Discussion in 'Law and Justice System' started by Gunny, Nov 18, 2007.
One can only HOPE that it DOES cause pain and remains undetected.
Oh, and such a Christian attitude that ------Prevention?, or just out and out revenge????
Take a life, lose your life, seems reasonable to me. And if you die in a little pain, so what?
There is no requirement that when the State kills someone there be no pain. None what so ever. The only restriction is against cruel or unusual punishment.
It is neither cruel nor unusual to put someone to sleep before killing them. Nor is it cruel or unusual if in the process the convicted 'might" suffer some pain. Further since the jury is out on whether or not there is even any real pain suffered this further negates the cruel and or unusual argument.
Lets assume for a moment that some pain is felt by the condemned, just to simplify the argument. Is the pain intentionally inflicted for pains sake alone? Is there a means around the potential pain?
Answer to the first question is NO. Answer to second question is murkier, the medical establishment has barred licensed medical personnel from administering cocktails designed to end a persons life. Oh but they do not mind euthanising old people or infirm people. Nor do they mind murdering in the most barbaric means possible unborn or partially born children.
Cruel punishment is generally considered to have as a component intent. Granted not always but generally that is a requirement. The cocktail is NOT designed to cause pain. It is in fact designed to avoid any major pain.
Unusual Punishment is not even a consideration.
Lets just return to hanging them Simple, straight forward and direct.
yea.., this is an area where me and my fellows part ways. If lethal injection is too painful for state execution then let's find a way to kill a person with feathers and candy. My first opinion is that murderers get killed in the exact same fashion as how they killed their victims. My second opinion is to bring back the guilloteen and electric chair before we say fuck it and start hanging people again. Being put down like a dog is a whole lot nicer than having your neck stretched. Clearly, these things feed the anti-death penalty crowd but it's a total fucking farce to claim lethal injection is cruel or unusual.
George Carlin: It's ridiculous and it goes to ridiculous lengths! In prisons, before they give you a lethal injection, they swab your arm with alcohol!
[Laughter and applause]
George Carlin: It's true! It's true. It's true! Well, they don't want you to get an infection! And you can see their point: wouldn't want some guy to go to Hell *and* be sick! It would a lot of the sportsmanship out of the whole execution.
Neither. It's all about the reckoning. Where's the concern for the manner in which his victim died? Repeatedly raped then suffocated/strangled. I've got about as much mercy in me for an animal like that as I do a rabid dog.
Me, too - less, in fact. The dog is a victim of rotten luck; he's still got to go, though - he is a clear and present danger. Yet, we're supposed to pity a thinking, reasoning human being who CONSCIOUSLY CHOSE to destroy life in the furtherance of his own gratification? Screw that - society has a responsibility to protect itself.
You do realise that one in five death row inmates are later found innocent, right?
Look, the death penalty just isnt worth it. Millions of dollars in appeals courts, just to off some innocent person (20 percent of the time).
F*ck that. I say put them in jail for life. Isnt that painful enough?? Send them some slippery soap.
Killing them wont bring anyone back from the dead, and two wrongs, in this case, especially, dont make a right.
I disagree. The Death Penalty is worth it. 20 years of repeal is unnecessary in many murder cases where guilt is clear. No, life on the tax payer dime is not painful enough.
In this case I would hang these men within a week of their criminal trial.
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When people die, it is easy to point fingers at whomever the most likely suspect is, usually a man.
YOU have to be fair, and remember that a person in this country is INNOCENT *UNTIL PROVEN* GUILTY in a court of law.
Lynching is also illegal, so I am sprry but that is entirely out of the question. Everyone deserves a fair trial. Even you, if you were accused of a crime. If the media and everyone was pointing their fingers at you as a murderer, when you didnt do it, how would you like it if they gave you one week to live?
Thats just a bunch of hateful bullcrap if you asked me.
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