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Can someone explain to me why having to carry a us citizenship card at all times is considered such a bad idea. It personally think its a great idea.
Can someone explain to me why having to carry a us citizenship card at all times is considered such a bad idea. It personally think its a great idea.
Yes but a passport is all that you would need to prove your citizenship. Besides you can already be arrested by corrupt diplomat for being illegal. You can be held without reason for 72 hours as well. Im not saying its the only source of evidnce to prove citizenship just a card that someone can ask you to produce at any time like when you get pulled over.Can someone explain to me why having to carry a us citizenship card at all times is considered such a bad idea. It personally think its a great idea.
A citizenship card is a bad idea at the get go because it makes it far too easy to kind of sort of 'lose' the paperwork etc. in order to get one and then make a person's life miserable. Nor should immediate lack of one be justification for immediate arrest. .
Can someone explain to me why having to carry a us citizenship card at all times is considered such a bad idea. It personally think its a great idea.
You need an id card at all times dont you? To drive a car or use a creditcard. This would just be an extnsion of that.Why would I need proof of citizenship on me at all times?
You need an id card at all times dont you? To drive a car or use a creditcard. This would just be an extnsion of that.Why would I need proof of citizenship on me at all times?
I'm all for one that would replace a large part of what's in my wallet.... Driver's Licence, CCW Permit, Birth Certificate/SS Card, National ID, etc.... Hell, we could get the stores onboard with it and let them attach their "frequent shopper" discounts directly to that card number.
The only thing I would suggest should be separate is any FINANCIAL options (bank accounts, credit cards, etc...)
You need an id card at all times dont you? To drive a car or use a creditcard. This would just be an extnsion of that.Why would I need proof of citizenship on me at all times?
For those who are against a national ID card, it is all about privacy and not allowing the government to have too much information on us. The problem is that unless you are a hermit living in a cave, there is so much information out there already. Many can't even begin to imagine all the info available, and a lot of it isn't even correct. But it is out there. I understand the argument against it, but I really don't think it matters anymore. If the government wants info on an individual, they're going to get it.
Can someone explain to me why having to carry a us citizenship card at all times is considered such a bad idea. It personally think its a great idea.
A citizenship card is a bad idea at the get go because it makes it far too easy to kind of sort of 'lose' the paperwork etc. in order to get one and then make a person's life miserable. Nor should immediate lack of one be justification for immediate arrest. And yes, there are elected leaders and bureaucrats who are that dishonest.
But I do not think it unreasonable to ask ANY person in this country to provide positive proof of their identity when there is reasonable need to know such as in a routine traffic stop or entering a public building or receiving a boarding pass at the airport. And anybody's inability to provide positive proof of identity should be grounds for immediate further investigation.
Yes but a passport is all that you would need to prove your citizenship. Besides you can already be arrested by corrupt diplomat for being illegal. You can be held without reason for 72 hours as well. Im not saying its the only source of evidnce to prove citizenship just a card that someone can ask you to produce at any time like when you get pulled over.Can someone explain to me why having to carry a us citizenship card at all times is considered such a bad idea. It personally think its a great idea.
A citizenship card is a bad idea at the get go because it makes it far too easy to kind of sort of 'lose' the paperwork etc. in order to get one and then make a person's life miserable. Nor should immediate lack of one be justification for immediate arrest. .
I'm all for one that would replace a large part of what's in my wallet.... Driver's Licence, CCW Permit, Birth Certificate/SS Card, National ID, etc.... Hell, we could get the stores onboard with it and let them attach their "frequent shopper" discounts directly to that card number.
The only thing I would suggest should be separate is any FINANCIAL options (bank accounts, credit cards, etc...)
Exactly so its not that big of a jump. Not to mention with todays technology you could probley make in nearly forgeryprooof. It would simply help the government find illegals. Currently they cant ask people they suspect for fear of looking racist. But if everyone had that card they could ask a lot of people to avoid that.
Yes but a passport is all that you would need to prove your citizenship. Besides you can already be arrested by corrupt diplomat for being illegal. You can be held without reason for 72 hours as well. Im not saying its the only source of evidnce to prove citizenship just a card that someone can ask you to produce at any time like when you get pulled over.A citizenship card is a bad idea at the get go because it makes it far too easy to kind of sort of 'lose' the paperwork etc. in order to get one and then make a person's life miserable. Nor should immediate lack of one be justification for immediate arrest. .
If a person has no ID, then I agree further investigation would be justified. But any legitimate photo ID should otherwise be sufficient. True Americans value liberty above all else and will risk giving up any more of that to government control. Requiring us to carry ANYTHING at all times erodes a little more of our personal liberties.
Yes but a passport is all that you would need to prove your citizenship. Besides you can already be arrested by corrupt diplomat for being illegal. You can be held without reason for 72 hours as well. Im not saying its the only source of evidnce to prove citizenship just a card that someone can ask you to produce at any time like when you get pulled over.
If a person has no ID, then I agree further investigation would be justified. But any legitimate photo ID should otherwise be sufficient. True Americans value liberty above all else and will risk giving up any more of that to government control. Requiring us to carry ANYTHING at all times erodes a little more of our personal liberties.
You can buy a fake id for like 50 bucks im talking about something a little harder to forge.
I'm all for one that would replace a large part of what's in my wallet.... Driver's Licence, CCW Permit, Birth Certificate/SS Card, National ID, etc.... Hell, we could get the stores onboard with it and let them attach their "frequent shopper" discounts directly to that card number.
The only thing I would suggest should be separate is any FINANCIAL options (bank accounts, credit cards, etc...)
Exactly so its not that big of a jump. Not to mention with todays technology you could probley make in nearly forgeryprooof. It would simply help the government find illegals. Currently they cant ask people they suspect for fear of looking racist. But if everyone had that card they could ask a lot of people to avoid that.
Why not just cut the crap and make it so any Hispanic looking person has to have proof of citizenship on them at all times and available to any LEO request at any time. That's what this is really about. Be real. There aren't any cops that suspect a white person might be an illegal Canadian immigrant.