Censorship

i hear ya.... and i agree with a lot of what you said.

ive just noticed that since the "incident", things have seemed to get a bit more... picky i guess is the word.. as if the janet "incident" sparked something. is it fair to assume that?


who regulates magazines? FCC? you know a kid can buy Maxim no problem, its not 18+.

i guess it seems like some things are highly enforced and some are not. it seems to me that when a special interest group bitches about a certain event, that event or program feels the wrath.

i understand your logic about the many avenues tv can open up and i certainly agree with that. i guess it really does fall on your particular morals as to what you think is decent and indecent.

as far as commenting on children, i suppose i should have some before i assume whats decent or not for them, so ill concede that point. YOU would know better than I on this. i think that everything should be enforced tho, not picking and choosing what is decent and what is not. would you agree on a set of guidelines that are nonprejudicial?

example: the hated howard stern has a "raunchy" show, but its his right to air it. i remember him getting fined for the exact same thing that oprah said, but she didnt get a fine and the reason was this.. she didnt receive a fine because she's "decent and wholesome". now, we can easily take the "well howard stern is meaning to be raunchy and oprah was just describing something.." BTW they were talking about "salad tossing" if you know what that is.. not a very oprah-esque topic... anyways, she wasn't fined because they said the public views her in that sense.

now is that discrimination with the censorship law? technically, id say it is.. do laws have exceptions for "decent" people? it just doesnt seem fair. i feel like if your going to have a law, you have to enforce it for everyone and there should be no exemption.

its like someone robbing a store for the pleasure of it.. then someone robbing a store because they are dead broke and are starving. they are both going to jail for committing that crime. is that a safe assumption?

BTW, im not advocating howard stern, i just thought that was a good example.
 
Mainframe said:
..what's with the insult? couldn't get your point across without slinging something eh?

besides, how does that even remotely resemble my remarks? you took that to the very extreme.

its still censorship. thats what i said. and see that "technically"? yeah. technically, thats what it is. i never said anything or even HINTED towards your remark.
but thanks for the random insult. im sure it made your day.

What insult--I asked you a question--is my suggestion ok with you or not?
 
i guess you sling without even noticing? Merlin?


i already answered you. but i guess you actually need to read "NO I DONT THINK THATS OK"

and its not even what i suggested.

:trolls:
 
Mainframe said:
i guess you sling without even noticing? Merlin?


i already answered you. but i guess you actually need to read "NO I DONT THINK THATS OK"

and its not even what i suggested.

:trolls:

Apparently you think that asking you a question is an insult (i'll just ignore your troll icon). My question had a purpose and was not to insult. You're gonna need some thicker skin to last here
 
im not sure why you cant read this..

ready?

Mainframe said:
i guess you sling without even noticing? Merlin?


i already answered you. but i guess you actually need to read "NO I DONT THINK THATS OK"

and its not even what i suggested.

:trolls:
 
who do i think should draw the line?


im sorry i dont fully understand.

are you asking if the FCC or the parents should draw the line on decency?


please elaborate.
 
Mainframe said:
Its getting more and more strict.. I think thats something everyone can agree on.


How do you all feel on the issue?

your original question leaves it wide open. Which type of censorship are you referring to?
 
Yeah, I know, it was too general. That's why I reiterated.

my next post was:

Mainframe said:
Just in general.. I should've noted that.


TV, Radio, Music, etc..

Im just looking for discussion and other people's views. It interests me to see what someone thinks on a subject I feel passionate about.

All Im really looking for is reasons why you (you as in everyone) think the current state of censorship is good/bad/doesnt matter.
 
Mainframe said:
Yeah, I know, it was too general. That's why I reiterated.

my next post was:



Im just looking for discussion and other people's views. It interests me to see what someone thinks on a subject I feel passionate about.

All Im really looking for is reasons why you (you as in everyone) think the current state of censorship is good/bad/doesnt matter.

Are you only referring to censoring sexual matter?
 
sex... "suggestive scenes" that could be simulated drug use, cursing, violence, images, etc..
 
Mainframe said:
sex... "suggestive scenes" that could be simulated drug use, cursing, violence, images, etc..

Personally I think there is too much sexuality and I'm glad it's regulated to a certain extent. Like it or not----regulation keeps a society healthy when appropriately applied. Any adult can right now find all the porn they want with the press of a button. Does that mean this right should be forced on those who chose not to watch?
 
No, of course not. Your response is on point.

"forced" tho, is a harsh word. no one is forcing anyone to watch anything. as easy as it is to click on the channel, its just as easy to click off. they even have parental blocks on tv's and such.

I guess here's the REAL dilemma...


Where does censorship cross the lines of Free Speech?




and is that Jerry Garcia on your avatar?
 
Mainframe said:
No, of course not. Your response is on point.

I guess here's the dilemma...


Where does censorship cross the lines of Free Speech?




and is that Jerry Garcia on your avatar?

That question will never get a final answer. Lawyers and judges change the standards all the time with the public having a say so.

yup thats jerry alright !
 
yeah i suppose it is an ongoing dilemma.



ha! i thought i recognized good ole' jerry. man i miss that guy. those shows were second to none. phish has nothing on the dead :)
 

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