CNN Poll of Polls: McCain's convention bounce gone

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    Well golly gee Robbie, what happened to Obama's bounce?

    :rofl:

    RCP has McCain up in the electoral college. White women are switching to McCain in droves. Independents are switching to McCain in droves. Swing states and (what were thougt to be) SOLID BLUE states are swinging towards McCain. Cluck about CNN's average all you want, but when MN, WI, and PA are within the MOE and McCain's within 5 points in New fricken' Jersey - Libtard Central - it ain't looking good your precious little Messiah :clap2:

    By the way, do you have any friends or hobbies? Go watch Power Rangers or something.
     
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    Palin's favorable unfavorable rating went down 10 pts since saturday.

    She lied about her teleprompter not working when it worked fine.

    These people are just sleezy.
     
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    Obama's bounce got equaled out by the McCain Bounce.

    RCP has McCain up in the electoral college but that doesn't mean he is ahead in the polls. All that stuff your throwing out there doesn't matter until November 4th. Then we'll see who is right.

    I have both friends and hobbies thank you.

    Power Rangers though? Cute but no thanks.
     
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    RealClearPolitics - RealClearPolitics Poll Averages

    Before the convention he was 3 points down. Now he is 1.3 points up. Looks like it is still dead even and I wasn't a math major or anything, but that is still a positive bounce. It has tailed, but not disappeared.
     
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    McCain and Palin can't hide from the people forever.

    Sooner or later the will have to answer questions unscripted.

    Of course McCain's answer to every question will be a noun, a verb, and "POW."

    How could someone claim to be ready to be the most powerful person in the world, when they are too afraid to answer a question from the Columbus Post Dispatch?
     
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    Wishful thinking. I hope you don't believe that is true just because the national polls show McCain with an overall smaller lead over Obama than before. Because what is happening in the most important states is a totally different story. National polls don't count for squat because the election is decided by electoral votes.

    For the first time, McCain exceeds Obama in the number of firm electoral votes -227 to 207. Worse yet there are now way too many states that were once for Obama are now toss-ups, states that were toss-ups are now leaning for McCain, states that were leaning McCain are now firmly McCain. None that have gone the other way. And that shift that started at McCain's convention hasn't slowed down at all. Doesn't look good for Obama and he knows it -which is why he is doing something unusual. He's now using a teleprompter at town hall meetings where he is supposed to be answering "impromptu" questions from the audience but is obviously reading from a telepromter in response to a plant's "question" and even using a teleprompter at his campaign rallies. This was reported by CNN. He obviously believes he NEEDS to in order to avoid another misstep, slip of the tongue or major gaffe - because he just can't afford one.

    The number of states left that in combination can give Obama that magic number of 270 electoral votes is slipping away. McCain has only increased his lead in Ohio, is ahead by 7 points in Florida -Obama isn't going to win either of those. Without losing any other states firmly in his column right now -Obama was already in an "either-or" situation where he had to either win Pennsylvania -OR win all three Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. At that time, if Obama were to lose Pennsylvania and any one of those three western states, he loses. But even that has now changed. And he is down to his only possible combination left in order to win -and even that one is looking dimmer too.

    On Sept. 9th, Obama led in Pennsylvania by 3 points. Now McCain and Obama are in a dead tie there. In Colorado Obama led McCain by 4 points just 4 days ago. Now its a dead tie as well. While Obama led in Nevada by 5 points in August, McCain leads there by 2 now -pulling away from the dead tie it was just a few days ago. Obama led in New Mexico by 13 points in August. McCain now leads by there by 3.

    Obama's new reality is that Pennsylvania is a dead tie -and he is likely going to lose 2 of those 3 western states. In the meantime, McCain is looking to increasing his numbers in Pennsylvania, firming up his lead in those western states -and hopes to also flip Iowa away from Obama as well. Iowa has moved from firm Obama to leaning towards Obama. So it isn't McCain scrambling to hold on to states that have been in his column all along. Its Obama.

    Democrats all know Obama is in serious trouble -you can hear it from all the Democrats who once declared McCain's campaign efforts to be useless since he was "dead in the water". And unlike a lot of people here, they know the real story is in the state-by-state analysis, not national polls. No candidate wants to have to spend precious time and money trying to shore up support in states he thought he already had a lock on that are now slipping away. There are only 48 days to the election -and Obama has already played his best hand.

    If hoping for a September "surprise" from the investigation of Palin's firing of a state commissioner supposedly for not firing that trooper -don't hold your breath. Not only is there heavy documentation in the form of emails FROM that commissioner repeatedly showing outright insubordination on more than a dozen issues and holding secret meetings behind her back -commissioners serve at the pleasure of the governor. She doesn't even need a reason to fire him at all. One of those executive powers for which the other two branches of government have no say. He keeps his job only as long as the governor is pleased with his work. But she had plenty of evidence from this guy's own emails showing exactly why she fired him and that the trooper issue was just one of dozens of reasons. Not THE reason.

    This one won't do Democrats any good. Unless they want to start an argument about how governors shouldn't be allowed to fire commissioners even though they serve at the pleasure of a governor -and how they should get to keep their job even while being blatantly insubordinate and attempting to sabotage a governor. Like most other things Democrats consider to be "outrageous" if a Republican does it, they will suddenly change their mind about any Democrat governor or President who appoints a commissioner or department head and then fires and replaces him for similar reasons. LOL

    In the meantime, the trooper wasn't fired and only received a 5 day suspension -for tazing his 13 yr.old stepson and after he was caught redhanded drinking and driving in his patrol car while on duty. Not the kind of trooper I want running around my state -but then I'm not a Democrat who finds that worthy of defense in the first place.
     
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    How long are McCain and Palin going to hide from the press?
     
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    When...

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    As log as they need too. Why would they come out? They don't need to. The media is wrapped around Tina Fey glasses, Troopers that are no longer employed in Alaska, and whether or not the Obama campiagn is sexist. They don't need to say anything, everyone is watching the wrong hand.
     

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