Celebrity Political Involvement -- Is it helping or Hurting?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bigbroodmaster, Oct 29, 2008.

  1. bigbroodmaster
    Offline

    bigbroodmaster Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ratings:
    +3
    I have been browsing Youtube looking at different things on the election, and I've noticed that Rock the Vote is doing a bit of a Youtube blitz. I was sort of wondering what other people thought about celebrities and their role in promoting, contributing to, and talking about the election.

    I know that many people take a stance that says celebrities only think one way (liberal) and that they try and push that ideology on other people, but I think the opposite way. I mean, look at this video:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOk9B1hYr4g]YouTube - Flobots Rock the Vote PSA[/ame]

    Flobots are a pretty liberal band, but you wouldn't get that from that PSA. They're basically just telling people to go out and vote.

    Other celebrities don't have a secret agenda at all. They don't overtly support one side or the other, and they're just genuinely telling people to go out and vote like here:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvpLaMdc3M]YouTube - Buckethead & Bootsy Collins (Rock The Vote)[/ame]

    Like, do you think that Bootsy Collins is trying to corrupt young minds with his syrupy sweet funk rhythms or something?

    I just think that a lot of the celebrity bashing that I hear going on is unwarranted.
     
  2. DiamondDave
    Offline

    DiamondDave Army Vet

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    18,169
    Thanks Received:
    2,812
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    MD, on the Potomac River
    Ratings:
    +2,816
    The day I take political advise from the likes of George Clooney or Tim Robbins is the day I go get checked for dementia
     
  3. xsited1
    Offline

    xsited1 Agent P

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,750
    Thanks Received:
    5,300
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Location:
    Little Rock, AR
    Ratings:
    +5,307
    There is no doubt it helps... the other candidate.
     
  4. bigbroodmaster
    Offline

    bigbroodmaster Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ratings:
    +3
    Are you just ignoring what people have to say, just because they happen to be famous?
     
  5. Andrew2382
    Offline

    Andrew2382 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    Messages:
    3,994
    Thanks Received:
    530
    Trophy Points:
    153
    Ratings:
    +537
    I think it helps a lot.

    I was sort of on the fence but when I heard Matt Damon was for Obama....that sealed it for me

    /facepalm
     
  6. bigbroodmaster
    Offline

    bigbroodmaster Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ratings:
    +3
    Well, that's pretty funny, but I mean, certain celebrities are pretty politically concious and have a real, educated position.

    Not all people might like what Bill Hicks has to say, but he's an example of someone who has an interesting, researched opinion.

    Going the other way, Charlton Heston was considered to be intelligent and important enough to be made the figurehead for the NRA. Arnold Schwarzenegger was made governer of California, based mainly around him being a celebrity.

    I would say that both Heston and Schwarzenegger could be seen as having successful political (Heston as a political lobbiest) careers.
     
  7. strollingbones
    Offline

    strollingbones Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,657
    Thanks Received:
    15,627
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    chicken farm
    Ratings:
    +31,973
    did you mean to leave out reagan?
     
  8. bigbroodmaster
    Offline

    bigbroodmaster Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ratings:
    +3
    Yes. He wasn't really all that famous as a celebrity, so I sort of hesitated to use him.

    My point being that celebrities have been a very important part of the political process, yet people (like the ones above) seem to pay them almost zero credence. Is there a reason for that?

    Is it because they're predominantly liberal?
     
  9. strollingbones
    Offline

    strollingbones Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,657
    Thanks Received:
    15,627
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    chicken farm
    Ratings:
    +31,973

    you havent been here long....the people above...welll you would pretty much expect that reaction from them. i am a liberal but found the celeb endorsements rather meaningless. Mr. Heston was an excellent spokesman for the NRA and slandered by those so called docudramas of michael moore's. before you can point the finger much at liberals you must know that rush is the darlin of the cons...rush is nothing more than a self promoting radio personality in all reality....but how the cons flock to him....or lets look at all the talking heads....from wolf to bill oreilly how much importance do they really have or deserve?
     
  10. Bern80
    Offline

    Bern80 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2004
    Messages:
    8,094
    Thanks Received:
    720
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Ratings:
    +726
    I think it's because they are considering a slighlty different context. That is the celebrities that just talk and have no credibility at all in what they say. Tim Robbins, Pink, Bill Mahr, Matt Damon, Natalie Portman, etc. have very little real intellect to go around.

    In contrast Reagan and Schwarennager have shown that they aren't complete idiots when it comes to politics. Though about the only celebrity I would encourage people to actually listen to would be Ben Stein. He is incredibly objective and actually does have the brains to back up what he says.
     

Share This Page