Climate Corruption $$$$$

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  1. Sinatra
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    The British press - with an assist from jounalists in India, is hitting hard the strong ties that the world's "top climate official" has with monetary and business interests that are making him a very wealthy man via his continued insistence that something needs to be done to halt climate change - so long as that "something" continues to line his own pockets...

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    ...Across the Atlantic, as the northern hemisphere was plunged into its third freezing winter in succession, violent snowstorms left more than two thirds of the US and almost the whole of Canada under December snow for the first time in decades. In the wake of that acrimonious shambles in Copenhagen, ever more questions are now being asked not only over the validity of the science behind the belief that man-made CO2 is causing runaway global warming but about the methods being used to meet that supposed threat...

    In last week's Sunday Telegraph Richard North and I wrote an article revealing the worldwide business interests of Dr Rajendra Pachauri who, as chairman since 2002 of the UN's Inter*governmental Panel on Climate Change, is the world's "top climate official". Our report was picked up by newspapers and blogs across the world, and was even the basis for a question put to Ban Ki-moon, the UN's Secretary General, at a New York press conference. But nowhere did it provoke a greater storm than in India, where Dr Pachauri is director-general of The Energy and Resources Institute (Teri), based in New Delhi, the country's most influential private body involved in climate-change issues and renewable energy. In addition, as we reported, Dr Pachauri also holds more than a score of positions with banks, universities and other institutions that benefit from the vast worldwide industry now based on measures to halt climate change.

    ...For a start, we should be allowed to know what Dr Pachauri is paid by us all as chairman of the IPCC, a figure that remains confidential. Teri should make public its accounts, including details of all payments it has received from Dr Pachauri's work for other organisations – particularly those that stand to benefit from policies arising directly or indirectly from the recommendations of the IPCC.

    ...Similarly it is Tata which next month is to close down its Corus steel works at Redcar, to make a potential £600 million in "credits" from the carbon emissions this will save, while in India it will earn a similar amount in UN CDM "credits" by building a plant of similar capacity in Orissa. It will thus make a potential gain of £1.2 billion, at the expense of 1,700 jobs on Teesside, for no overall reduction in the amount of CO2 emitted to the atmosphere.

    Truly, as the snow falls, does the business of saving the planet from global warming become more convoluted and more lucrative by the day.


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    Full article here:


    The questions Dr Pachauri still has to answer - Telegraph
     
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    Sure, you make it sound like the world is freezing. Yet, 2009 will go down on record as the fifth warmest year on record. And the last decade has been the warmest on record.

    One of the predictions of the climate change driven by global warming is that the weather changes will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. And that is exactly what we are seeing.

    If it were getting cooler, as you try to make out, the last few years would not have been the warmest on record.

    In fact, considering all the blather about how it is all the sun's fault when it is warming, why have the last two years been so warm? We have one of the longest solar minimums on record, yet 2008 and 2009 have been in the top ten of the warmest years on record.


    2009: Likely the 5th warmest year on record | Updraft | Minnesota Public Radio

    2009: Likely the 5th warmest year on record
    Posted at 8:20 AM on December 16, 2009 by Paul Huttner (0 Comments)



    Global temperatures so far in 2009 show a cool trend in the Upper Midwest, while most of the globe runs above average. (Source: NOAA's Climatic Data Center)

    The numbers are in for November from NOAA's Climatic Data Center.

    Global temperatures for November (combined land and ocean) were 1.08 degrees Fahrenheit above the 20th century average. That makes November the 4th warmest on record in the past 130 years.

    It appears even more likely now that 2009 will go down as the 5th warmest year on record since 1880. Global average temperatures are expected to close the year at about 1.01 degrees Fahrenheit above the 20th century average.

    If 2009 finishes as the 5th warmest year on record as expected, that means 9 of the past 10 years are all in the top 10 warmest years on record globally. In fact, the past 9 years in a row are among the top 10 warmest years on record since 1880.

    Global Top 10
    Warm Years (Jan-Dec) Anomaly °C Anomaly °F

    2005 0.61 1.10
    1998 0.60 1.08
    2003 0.58 1.04
    2002 0.57 1.03
    2009* 0.56* 1.01*
    2006 0.56 1.01
    2007 0.55 0.99
    2004 0.54 0.97
    2001 0.52 0.94
    2008 0.48 0.86
     
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    You state lies concerning the warming of the past decade, why should I think that you are doing any differant on the subject of the flow of financing?
     
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    I think you mean that you have no interest in the facts or science of this topic, and are basically just here to push a political point of view which has no basis in reality.

    Absolutely dreadful posting.
     
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    Let's look at some facts:

    The first decade of this century is "by far" the warmest since instrumental records began, say the UK Met Office and World Meteorological Organization.

    Their analyses also show that 2009 will almost certainly be the fifth warmest in the 160-year record.

    Burgeoning El Nino conditions, adding to man-made greenhouse warming, have pushed 2009 into the "top 10" years.

    BBC News - This decade 'warmest on record'
     
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    Excellent - it's always good to see a poster refuse to discuss his own topic.
     
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    Huh. Ignore the corruption while focusing on "facts and science" that have had their integrity compromised due to discovered collusion to commit fraud and conspiracy to defraud the public by creating a set of data to back up a revenue generating scheme. When other scientists have gone back in to look at the data the find massive amounts of violating the scientific process where data and models have been merged to produce a desired result and then, when the original data is demanded... it is found to have been or is destroyed.

    Nooo... no corruption possible here. Let's stay on message.
     
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    Thank you!!!

    An article clearly outlining the self-interest motivations of the so-called "top" climate dude, and the flat-earth warmers in here keep crying about how 2009 is "projected" to be a warm year... except in the United States of course which saw temps below normal. (tougher to now alter US data perhaps???)

    They run to data that continues to be under a cloud of possible guilt - with admissions of "hide the decline" and attempts to control the peer review process.

    The flat-earther warmers are quite amusing these days!!! :lol:
     

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