Columnist Charles Krauthammer and the Neo-cons

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    It is frightening to think people like Columnist Charles Krauthammer represent the current administration viewpoints to national and global policies and security. The amount of hate and contempt for others that have a different philosophical foundation to their principles and believes is no different than a fascist. Columnist Charles Krauthammer is a leading national columnist for the neo-cons doctrine of dominance. Speaking in contempt against the United Nations or any other international organizations in behalf of United States domination in a militarily dictatorial role. All is right, disguised in the name of freedom and democracy with the neo-cons taking the religious high road to condom anyone who does not believe in their ways.

    The Bush Cheney neo-cons have a clear vision of the corporate military dominance that will dictate international policies regarding international resources as part of United States national security. With many of the Islamic nations being a road bump in this plan. The American Enterprise Institute, one of the bases of the neo-cons use to guide and influence the Bush Cheney administration towards global dominance by military and economic policies.

    The corporate greed of a few people is dictating global policies onto the people of the world for what is in the best of there own self-interest. These policies are threatening peace and security throughout the world. The lack of balance in fairness and truth has corrupted the system from within leading the wrong way in many of our policies and actions around the world. Without correcting our domestic policies at home there will be no foreign policies that will bring us security and peace around the world.

    The neo-cons, people such as Columnist Charles Krauthammer see no role what so ever for the role of international organizations like the United Nations. Without a balance between universal, national and local interests power there will be no stability or security for the people on either side. As long as we want to dictate policies to our allies and enemy from a unilateral platform from Washington DC for what is in the best interest of a few global corporations. There will be great social, political, and economic unrest destabilizing
     
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    Your beliefs are what lead to Sept. 11th..
    By what you have written you are clearly a communist who would rely on the decisions of others to dictate the policies of The United States... Very similar to having no right to vote at all since the exercise of your franchise would be superceded by unelected international decision making body..
    Completely undemocratic which dovetails into your being a communist...
     
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    look, another good McCarthyite foaming at the mouth about words he doesn't even understand.
     
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    Yeah the Bush administration is so mirroroed to fascism. Get real find a differentlabel for neo-cons. we preach tolerence to others but we also have the consitution to stand up and defend our views. In defending our views we point out faults in the other sides arguments. That doesn't make us fascist.

    Oh yeah the UN is the only thing stoping the world from falling under the "tyranical" rule of the big bad bush administration.:rolleyes: Get real the only problem we have with the UN or any other international orginazation is that we don't need permision or concensous to act in our intersts. You know they (NGO's and the UN and international community) never fail to call on the US for every thing and when a problem accurs in the world the US has to fix it. However, when we want to act we need thier permission. Give me a break.

    Holy shit man were in the world does this come from. The neo-cons have no asparations of global control. To think so is to buy into what ever garbage your reading.

    Wow this is a totally comunism. There is no hidding it here sorry Bry but Phadras was right this guy is a commy.

    actually a strong millitary and the will to use it will keep us safe, at home and abroud.

    only in the countries who don't follow our lead. i.e terorist countries and the countries who try to proliferate WMD's.:tank:
     
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    ok, KC,

    David may or may not be "communist". Stating that he is does not constitute an argument on your part. I cannot see how it is acceptable in any case to substitute substantive argument for labeling someone with such emotionally laden monikers as "communist" or, conversely, "fascist". (of course, it happens at both ends of the political spectrum. I do not mean to say that only the right engages in such tactics...) You do well to dispute his use of the word "fascist", but then you turn around and do the same thing, calling him "communist". If you disagree with someone, wouldn't it be much more powerful to actually dispute their arguments rather than resorting to a rather childish name calling? IMHO, it would be much more effective to dispute his loosely defended allegations with counter-evidence or providing an alternative reading of the facts he presents.

    On the other hand, David doesn't seem to be actually engaged in debate here. It appears that he does alot of cutting and pasting with his barely intelligible posts, and doesn't bother to defend his posts when people do make substantive rebuttals. So, while you do provide an argument as to why you think the UN is neither functional nor beneficial, I wouldn't hold your breath for a rebuttal from Dave either.

    For my part, I agree that the UN needs to be overhauled to prevent an overdependence on the US for enforcing their decisions but also to soften the over-representation which members of the Security Council enjoy. On the other hand, a forum in which the international community can discuss their differences on issues that frequently affect many nations, not just one, appears to me both necessary and beneficial. So, while flawed, the UN (IMHO) fills a necessary role, and their decisions regarding the invasion of Iraq should have been respected. The US would have done well to mount diplomatic pressure and consolidate their position rather than rushing to invade on the pretense of neutralizing what most now agree was a less than imminent threat.

    The indiscriminate use of the military has the effect of destablizing the international community, effect which can only benefit the terrorists we claim we are at war with.
     
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    You are right to lable the man a "commy" takes from my argument. However, the man is pitting Marxist doctrine to the T. How about I call him a Marxist is that a more appealing and intellectual term. Becasuse as you can see this guy is a Marxist I'm sure even you can agree to this Bry:)

    The UN had it's chance to put the diplomatic pressure on Saddam. They failed from 91-03 they enacted resoulution after resolution. The man did not care. The only thing that brought change was the US army. It was unfourtunate but that man could not stay in power any longer.
     
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    it is my belief that david uses his post for some sort of school report.....if this is the case...brilliant...but without more from him this will die as do all of his post..a quick death
     
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    Krauthammer... that's an appropriate name for a Jew.
     
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    What does this have to do with anything said in this topic. You guys and race. Have you looked at world pop. lalely. Were pretty outnumbered. You better learn to get along.

    Don't hate somebody because of the color of thier skin or thier God. Hate them for thier actions or thier words.
    you never get a 2nd chance at a first impression
     
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    May I also note that Charles is a quadrapalegic, a horryfying medical condition which of course is paralysis from the neck down... A condition my late uncle suffered through for 35 years.. Go find someone else to attack.. Geeeez the left is truly insane and heartless..
     

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