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Preciate your sentiment, however, that doesn't ring true...the power issue argument, because historically, police have had an adversarial & racist relationship with blacks.I absolutely agree with you. But they kill a lot more whiteys than they do blacks. It is not a racism issue, it is a power issue. Police, especially corrupt police forces, are very difficult to reign in. They don't care what color you are, they only care that they have power over you.
I would hope the police are waiting for back up before proceeding into an area where gunfire is reported. That would be a wise thing to do. I wouldn't want to think they would have less honorable reasons for not responding immediately. But, after publicized revelations of cops planting dope on people, raping women and being brutal… I realized that some of them are capable of doing anything.If a large share of those murders are unsolved there has to be an assumption by White observers that the perpetrators were Black.
That is a BIG assumption. And while you are assuming that, you afre ignoring that 90* % of White murdered are murdered by other Whites. If, with all the resources at your disposal, you can't get a handle on your homicide problems how do you expect Blacks to do it? Black tax dollars go to city hall to pay for the same police protection you do but apparently they get less protection.
Why not show blacks how to coral their homicide problem by setting an example in corralling yours?
Here's the FBI chart on the subject. In 2013 there were 2491 blacks murdered. Of that total 2245 of the perps were black. That equates out to slightly over 90%. In that same time period there were 3,005 whites murdered and lo and behold the majority of those who killed (2509, or 83%) them were white too. This makes sense as you tend to hang with your friends.
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
The problem I have is with that last block marked unknown. Whites 1529 and Blacks 1608.
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What do you make of that last table and how does it apply to the offenders?
- 1 The ethnicity totals are representative of those agencies that provided ethnicity breakdowns. Not all agencies provide ethnicity data, therefore the race and ethnicity totals will not equal.
- 2 Includes American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian; Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
- NOTE: This table is based on incidents where some information about the offender is known by law enforcement; therefore, when the offender age, sex, and race are all reported as unknown, these data are excluded from the table.
It doesn't mean anything beyond the police have no suspect, so no way to classify one.
Pookie gets blasted slinging rock on a streetcorner. The cops have no witnesses, because Stop Snitchin' is a thing, so have nothing to go on. They know in their heart of hearts that Pookie caught a bullet for being on the wrong streetcorner and his killer was black like Pookie, but without an actual suspect, they can't say.
Same thing when Bobby Joe ends up dead in a trailer park. The killer is probably white, but without anything more to go on than Bobby Joe got stabbed a bunch of times and left behind his trailer, there's another unsolved crime.
You've got quite an imagination but you still did not address the possibility that some of those unsolved homicides must occur virtually under the noses of police officers. Surely the retort of gunfire would draw their attention if they are anywhere nearby. Plus, I wouldn't rule out police involvement in some of those murders.
Long gone are the days when police officers would rapidly race to the sounds of gunfire. Now, they wait for the shooting to stop, then give a little extra time for the perps to vacate the area, then they will go in and check the victims. That is the new reality. Your assertion that cops are murdering people is not born out by fact. Yes, police officers do indeed kill people who should not be killed. That is a given, but the numbers are small. Tragic nonetheless, but thankfully small.
Funny that you don't use the proportional twist when calculating THOSE statistics.\The problem is not that they kill in so-called "small numbers", but what happens to them when they do.Long gone are the days when police officers would rapidly race to the sounds of gunfire. Now, they wait for the shooting to stop, then give a little extra time for the perps to vacate the area, then they will go in and check the victims. That is the new reality. Your assertion that cops are murdering people is not born out by fact. Yes, police officers do indeed kill people who should not be killed. That is a given, but the numbers are small. Tragic nonetheless, but thankfully small.
Thus far, police have been allowed to get away with killing indiscriminately without consequence.
That has to stop.
I absolutely agree with you. But they kill a lot more whiteys than they do blacks. It is not a racism issue, it is a power issue. Police, especially corrupt police forces, are very difficult to reign in. They don't care what color you are, they only care that they have power over you.
Well I didn't hear a peep from any of the former presidents either. Neither did I see or hear any comments from Congressmen or the Supreme Court.. But most troubling of all I didn't hear a peep from any of the thousands of police chiefs around the country!There was a brief story on the news today, and that will be that. No outcry from Obama, not a peep from Black Lives Matter. This is every Father's worst nightmare. He raised a great kid who was headed back to college and now he's dead. Over 2,100 shootings in Chicago THIS YEAR.
Chicago Police Officer's Son Shot And Killed
If you could prove that blacks are as law-abiding as the rest of the population and whites in particular, then you would have a point.Funny that you don't use the proportional twist when calculating THOSE statistics.\The problem is not that they kill in so-called "small numbers", but what happens to them when they do.Long gone are the days when police officers would rapidly race to the sounds of gunfire. Now, they wait for the shooting to stop, then give a little extra time for the perps to vacate the area, then they will go in and check the victims. That is the new reality. Your assertion that cops are murdering people is not born out by fact. Yes, police officers do indeed kill people who should not be killed. That is a given, but the numbers are small. Tragic nonetheless, but thankfully small.
Thus far, police have been allowed to get away with killing indiscriminately without consequence.
That has to stop.
I absolutely agree with you. But they kill a lot more whiteys than they do blacks. It is not a racism issue, it is a power issue. Police, especially corrupt police forces, are very difficult to reign in. They don't care what color you are, they only care that they have power over you.
U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times as great as the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.
Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) - such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri -175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw number there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation's population."
More whites killed by police, but blacks 2.5 times more likely to be killed
Can you prove that MOST blacks are NOT as law-abiding as the rest of the population?If you could prove that blacks are as law-abiding as the rest of the population and whites in particular, then you would have a point.Funny that you don't use the proportional twist when calculating THOSE statistics.\The problem is not that they kill in so-called "small numbers", but what happens to them when they do.Long gone are the days when police officers would rapidly race to the sounds of gunfire. Now, they wait for the shooting to stop, then give a little extra time for the perps to vacate the area, then they will go in and check the victims. That is the new reality. Your assertion that cops are murdering people is not born out by fact. Yes, police officers do indeed kill people who should not be killed. That is a given, but the numbers are small. Tragic nonetheless, but thankfully small.
Thus far, police have been allowed to get away with killing indiscriminately without consequence.
That has to stop.
I absolutely agree with you. But they kill a lot more whiteys than they do blacks. It is not a racism issue, it is a power issue. Police, especially corrupt police forces, are very difficult to reign in. They don't care what color you are, they only care that they have power over you.
U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times as great as the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.
Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) - such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri -175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw number there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation's population."
More whites killed by police, but blacks 2.5 times more likely to be killed
And lying about it...I would hope the police are waiting for back up before proceeding into an area where gunfire is reported. That would be a wise thing to do. I wouldn't want to think they would have less honorable reasons for not responding immediately. But, after publicized revelations of cops planting dope on people, raping women and being brutal… I realized that some of them are capable of doing anything.
That includes not only being slow to respond to emergencies in certain neighborhoods but also engaging in clandestine vigilantism.
Of course not, but I can easily prove blacks are less law-abiding than other groups and thus more likely to be confronted by police. 50% of murders in the country by young black males, less than 4% of the population.Can you prove that MOST blacks are NOT as law-abiding as the rest of the population?If you could prove that blacks are as law-abiding as the rest of the population and whites in particular, then you would have a point.Funny that you don't use the proportional twist when calculating THOSE statistics.\The problem is not that they kill in so-called "small numbers", but what happens to them when they do.Long gone are the days when police officers would rapidly race to the sounds of gunfire. Now, they wait for the shooting to stop, then give a little extra time for the perps to vacate the area, then they will go in and check the victims. That is the new reality. Your assertion that cops are murdering people is not born out by fact. Yes, police officers do indeed kill people who should not be killed. That is a given, but the numbers are small. Tragic nonetheless, but thankfully small.
Thus far, police have been allowed to get away with killing indiscriminately without consequence.
That has to stop.
I absolutely agree with you. But they kill a lot more whiteys than they do blacks. It is not a racism issue, it is a power issue. Police, especially corrupt police forces, are very difficult to reign in. They don't care what color you are, they only care that they have power over you.
U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times as great as the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.
Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) - such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri -175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw number there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation's population."
More whites killed by police, but blacks 2.5 times more likely to be killed
Black Lives Matter doesn't control the airwaves white people do. You see and hear only what white controlled media allows you to see and hear. BLM does protest Black on Black crime and murder but you have to get off ghe mainstream media to see or hear it.
Of course not, but I can easily prove blacks are less law-abiding than other groups and thus more likely to be confronted by police. 50% of murders in the country by young black males, less than 4% of the population.Can you prove that MOST blacks are NOT as law-abiding as the rest of the population?If you could prove that blacks are as law-abiding as the rest of the population and whites in particular, then you would have a point.Funny that you don't use the proportional twist when calculating THOSE statistics.\The problem is not that they kill in so-called "small numbers", but what happens to them when they do.
Thus far, police have been allowed to get away with killing indiscriminately without consequence.
That has to stop.
I absolutely agree with you. But they kill a lot more whiteys than they do blacks. It is not a racism issue, it is a power issue. Police, especially corrupt police forces, are very difficult to reign in. They don't care what color you are, they only care that they have power over you.
U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times as great as the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.
Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) - such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri -175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw number there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation's population."
More whites killed by police, but blacks 2.5 times more likely to be killed
Black Lives Matter doesn't control the airwaves white people do. You see and hear only what white controlled media allows you to see and hear. BLM does protest Black on Black crime and murder but you have to get off ghe mainstream media to see or hear it.
Oh stop. You have BET
Look, I know you don't do math, but how can young black males be 6% of the population when blacks are 13? Are there no older black males?Wrong Young blackmales are 6% of the population but not ALL of them are killers. When you find out the true percentage of Black male killers come on back and tell us. If you don't know STFU!
According to people like you there are very few older Black males. Some of your racist friends think they kill each other so much they are dead by 30. Are you calling your friends and associates liars?Look, I know you don't do math, but how can young black males be 6% of the population when blacks are 13? Are there no older black males?Wrong Young blackmales are 6% of the population but not ALL of them are killers. When you find out the true percentage of Black male killers come on back and tell us. If you don't know STFU!
FFS, think before you post such asinine things!
Math is really a fucking challenge for you, even for a black.
Seriously DeShawn, are statistics really that difficult to understand?According to people like you there are very few older Black males. Some of your racist friends think they kill each other so much they are dead by 30. Are you calling your friends and associates liars?Look, I know you don't do math, but how can young black males be 6% of the population when blacks are 13? Are there no older black males?Wrong Young blackmales are 6% of the population but not ALL of them are killers. When you find out the true percentage of Black male killers come on back and tell us. If you don't know STFU!
FFS, think before you post such asinine things!
Math is really a fucking challenge for you, even for a black.
I understand that you are 100% nuts!Seriously DeShawn, are statistics really that difficult to understand?According to people like you there are very few older Black males. Some of your racist friends think they kill each other so much they are dead by 30. Are you calling your friends and associates liars?Look, I know you don't do math, but how can young black males be 6% of the population when blacks are 13? Are there no older black males?Wrong Young blackmales are 6% of the population but not ALL of them are killers. When you find out the true percentage of Black male killers come on back and tell us. If you don't know STFU!
FFS, think before you post such asinine things!
Math is really a fucking challenge for you, even for a black.
Why would you expect BLM or any other Black organization to complain about Black on Black crime when Whites completely ignore White on White crime?Black Lives Matter doesn't control the airwaves white people do. You see and hear only what white controlled media allows you to see and hear. BLM does protest Black on Black crime and murder but you have to get off ghe mainstream media to see or hear it.The Black Lives Matter and the Black Grievance Industry ignore such incidents like the plague because they don't want to admit the what's causing the senseless slaughter of blacks killing blacks is rooted in the violent culture in which many many young blacks are raised. Violence is everyday behavior they learn in their homes from older family members and they simply emulate it as youngsters and take it to the streets as they mature.
Change can only come from within but there isn't a race pimp that will even acknowledge it let alone do anything about it. Too easy to blame whitey instead.
Really? They could post that all over youtube or liveleak but no, I hear them railing against whitey and nary a peep about the crime endemic in the black community.
White on White crime is as endemic or more so than is Black on Black crime in America but your media focuses on the latter with such intensity the entire entire world has come to associate Blacks with ALL the violence in America. That is NOT true.
But Black protestors are not throwing White on white crime in your faces. They are complaining about cops killing unarmed Blacks and not being held accountable.
That is a fair grievance to complain about. BTW, I have a question for you. If cops have saturated Black neighborhoods so much in the past 40 years how was it possible that all those Black on Black homicides occurred under their noses? Something doesn't compute here. And considering that most of those murders go unsolved. it raises the question that the cops might be clandestinely involved somehow.
Duh! Some trailer parks are crime free I guess!Why would you expect BLM or any other Black organization to complain about Black on Black crime when Whites completely ignore White on White crime?Black Lives Matter doesn't control the airwaves white people do. You see and hear only what white controlled media allows you to see and hear. BLM does protest Black on Black crime and murder but you have to get off ghe mainstream media to see or hear it.The Black Lives Matter and the Black Grievance Industry ignore such incidents like the plague because they don't want to admit the what's causing the senseless slaughter of blacks killing blacks is rooted in the violent culture in which many many young blacks are raised. Violence is everyday behavior they learn in their homes from older family members and they simply emulate it as youngsters and take it to the streets as they mature.
Change can only come from within but there isn't a race pimp that will even acknowledge it let alone do anything about it. Too easy to blame whitey instead.
Really? They could post that all over youtube or liveleak but no, I hear them railing against whitey and nary a peep about the crime endemic in the black community.
White on White crime is as endemic or more so than is Black on Black crime in America but your media focuses on the latter with such intensity the entire entire world has come to associate Blacks with ALL the violence in America. That is NOT true.
But Black protestors are not throwing White on white crime in your faces. They are complaining about cops killing unarmed Blacks and not being held accountable.
That is a fair grievance to complain about. BTW, I have a question for you. If cops have saturated Black neighborhoods so much in the past 40 years how was it possible that all those Black on Black homicides occurred under their noses? Something doesn't compute here. And considering that most of those murders go unsolved. it raises the question that the cops might be clandestinely involved somehow.
What white on white crime?
Nothing ever happens in my neighborhood.
Duh! Some trailer parks are crime free I guess!Why would you expect BLM or any other Black organization to complain about Black on Black crime when Whites completely ignore White on White crime?Black Lives Matter doesn't control the airwaves white people do. You see and hear only what white controlled media allows you to see and hear. BLM does protest Black on Black crime and murder but you have to get off ghe mainstream media to see or hear it.The Black Lives Matter and the Black Grievance Industry ignore such incidents like the plague because they don't want to admit the what's causing the senseless slaughter of blacks killing blacks is rooted in the violent culture in which many many young blacks are raised. Violence is everyday behavior they learn in their homes from older family members and they simply emulate it as youngsters and take it to the streets as they mature.
Change can only come from within but there isn't a race pimp that will even acknowledge it let alone do anything about it. Too easy to blame whitey instead.
Really? They could post that all over youtube or liveleak but no, I hear them railing against whitey and nary a peep about the crime endemic in the black community.
White on White crime is as endemic or more so than is Black on Black crime in America but your media focuses on the latter with such intensity the entire entire world has come to associate Blacks with ALL the violence in America. That is NOT true.
But Black protestors are not throwing White on white crime in your faces. They are complaining about cops killing unarmed Blacks and not being held accountable.
That is a fair grievance to complain about. BTW, I have a question for you. If cops have saturated Black neighborhoods so much in the past 40 years how was it possible that all those Black on Black homicides occurred under their noses? Something doesn't compute here. And considering that most of those murders go unsolved. it raises the question that the cops might be clandestinely involved somehow.
What white on white crime?
Nothing ever happens in my neighborhood.
There was a brief story on the news today, and that will be that. No outcry from Obama, not a peep from Black Lives Matter. This is every Father's worst nightmare. He raised a great kid who was headed back to college and now he's dead. Over 2,100 shootings in Chicago THIS YEAR.
Chicago Police Officer's Son Shot And Killed
