Clinton wins New Mexico caucus

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    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

    Hillary is polling ahead in Ohio and she must win there to stay in the race. Don't count the Hill out yet. I am sure the Detectives are out there digging up Obama dirt.

    Still, Obama is steaming. He seems to have all the momentum. The GOP race is over. McCain is there whether Rush likes it or not...
     
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    Lots of Latinos in New Mexico.
     
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    Well, people have made the mistake of counting out Hillary Clinton before. But yep, Rush and company are going to have to suck it up, though I still think they'd rather lose and prove a "point".
     
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    I think she wins Tx for sure and probably Ohio.
     
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    Obama is in trouble with Latinos. And I do not think they will automatically move from Hillary to him if he gets the nomination. McCain is just as far left on the issue of illegal immigration as is Obama. The Latino vote will be critical in Florida, a must win state for McCain in November. Watch for Crist, Florida Governor, to be high on McCain's list of possible running mates. He may not agree to a VP request from McCain, since he might well lose to Obama. Plus, VP is quite a drop in power and visibility from Governor of the third most populous state.
     
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    Do you think Crist is well known enough outside of Florida to have an impact?

    And I know we've discussed this before, but do you really think that, other than the Miami Cubans, the latinos wouldn't come out for whichever democratic candidate runs?

    Besides, there's always Bill Richardson as a possible VP.
     
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    I don't think she's going to get Ohio. I think Texas is a lock. But I don't know if it will be enough.

    I'll tell ya, for a politics junkie this is a great election season. ;)
     
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    The last two presidential contests were decided by the two most populous swing states: Florida and Ohio. New Mexico will be put back on the table if Obama is the candidate. Hillary would take NM in a walk over McCain. All the Dems have to do to win in November is carry either Florida or Ohio. It's about the math. The only way the Republican candidate can put together enough electoral college votes is to win both Ohio and Florida. It makes no difference if Crist can help in CA, OR, and WA, they are already gone. Blue and Red are solid except for NM, OH, and FL. Name another state that is not a very long shot for Red or Blue. I do not think there are any. If there are, then the Dems have a better chance at previously solid Red states, such as Virginia. But does McCain have a shot at PA or NJ, for example? No way. It is all about OH and FL. And Crist would give McCain a strong chance at FL. But Ohio. Now there is the state that may put the Dems over the top in November. Watch the total Primary count in OH by Party. If the Dems draw 2 to 1 like they have elsewhere, then McCain should probably go on early vacation. Unless McCain does something really remarkable to stir conservative and moderate imaginations, it will be a Dem cakewalk in November.

    A reasonable Obama choice for VP would be Richardson because he will lock NM and give Obama a shot in Florida. Unless, there will be a giant Bradley affect that is unanticipated. In which case, a VP running mate like PA Governor Rendell might be a better choice. And Rendell can help in Ohio. This year, however, Blue will stay Blue. Obama must figure out how to grab only one Red. Obama should concentrate on OH and FL, and OH, given Bush's poor economic results, is probably his best shot. McCain, Mr. Path-to-Citizenship, from a border state, will poll very well with all Latinos, not just those in South Florida. But it will make little difference because the only states that are clearly in play are NM, FL, and OH.
     
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    Was the New Mexico caucus today? How many deligates is it worth? How many did she get and how many did Obama Bin Laden get?
     
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    What I love is the act put on that because a Democrat wins a State they somehow got all the delegates. NOT a SINGLE Democratic State Primary is winner take all. Some of them are so retarded that you can win the "vote" but get almost none of the delegates.

    The Press has jumped on the Obama wagon. Earlier they were dutifully reminding everyone that when Hillary won a State she didn't get all the delegates, why aren't they doing the same when Obama wins a State?
     

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