Coal and Oil are NOT 'Fossil Fuels'

[Old Rocks]

Riiiighhhht....and people rode on the backs of dinosaurs, the earth is only six thousand years old, the earth is flat, it's the center of the universe and dinosaurs and unicorns were unable to get onto the Ark.

Who said that dumbass? Oil was NOT produced from decaying dinosaurs. This topic has NOTHING to do with your diversion.

No, dumb ass, nor has any scientist ever said that. It was produced from single celled life buried in organic sediment.

 

[Old Rocks]

Geochemistry Research


ORGANIC ORIGINS OF PETROLEUM



Petroleum is a naturally occurring substance consisting of organic compounds in the form of gas, liquid, or semisolid. Organic compounds are carbon molecules that are bound to hydrogen (e.g., hydrocarbons) and to a lesser extent sulfur, oxygen, or nitrogen. The simplest of these compounds is methane with one carbon atom bound to four hydrogen atoms (Figure 1). Asphaltenes are the most complex with more than 136 carbon atoms bound to more than 167 hydrogen atoms, 3 nitrogen atoms, 2 oxygen atoms, and 2 sulfur atoms (Figure 1). Petroleum gas is referred to as natural gas, which should not be confused with the abbreviated term used to describe the refined fuel "gasoline". Natural gas consists predominantly of simple hydrocarbons with only one to five carbon atoms (i.e., methane to pentane, respectively, Figure 1). Liquid petroleum is referred to as crude oil and consists of a wide range of more complex hydrocarbons and minor quantities of asphaltenes (Figure 1). Semisolid petroleum is tar, which is dominated by larger complex hydrocarbons and asphaltenes (Figure 1).

Figure 1. Some examples of organic compounds in petroleum, from the simplest (methane) to the most complex (asphaltene).

Petroleum formation takes place in sedimentary basins, which are areas where the Earth's crust subsides and sediments accumulate within the resulting depression. As the sedimentary basin continues to subside, sediment accumulations continue to fill the depression. This results in a thickening sequence of sediment layers in which the lower sediment layers eventually solidify into sedimentary rocks as they experience greater pressures and temperatures with burial depth. The sediment layers that accumulate vary in character because the sources and depositional settings of the sediments change through geologic time as the sedimentary basin subsides and fills. It is critical to petroleum formation that at some time during the accumulation of sediments at least one of the sediment layers contains the remains of deceased plants or microorganisms. Throughout geologic time, the world oceans have expanded and receded over the Earth’s land surfaces and contributed sediment layers to subsiding sedimentary basins. Development of stagnant water conditions in some of the expanded oceans caused the bottom waters to be depleted in oxygen (anoxic), which allowed portions of decaying plankton (e.g., algae, copepods, bacteria, and archaea) that originally lived in the upper oxygen-bearing (oxic) waters to be preserved as a sediment layer enriched in organic matter (Figure 2). Swamps and marshes may also develop marginal to oceans overlying subsiding basins. In these depositional settings, sediment layers enriched in decaying land plants (e.g., trees, shrubs, and grasses) may occur.

As these organic-rich sediment layers are buried by deposition of overlying sediments in the subsiding basin, the sediments are compressed and eventually lithified into rocks referred to as black shale, bituminous limestone, or coal. Methane producing microorganisms referred to as methanogens may thrive under certain favorable conditions within the organic-rich sediment layer during its early burial. These microorganisms consume portions of the organic matter as a food source and generate methane as a byproduct. This methane, which is typically the main hydrocarbon in natural gas, has a distinct neutron deficiency in its carbon nuclei (i.e., carbon isotopes), which allows microbial natural gas (a.k.a., biogenic gas) to be readily distinguished from methane generated by thermal processes (a.k.a., thermogenic gas) later in a basin's subsidence history. The microbial methane may remain in the organic-rich layer or it may bubble up into the overlying sediment layers and escape into the ocean waters or atmosphere. If impermeable sediment layers, called seals, hinder the upward migration of microbial gas, the gas may collect in underlying porous sediments, called reservoirs (Figure 3).
Geochemistry Research - Organic Origins of Petroleum, USGS: Energy Resources Program

Here is what the real experts say. Not dingbats on the internet, but the people actively engaged in seeking oil and natural gas.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Riiiighhhht....and people rode on the backs of dinosaurs, the earth is only six thousand years old, the earth is flat, it's the center of the universe and dinosaurs and unicorns were unable to get onto the Ark.

Who said that dumbass? Oil was NOT produced from decaying dinosaurs. This topic has NOTHING to do with your diversion.

Yes, oil was produced by decaying biomass. You and Francis live on the fantasy fringes of reality.

Tell us how dinosaurs got to Titan.

Signed,

All ears in NY

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If you think about it, dinosaurs must have lived on Saturn's moon Titan for a billion years before they migrated to Earth. The surface temperature on Titan is a couple of hundred degrees below zero so it would have taken an extra billion years to transform the dinosaurs into fossil fuels there.

I also wonder why intelligent life hasn't "evolved" on Titan either. It has sunlight, a liquid medium and gobs of raw materials. Does the force of "Evolution" not reach all the way out to Titan?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Tell us how dinosaurs got to Titan.

Nobody has to do that, is it is not the same type of oil. Which you might know, if your lazy ass had read a single word of the article this thread is about.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Tell us how dinosaurs got to Titan.

Nobody has to do that, is it is not the same type of oil. Which you might know, if your lazy ass had read a single word of the article this thread is about.

Methane and ethane on Titan are different than on Earth?

Are you sure?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Tell us how dinosaurs got to Titan.

Nobody has to do that, is it is not the same type of oil. Which you might know, if your lazy ass had read a single word of the article this thread is about.

Methane and ethane on Titan are different than on Earth?

Are you sure?

Coal and oil are not methane and ethane, genius.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Tell us how dinosaurs got to Titan.

Nobody has to do that, is it is not the same type of oil. Which you might know, if your lazy ass had read a single word of the article this thread is about.

Methane and ethane on Titan are different than on Earth?

Are you sure?

Coal and oil are not methane and ethane, genius.

So you weren't referring to the above article that did discuss methane?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Tell us how dinosaurs got to Titan.

Nobody has to do that, is it is not the same type of oil. Which you might know, if your lazy ass had read a single word of the article this thread is about.

Methane and ethane on Titan are different than on Earth?

Are you sure?

Coal and oil are not methane and ethane, genius.

So you weren't referring to the above article that did discuss methane?

Of course I was. Francis, you are not keeping up, here

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

No, dumb ass, nor has any scientist ever said that. It was produced from single celled life buried in organic sediment.

Liar!

Short version: Growing plants use the sun’s energy and simple chemicals to make more plants, and animals “burn” the plants to get that stored energy from the sun. Almost everything that grows is burned, but in special cases some plants are buried without oxygen, escaping burning. Time and heat turn these buried plants into fossil fuels.

Origins of Oil, Coal and Gas | EARTH 104: Earth and the Environment



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[Old Rocks]

No, dumb ass, nor has any scientist ever said that. It was produced from single celled life buried in organic sediment.

Liar!

Short version: Growing plants use the sun’s energy and simple chemicals to make more plants, and animals “burn” the plants to get that stored energy from the sun. Almost everything that grows is burned, but in special cases some plants are buried without oxygen, escaping burning. Time and heat turn these buried plants into fossil fuels.

Origins of Oil, Coal and Gas | EARTH 104: Earth and the Environment



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LOL Stupid ass. Look at the short video with Richard Alley explaining how coal and oil are formed. The plants that form oil are single celled organisms. LOL

Origins of Oil, Coal and Gas | EARTH 104: Earth and the Environment

 

[LuckyDuck]

Riiiighhhht....and people rode on the backs of dinosaurs, the earth is only six thousand years old, the earth is flat, it's the center of the universe and dinosaurs and unicorns were unable to get onto the Ark.

Who said that dumbass? Oil was NOT produced from decaying dinosaurs. This topic has NOTHING to do with your diversion.

I never said that dinosaurs were the source of oil, although the source was millions of years of decaying vegetation.