Chicago is Considering Municipal-run Grocery Stores

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Chicago Proposes Municipally Run Grocery Store As Vendors Flee Rampant Crime

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson proposed a city-owned grocery store on Wednesday after several supermarket chains left the city because of rampant crime, Fox11 News reported.

dailycaller.com

A municipally owned grocery store would withstand any retail thefts or “economic challenges” in the city, Ameya Pawar, the senior analyst for the Economic Security Project, said, according to The National Desk. Pawar also claimed that a city-run grocery store would operate similar to regular grocery stores but would serve the public like a “library” or a “post office.”

The election riggers' ideas for community are off-the-charts absurd.

What's it going to be, a library where everything is free to borrow and there are homeless people hanging out all day, or a post office with vending machines for stamps, and wait in line for packages?

 

[Dekster]

I really don't have a problem with it but they probably need to go the route of setting up a municipal owned non-profit like places do to dump their slum property razing lands and such.

 

[Darkwind]

I really don't have a problem with it but they probably need to go the route of setting up a municipal owned non-profit like places do to dump their slum property razing lands and such.

So, its okay with you to pass the theft loss to the municipal taxpayers directly?

You do realize that is what will happen, right? The thugs will raid and steal the store blind, and then the city will just restock for tomorrow. The stock is paid from the general fund of the taxpayers.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I doubt this store will be stolen blind. Thefts occur so that the merchandise can be sold. The government run store won't sell anything worth stealing. They will sell surplus. Think lard and powdered eggs.
What is scary about government run grocery stores is that is creeping communism. The Sovietization of the food supply.

 

[Dekster]

So, its okay with you to pass the theft loss to the municipal taxpayers directly?

You do realize that is what will happen, right? The thugs will raid and steal the store blind, and then the city will just restock for tomorrow. The stock is paid from the general fund of the taxpayers.

I have no idea what will happen, how these stores would operate or what their loss prevention policies would be. If they feel the lack of markets is a problem, then I support them experimenting with a potential solution.

See, I know it is very passe, but I do not automatically jump to the worst possible outcome at any idea someone comes up with. You should try to be more open. I mean it isn't like it is your money at risk to begin with unless you are a store owner in Chicago who doesn't want competition.

 

[Muhammed]

So, its okay with you to pass the theft loss to the municipal taxpayers directly?

You do realize that is what will happen, right? The thugs will raid and steal the store blind, and then the city will just restock for tomorrow. The stock is paid from the general fund of the taxpayers.

It wouldn't have to be a self serve grocery store. It could be like a pre-1916 grocery store.

Customers didn't always have the run of the grocery store like we are all used to. The customer used to give the clerk their grocery list and the clerk would go get the groceries and bring them to the counter.

Then in 1916 Clarence Saunders opened up the Piggly Wiggly in Memphis, the first self serve grocery store. People thought he would fail because people would just go somewhere else if they had to gather their own groceries. But since he saved on labor costs he could charge less. So the store was a big hit.

But today some inner city areas are so blighted with moral decay that it's a losing proposition to run a self serve grocery store.

I bet these grocery stores that are fleeing those areas considered going full serve instead of closing but then realized that they would constantly be falsely accused of racism if they did that.

And the thing is, we all know that Chicago is so fucking corrupt that their public grocery store will lose at least ten times as much money from corruption as it does from shoplifters.

You can mark my words on that one.

 

[Darkwind]

I have no idea what will happen, how these stores would operate or what their loss prevention policies would be. If they feel the lack of markets is a problem, then I support them experimenting with a potential solution.

See, I know it is very passe, but I do not automatically jump to the worst possible outcome at any idea someone comes up with. You should try to be more open. I mean it isn't like it is your money at risk to begin with unless you are a store owner in Chicago who doesn't want competition.

You seemed to have missed the whole point.

A municipal store would mean that my money is at risk.

We're talking about Chicago, so jumping to the worst possible outcome is more than justified.

 

[Lord-Humungus]

Who wouldn’t want to stand soviet style lines for hours to get the customer service you expect from the DMV each week for rice and beans

 

[Doc7505]

Just What Chicago Needs, Government-Owned Grocery Stores​

Just What Chicago Needs, Government-Owned Grocery Stores | National Review

The city of Chicago is in the early stages of planning a city-owned grocery store.

www.nationalreview.com

18 Sep 2023 ~~ By Jim Geraghty

Luther, fear not, the era of government-run grocery stores may not be as dead and buried as it seems. The city of Chicago — already doing such a terrific job on handling crime, poverty, homelessness, and unemployment — is exploring the possibility of establishing municipally owned grocery stores.
City officials contend that a city-run grocery store would be better because they wouldn’t have to worry about making money. And Mayor Brandon Johnson is enthusiastically embracing the idea:
~Snip~
Now, no doubt Chicago’s city-run grocery stores would have the same service, efficiency, and quality that Chicago residents have come to expect from the local government of a city ranked 149th in its financial stability, 67th in its education system, 71st in its health-care system, 80th in its public safety, 129th in the quality of its economy, or, credit where it’s due, 37th in its infrastructure and pollution. (That’s out of 149 U.S. cities.)
~Snip~
Who knows, maybe in a few years, we’ll see some Chicagoans marveling at the variety of products available in grocery stories the way Boris Yeltsin did.


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What could go wrong?
Government food stamps only folks just like company stores of the 20th Century. Limited selection of food. The gov`t now owns you.

Company store - Wikipedia

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[frigidweirdo]

I doubt this store will be stolen blind. Thefts occur so that the merchandise can be sold. The government run store won't sell anything worth stealing. They will sell surplus. Think lard and powdered eggs.
What is scary about government run grocery stores is that is creeping communism. The Sovietization of the food supply.

And what's wrong with Communism?

The problem with that question is that Communism we've seen hasn't worked because it hasn't been done properly. Perhaps it could never be done properly.

However state run shops aren't necessarily a bad thing. I believe in Scandinavian countries like Sweden, the alcohol shops are state run.

Just saying "it's Communism" doesn't help anyone. It's whether it's effective and works that matters.

The UK has the NHS, Communism? Well, it costs the UK govt less per capita than the US govt spends on healthcare, and the outcomes are FAR, FAR better than what the US gets.

 

[surada]

I doubt this store will be stolen blind. Thefts occur so that the merchandise can be sold. The government run store won't sell anything worth stealing. They will sell surplus. Think lard and powdered eggs.
What is scary about government run grocery stores is that is creeping communism. The Sovietization of the food supply.

Powdered eggs and lard? Are you living on the moon?

 

[1srelluc]

Waiting in line at the gubment store.

 

[surada]

Shame of Chicago

www.shameofchicago.org

The history of the Southside of Chicago is complicated and probably not what you think.

 

[Mac-7]

This is a stupid idea that only a marxist could love

 

[Dekster]

You seemed to have missed the whole point.

A municipal store would mean that my money is at risk.

We're talking about Chicago, so jumping to the worst possible outcome is more than justified.

Except your money would not be at risk. Your taxes are based on your income, not what the government spends it on.

 

[Darkwind]

Except your money would not be at risk. Your taxes are based on your income, not what the government spends it on.

Taxes are money taken from taxpayers, you understand that right? That means that you are putting the taxpayer on the hook for any and all failures of any government endeavor.

As a taxpayer, that is My money they are putting in jeopardy.

 

[TheParser]

Customers didn't always have the run of the grocery store like we are all used to. The customer used to give the clerk their grocery list and the clerk would go get the groceries and bring them to the counter.

How interesting. Thanks!

I did not know that. (And I am 86!)

Just as in the past, drivers sat in their cars while gas station employees filled up their tanks.

 

[IM2]

Actually this is a great idea, but idiots who use Chicago as a racial dogwhistle won't see the benefit in it.

 

[surada]

Except your money would not be at risk. Your taxes are based on your income, not what the government spends it on.

That's a bit myopic.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

And what's wrong with Communism?

The problem with that question is that Communism we've seen hasn't worked because it hasn't been done properly. Perhaps it could never be done properly.

However state run shops aren't necessarily a bad thing. I believe in Scandinavian countries like Sweden, the alcohol shops are state run.

Just saying "it's Communism" doesn't help anyone. It's whether it's effective and works that matters.

The UK has the NHS, Communism? Well, it costs the UK govt less per capita than the US govt spends on healthcare, and the outcomes are FAR, FAR better than what the US gets.

Yes it is truly an abomination that so many nations are slipping into Socialist collectivism.