gun laws in the country:
1. ---- Rifles cannot be automatic, and must not have any military features such as a pistol grip, a vertical grip, buffer tube, barrel shroud, holosight, detachable magazine, etc. No high powered ammo such as any bullets used by the military should be allowed. Also, clips must only come in five bullets or less.
---- You don't need more than five bullets to shoot a deer. You don't need anti-tank ammo to shoot a deer. Could somebody please tell me why .22 caliber doesn't work for hunting?
---- Trying to overthrow a tyrannical government? You are paranoid and should have your guns confiscated.
2. Shotguns can only shoot two bullets at a time. They cannot use clips to reload, but must be manually reloaded. Also, no military grade calibers are allowed.
--- Why do you need more than two bullets at a time to kill a deer?
--- Trying to overthrow the government? You are paranoid and should lose your gun privileges forever.
3. A ban on handguns for anybody besides for security guards, police, and military. Also, a complete ban on carrying guns outside the home, unless hunting or at the range.
--- A handgun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill you than a criminal, according to Arthur Kellermann.
--- Trying to be a big man and save the world with your gun while out shopping? You are paranoid and should not be able to own guns.
4. A mandatory background check, and one month waiting purchase for all gun purchases.
--- It will be a lot harder for the black market to function if illegal buyers are eliminated through background checks and have to wait a month before getting their guns. No more buying a gun out of the trunk of a car in a dark alley.
5. Nobody under the age of 21 is allowed to handle a firearm. No if, and's, or buts about it. Not while hunting, not while at the range, nothing. Only exceptions are for military recruits.
6. A proper interpretation of the second amendment, which talks clearly about well regulated militias, aka the national guard, not any random Joe off the street. And don't give the that bs about the Heller decision. That was an awful decision, like plessy v. ferguson or dredd scott, which can, must, and will be repealed.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxxz---- You don't need more than five bullets to shoot a deer. You don't need anti-tank ammo to shoot a deer. Could somebody please tell me why .22 caliber doesn't work for hunting?
You don't "need" porn, either. So I suggest we just ban it. Common sense.
Porn doesn't kill 30,000 innocent people a year.
---- You don't need more than five bullets to shoot a deer. You don't need anti-tank ammo to shoot a deer. Could somebody please tell me why .22 caliber doesn't work for hunting?
You don't "need" porn, either. So I suggest we just ban it. Common sense.
---- You don't need more than five bullets to shoot a deer. You don't need anti-tank ammo to shoot a deer. Could somebody please tell me why .22 caliber doesn't work for hunting?
Thank you for admitting your utter ignorance, by the way.
If you were hunting a deer with a .22, you are probably going to need more than five bullets, and you are going to make the creature suffer needlessly.
What? Not if you shoot the deer in the eye... Or you could sneak up behind it and out one behind the ear...
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxHere's a better idea. Instead of registering guns, we register gun buyers. Once you pass a background check, you can buy as many guns as you like, or not buy any guns. You'll be on the approved list. Your purchases will be your business, not the government's.
You go to a gun shop, the gun shop owner sees if you are a registered approved buyer, and then only he and you know what guns you bought.
That works!
Or maybe let's have common sense gun laws banning assault rifles and handguns to keep our children safe
xzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxNobody has explained to me how any of my proposals are flawed yet.
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x.x.x.x.x.x.x.x.We don't need to explain anything. It is obvious you don't have a clue about guns. Stick to something you know about.
A careful reading of the suggested common sense gun control measures shows that not only does the writer not understand the constitution, but also has a poor knowledge of firearms. You could make a better case that the constitution requires the common man to have all the weapons that the military uses. At the time it was written there was not much difference in the weapons held in private hands and what the military issued. In that case I need to know where I can get an Abrams.
One thing that the OP seems to be missing, and that is that guns used for murders are a relatively rare thing, when you consider how many guns and gun owners there are.
There are roughly 65 million legal gun owners and 300 million legally owned guns. The majority of the gun murders (between 8k and 9k annually) are by people who cannot legally own a gun. Even if (and they are not) the murders were committed by legal gun owners, it would only constitute 0.013% of the gun owners.
The problem is not the guns. It is the criminals.
Actually the problem is that criminals have access to guns.
And restricting law abiding citizens access to guns will not change that any more than making drugs illegal made them inaccessible to criminals.
And it is the criminal that makes the gun dangerous.
One thing that the OP seems to be missing, and that is that guns used for murders are a relatively rare thing, when you consider how many guns and gun owners there are.
There are roughly 65 million legal gun owners and 300 million legally owned guns. The majority of the gun murders (between 8k and 9k annually) are by people who cannot legally own a gun. Even if (and they are not) the murders were committed by legal gun owners, it would only constitute 0.013% of the gun owners.
The problem is not the guns. It is the criminals.
Actually the problem is that criminals have access to guns.
And restricting law abiding citizens access to guns will not change that any more than making drugs illegal made them inaccessible to criminals.
And it is the criminal that makes the gun dangerous.
I wasn't proposing any regulations that prevent law abiding citizens from having access to guns.
A better solution is to eliminate parole for any offense committed with a weapon. Criminals aren't stupid. If they figure out that they are going to be locked up for longer periods because they used a gun to commit a crime they will find other ways to get what they want that don't involve guns. Yes, there are some that will continue to use them for "defense" just as law abiding citizens do but I am talking about the use of guns in robberies. If you can significant'y reduce those then the risk to civilians goes way down. It also reduces the risks for the cops.
One thing that the OP seems to be missing, and that is that guns used for murders are a relatively rare thing, when you consider how many guns and gun owners there are.
There are roughly 65 million legal gun owners and 300 million legally owned guns. The majority of the gun murders (between 8k and 9k annually) are by people who cannot legally own a gun. Even if (and they are not) the murders were committed by legal gun owners, it would only constitute 0.013% of the gun owners.
The problem is not the guns. It is the criminals.
Actually the problem is that criminals have access to guns.
And restricting law abiding citizens access to guns will not change that any more than making drugs illegal made them inaccessible to criminals.
And it is the criminal that makes the gun dangerous.
I wasn't proposing any regulations that prevent law abiding citizens from having access to guns.
A better solution is to eliminate parole for any offense committed with a weapon. Criminals aren't stupid. If they figure out that they are going to be locked up for longer periods because they used a gun to commit a crime they will find other ways to get what they want that don't involve guns. Yes, there are some that will continue to use them for "defense" just as law abiding citizens do but I am talking about the use of guns in robberies. If you can significant'y reduce those then the risk to civilians goes way down. It also reduces the risks for the cops.
how about ending parole period
ioioioioioioioioiWhat if, before a gun is ever sold they fire it and register the unique markings it's made when fired?
Useless. Marking change with wear, barrels get replaced. (My Model 29 is on at least its third.) Shotguns have no ballistics.So it would literally be useless, or the gun owner would have to make an effort to change the markings?No they catch the criminal in the act in possession.Really? So when the police catch a criminal because he's in possession of a gun used in a crime it's because he didn't clean it afterwards?Because every time you clean the weapon it changes those marks.What if, before a gun is ever sold they fire it and register the unique markings it's made when fired?
I'm asking. We have guns but my husband keeps them clean and oiled.
I dont know about changing the marks with every cleaning. You'd have to clean the gun with steel wool and rasps.
But defeating the unique marking isnt hard.
Can changing the markings be detected, like filing off the serial numbers?
lol right on. My questions were innocent and legit. This thread has been very educational for meioioioioioioioioiWhat if, before a gun is ever sold they fire it and register the unique markings it's made when fired?
Useless. Marking change with wear, barrels get replaced. (My Model 29 is on at least its third.) Shotguns have no ballistics.So it would literally be useless, or the gun owner would have to make an effort to change the markings?No they catch the criminal in the act in possession.Really? So when the police catch a criminal because he's in possession of a gun used in a crime it's because he didn't clean it afterwards?Because every time you clean the weapon it changes those marks.What if, before a gun is ever sold they fire it and register the unique markings it's made when fired?
I'm asking. We have guns but my husband keeps them clean and oiled.
I dont know about changing the marks with every cleaning. You'd have to clean the gun with steel wool and rasps.
But defeating the unique marking isnt hard.
Can changing the markings be detected, like filing off the serial numbers?
ooooh lord how i wish that phrase could be banned from anyone using it, "filing off S/N's" is stupid, most guns that i know of makes it near impossible to accomplish that feat, besides.., if the number is "filed" off the imprint of that S/N is still imbedded very deeply and can be brought to the surface using newly developed (about 1960) process using chemicals/acid.
when i hear that term, filing off the serial numbers on TV crime and cop shows i start yelling at the TV.., it is near IMPOSSIBLE to completely obliterate a S/N
