Climate Change Deniers among our Elected Representatives

[Markle]

I think the University of Colorado's Sea Level Lab's sea level data is the closest thing to FACTS to pop up in any conversation with you Mr Westwall.

New Study Finds 8 Islands Swallowed By Rising Sea Level

Eight low-lying Pacific islands swallowed whole by rising seas

Five Pacific islands lost to rising seas as climate change hits

13 Islands That Will Disappear in the Next 80 Years

Rising seas give island nation a stark choice: relocate or elevate

Rising sea levels will leave islands from the Maldives to Hawaii uninhabitable within decades, scientists warn

Submerging Paradise: Climate Change in the Pacific Islands

How is it that, to you and these other quacks, it is impossible for the islands to be sinking? Why hasn't the sea level raised all around the Pacific Rim?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

God are you stupid.

This:

is data.

From http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/articles/MannetalScience09.pdf

Bwaaaaahhhhaaaaaaaa...pure speculation just like the same thing speculating what dinosaurs looked like. Until we travel back in time, we wont know for SURE what the past was really like. But you go on and give up your cars, dont use a airplane, stop using gas to heat your house or cook your food. Turn off all your lights because that energy comes from gas power plants. Dont even use a candle in your house at night, because you are just a pawn to the liberals, who use 10's of thousands of dollars per year on their energy costs that would normally power a small city. They can have all the energy they want, you must not...fucking dumbass..

Al Gore's mansion uses '21 times more energy' than average | Daily Mail Online

 

[Sunsettommy]

You made a deflection

Posting images of a climate change-related rain event was not a deflection, but nice try.

Your entire comment was misleading and dishonest, which you don't even acknowledge when I pointed it out, but nice try.

You are so pathetic that you ignored most of my comment that had made a fool of you, and you don't appear to realize it.

 

[the other mike]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Facebook video spreads climate denial misinformation to 5 million users | Dana Nuccitelli

 

[Crick]

The photos I posted weren't from rain events. Every one was of saltwater.

 

[the other mike]

The photos I posted weren't from rain events.

I'm an easier target today.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Facebook video spreads climate denial misinformation to 5 million users | Dana Nuccitelli

Since Cooks garbage paper is mentioned, here is what The Guardian said EARLIER (Fri 6 Jun 2014) and with a much better writer (Richard Tol) about that stupid paper:

The claim of a 97% consensus on global warming does not stand up
Consensus is irrelevant in science. There are plenty of examples in history where everyone agreed and everyone was wrong

Excerpt:

"Dana Nuccitelli writes that I “accidentally confirm the results of last year’s 97% global warming consensus study”. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I show that the 97% consensus claim does not stand up.

At best, Nuccitelli, John Cook and colleagues may have accidentally stumbled on the right number."

LINK

Here are many more articles that savages the stupid consensus claims, only 96 more of them.

LINK

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The photos I posted weren't from rain events. Every one was of saltwater.

Yes Miami has always had flooded streets when the winds would cause waves to come in from the sea. Problem for you, junior, is that you haven't been around a long time to know this happens all the time.

Notice the word Annual, that means yearly...

Miami Area Experiences Chronic Nuisance Flooding Due to Annual King Tides | The Weather Channel

Every year, high tides are about 10 inches higher in October than in February, on average. The annual “king tide” occurs when the sun, Earth and moon align. The tide rises to its highest point of the year and an extra foot of water is brought ashore. This event combined with high annual tides leads to the Miami area experiencing a degree of tidal flooding.

Because it is built on limestone, the entire region of Miami lies relatively low. When tides become exceptionally high, sea water tends to filter up through storm drains and the ground, as it did earlier in the month.

I am real sorry that you are too stupid not to study history and are easily taken advantage of by the liberal elites who arent much smarter than you.

 

[the other mike]

 

[Sunsettommy]

Watch this warmist puppet go all over the place with his cut and paste ravings, but NEVER articulate in his own words what is really going on, here he is far out of date, since the decline trend has stopped after 2007.

You are so far behind and ignorant too.

 

[westwall]

You're the one who hurled the first insult, dude.

Wrong again....dude. You're batting 1000 today.

That's the problem with your claims. They are easily refuted.

ummm, that is not an insult, dude. That is called a statement.

In the context you said it it was starting some shit. ...which you are continuing.

A laughable assertion. A statement of fact is a statement of fact. If you think that that is an insult then you need to climb under a rock and stay there because no one in their right mind will think the same as you.

 

[Markle]

The photos I posted weren't from rain events. Every one was of saltwater.

Without the date, time and location of each of those photos, they are less than worthless. I have lived in Florida and the Florida Keys most of my life. I have been through a lot of hurricanes. Please add storm surge to your vocabulary.

I lived in Key West from 1967-1970. There are locations in Key West that flood when there was a particularly high tide. When a hurricane approached or came very close, it would be worse. That was true then and is true today, fifty years later, the same locations. The same is true for Miami, Miami Beach, Key Biscayne and other like locations.

 

[westwall]

Wow. December 2004. Got anything more current?

 

[the other mike]

February 2018
NASA releases time-lapse of the disappearing Arctic polar ice cap

 

[westwall]

February 2018
NASA releases time-lapse of the disappearing Arctic polar ice cap

Cool animation! Here's today.

 

[the other mike]

With thick ice gone, Arctic sea ice changes more slowly – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

 

[Darkwind]

"What would you think if your government didn't believe in gravity? If your senator alleged that, because they couldn't see it, perhaps it didn't exist. To many, this might seem absurd—the science is enough to know that it's real."

The Climate Change Deniers in Congress

"Almost 30 years ago, a NASA scientist named James Hansen pleaded with Congress, under the Reagan Administration, to accept the evidence and do something about it. "It is already happening now," Hansen said before a Congressional committee in 1988."

"Fast-forward three decades, and the United States is facing one of its most anti-science Congresses in history. Many members of the Senate and House of Representatives have gone on-record to denounce climate change as a hoax. Others have proven through their votes that regulating greenhouse gas emissions is not a priority. And still, some state representatives claim to believe in human-made climate change, but consistently support policies that would erode initiatives to combat it."

The colors used here are no mistake. The alignment between a representatives position on AGW and his political party is almost perfect. And you can see many instances of the same reasoning you'll find here on this forum, in the halls of our Congress. The most common answer seen from our representatives is that the Earth's climate has always been dynamic and that the changes over the last century and a half are simply Mother Nature at work. Unsurprisingly, that reasoning is as easily refuted as all the rest. Of course the Earth's climate is dynamic, but through its very long history, that dynamicism has resulted in changes orders of magnitude slower than the changes we are witnessing now. And the various variable factors that naturally control our climate: ex solar irradiance and orbital mechanics, indicate that we should be cooling now. But, of course, we are not.

So, once again, would you vote for a representative that didn't believe in gravity? What if he thought we were all actually held down by magnetism or by wee demons trying to drag us to Hell? Would you vote for a senate candidate that believed the Earth was flat, that humans had never traveled to space, much less the moon? Would you vote for a presidential candidate who believed that modern medicine was an evil to be eliminated from modern society? The belief that the rate of warming we are currently experiencing is a natural climatic change (or a lie constructed by thousands of corrupt scientists) and that human GHG emissions have no involvement, is just as false and just as dangerous.

It is ludicrous to even try to compare gravity wth climate change.

1. Gravity can be demonstrated repeatedly.

2. Climate change cannot be demonstrated at all.

So, for those who are elected who believe in climate change, it's like believing in pink and purple unicorns are going to come and magically bestow peace upon the Earth.

Your post is what we call an "EPIC FAIL!"

 

[westwall]

With thick ice gone, Arctic sea ice changes more slowly – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Wow, We were told waaay back in 2008 that by 2013 there would be no ice in the Arctic. What happened?

 

[skookerasbil]

The OP is talking about the number of repreesentatives in our CURRENT congress that reject or act as if they reject AGW.

As to what has happened in the past:

Climate change policy of the United States - Wikipedia

"In October 2003 and again in June 2005, the McCain-Lieberman Climate Stewardship Act failed a vote in the US Senate.[1] In the 2005 vote, Republicans opposed the Bill 49-6, while Democrats supported it 37–10.[2]

In January 2007, Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced she would form a United States Congress subcommittee to examine global warming.[3] Sen. Joe Lieberman said, "I'm hot to get something done. It's hard not to conclude that the politics of global warming has changed and a new consensus for action is emerging and it is a bipartisan consensus."[4] Senators Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Barbara Boxer (D-CA) introduced the Global Warming Pollution Reduction Act on January 15, 2007. The measure would provide funding for R&D on geologic sequestration of carbon dioxide (CO2), set emissions standards for new vehicles and a renewable fuels requirement for gasoline beginning in 2016, establish energy efficiency and renewable portfolio standards beginning in 2008 and low-carbon electric generation standards beginning in 2016 for electric utilities, and require periodic evaluations by the National Academy of Sciences to determine whether emissions targets are adequate.[5] However, the bill died in committee. Two more bills, the Climate Protection Act and the Sustainable Energy Act, proposed February 14, 2013, also failed to pass committee.[6]"

The House of Representatives approved the American Clean Energy and Security Act (ACES) on June 26, 2009, by a vote of 219–212, but the bill failed to pass the Senate.[7][8]

In March 2011, the Republicans submitted a bill to the U.S. congress that would prohibit the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) from regulating greenhouse gasses as pollutants.[9] As of July 2012, the EPA continues to oversee regulation under the Clean Air Act.[10][11]

Now try one more time to tell us that it was the Democrats that failed to push AGW-oriented policy.

References

1. http://www.nwf.org/globalwarming/senateVoteJune05.cfm, National Wildlife Federation
2. ^ "Summary of The Lieberman-McCain Climate Stewardship Act of 2003 - Center for Climate and Energy Solutions". Retrieved November 11, 2016.
3. ^ Pelosi creates global warming committee[permanent dead link], Associated Press, 1/18/07.
4. ^ "Senators sound alarm on climate", The Washington Times, January 31, 2007
5. ^ "Climate Change Bills of the 110th Congress". Environmental Defense Fund. May 29, 2007. Archived from the original on February 12, 2008. Retrieved August 30, 2011.
6. ^ "Sanders, Boxer Propose Climate Change Bills". Sen. Bernie Sanders. Retrieved 2015-10-10.
7. ^ Broder, John (June 26, 2009). "House Passes Bill to Address Threat of Climate Change". The New York Times. Retrieved 2009-06-27.
8. ^ Greg G. Hitt; Stephan Power, "House Passes Climate Bill", June 27, 2009; The Wall Street Journal
9. ^ Timothy Gardner, "Republicans launch bill to axe EPA carbon rules", Reuters March 3, 2011
10. ^ Court Backs E.P.A. Over Emissions Limits Intended to Reduce Global Warming June 26, 2012
11. ^ ""This is how science works" on global warming, court rules - Doubtful News". Retrieved November 11, 2016.

You fake, phony fraud.

What about 2008 - 2016?

Congress didnt do dick!

Pwn'd again s0n!!

 

[Markle]

February 2018
NASA releases time-lapse of the disappearing Arctic polar ice cap

Didn't the brilliant environmentalist Al "Snake Oil Salesman" Gore promise us the Arctic would be free of Ice by 2010 or thereabouts? Oh, and Polar Bears were going to be extinct. Are they?

Did you believe Al Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth"?