Carry choice question

[2aguy]

A safe gun culture does not carry loaded guns in public, that's why American gun mentality has a gun culture problem and incident levels to match.

Your culture murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children.. in just 6 years.

Gun murder in the U.S. over our entire 246 year history...about 2,460,000

It will take us hundreds of years to catch up to your rate of murder...

So who are you to lecture us?

 

[2aguy]

A safe gun culture does not carry loaded guns in public, that's why American gun mentality has a gun culture problem and incident levels to match.

So......you prfer that women are raped in parking lots and alley ways instead of saving themselves with a gun....

you are sick

 

[miketx]

So......you prfer that women are raped in parking lots and alley ways instead of saving themselves with a gun....

you are sick

These pieces shit would rather a woman be raped and murdered than for her to shoot her attacker. I can only wish they get what they want to put on society.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Who told you that?

Safe gun cultures.

 

[miketx]

Safe gun cultures.

No such thing.

 

[Vastator]

Safe gun cultures.

Do those same cultures offer safe abortions? Lol!

 

[2aguy]

Safe gun cultures.

Again...

Europe murdered 15 million innocent people in just 6 years.

Gun murder in the U.S. over our entire 246 year history.....around 2,460,000

Your murder rate is far higher than ours......

1) how do you expect to keep it from happening again since you guys don't have guns?

2) how many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up to your murder rate?

3) Since Europe has a worse murder history than the U.S., why should we surrender our guns to our government?

 

[Captain Caveman]

With any luck one of the criminals you enjoy so much will rid us of you.

Ah, you defaulting that tiny percentage problem but you feel it's epidemic. Poor child.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Do those same cultures offer safe abortions? Lol!

Yes, in hospitals and not in back streets via coat hangers.

 

[2aguy]

Ah, you defaulting that tiny percentage problem but you feel it's epidemic. Poor child.

And you still don't address the mass murder elephant in the European room....

 

[Vastator]

Yes, in hospitals and not in back streets via coat hangers.

I'm sure the dead children rest easy knowing their killers have an easy go of it...

 

[Captain Caveman]

I'm sure the dead children rest easy knowing their killers have an easy go of it...

Abortions should be banned. Abortions due to rape accounts for less than 1%, probably still greater than you get murdered from all of your enemies and criminals.

 

[Captain Caveman]

These pieces shit would rather a woman be raped and murdered than for her to shoot her attacker. I can only wish they get what they want to put on society.

Very few women carry against rape. Plus, get up to speed on your own domestics -

Giving women guns wouldn't prevent rape: it would land women in jail | Jessica Valenti

I shouldn't have to be constantly schooling you retards.

 

[miketx]

Very few women carry against rape. Plus, get up to speed on your own domestics -

Giving women guns wouldn't prevent rape: it would land women in jail | Jessica Valenti

I shouldn't have to be constantly schooling you retards.

Lying pos.

 

[miketx]

Ah, you defaulting that tiny percentage problem but you feel it's epidemic. Poor child.

Leftist bullshit babble like always.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Abortions should be banned. Abortions due to rape accounts for less than 1%, probably still greater than you get murdered from all of your enemies and criminals.

Nonsense.

Whether in the UK or US – big government, authoritarian conservatives are all the same: more government at the expense of individual liberty.

 

[miketx]

Nonsense.

Whether in the UK or US – big government, authoritarian conservatives are all the same: more government at the expense of individual liberty.

This ain't the abortion thread liar.

 

[2aguy]

Very few women carry against rape. Plus, get up to speed on your own domestics -

Giving women guns wouldn't prevent rape: it would land women in jail | Jessica Valenti

I shouldn't have to be constantly schooling you retards.

And that is stupid.....

Women in the U.S. have been one of the groups with the lowest percentage of gun carrying in the country...that is changing.

That you would prefer they are raped, than use a gun to save themselves is quite telling....

People like this West Virginia woman who stopped what could have become a mass shooting just a day after Uvalde.

Police said a woman who was lawfully carrying a pistol shot and killed a man who began shooting at a crowd of people Wednesday night in Charleston.
Dennis Butler was killed after allegedly shooting at dozens of people attending a graduation party Wednesday near the Vista View Apartment complex. No injuries were reported from those at the party.
Investigators said Butler was warned about speeding in the area with children present before he left. He later returned with an AR-15-style firearm and began firing into the crowd before he was shot and killed.
“Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Charleston Police Department Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett said.
Officers did not go into detail, but said Butler did have an extensive criminal history.

West Virginia armed citizen stops potential mass shooting
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016...-gun-violence-awareness-day.html?intcmp=hpbt4
Lancaster Woman Scares Off Bat-Wielding Attackers By Pulling Gun On Them

LANCASTER, Ohio - It happened along a walking path in Lancaster.

Dinah Burns is licensed to carry a concealed gun, but she'd only recently started taking her weapon while walking her dog.

Based on what happened, it looks like she'll make a point of carrying from now on.

"I think if they'd gotten any closer, I probably would have fired,” said Burns.

It was Monday when Burns was on a footpath near Sanderson Elementary School.

"Two gentlemen came out of the woods, one holding a baseball bat, and said 'You're coming with us'."

The men weren't deterred by Dinah's dog Gracie.

"I said, 'Well, what do you want?,' and as I was saying that I reached in to my pocket and slipped my gun out, slipped the safety off as I pulled it out. As I was doing that the other gentleman came toward me and raised the baseball bat. And, I pointed the gun at them and said, 'I have this and I'm not afraid to use it.'"

The men took off and so far have eluded police. Dinah posted about the incident on Facebook to alert friends and neighbors, to criticism by some.

"Most of the males' opinion was, 'Why didn't you shoot them?'"

Easy to second-guess a decision made under pressure, based on her concealed carry training, and police agree.

"To get out of a situation, back out, get out of it as much as you can without having to discharge your firearm."

"I will say it's a good thing to go from a place of danger to a place of safety, however you get that done,” said Sgt. Matt Chambers, Lancaster Police.

"Very thankful that it turned out the way it did, and hope it doesn't happen again, but I will be prepared."
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What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day | Fox News

What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day

I correctly listened to my instincts; I had a feeling that my life was in danger in that elevator and prepared myself mentally for what was potentially to come.

I ran to my car in an attempt to escape and, before I could even get my entire body in my car, I was tackled by my attacker.

This man quickly overpowered me, stabbed at me with a knife, clamped his hand over my mouth multiple times, and repeatedly tried forcing me in the passenger seat of my car while telling me, “We’re going.”

The entire time this was happening, a rusted, serrated knife was being stabbed towards my abdomen and held at my face.

I had been hit in the face, thrown over my driver’s side console, and had rips in my tights from his hands trying to force my legs up and over into the passenger seat.

There are some individuals that think gun owners are “trigger happy” and wanting to pull their weapons out at the first opportunity. There is nothing further from the truth.

The night I was attacked, I fought like hell for my life before reaching for my gun. I kicked, I screamed, I had all ten fingernails ripped off and bloodied from scratching and trying to fight my way out of a literal life and death situation.

Ultimately, I accessed my gun, shot my attacker multiple times, and saved my life. He will be spending years in prison for what he did to me.

Using a gun in self-protection is not a decision one makes lightly; in fact, I never dreamed that I would be forced into a situation where I would have to do so. However, I also never imagined such evil existing in the world so that I would be powerless, wounded, on my back and unable to physically force my attacker off of me.

I owned a gun and had been trained on how to use it. I know how to safely carry and that a gun is a serious and significant weapon; it is not to be used carelessly. Naysayers and people with opposing opinions may try to undermine my situation with hypotheticals. I cannot answer these questions. All I can do is tell the facts of my story and the true account of how I saved my own life.

What I want you to know on Gun Awareness Day is that a gun in the hands of a potential victim is not improperly placed; it can be the only thing keeping her from being brutally raped and murdered.

Without my gun, I would not be alive today.


Guns are not the problem in America; men like my attacker -- who are willing to violently change one person’s life for no reason except for pure evil – are the problem.

Be safe at all times. Be aware of your surroundings. Trust your instincts. Always be able to protect yourself. Refuse to be a victim, and instead be a fighter and a survivor. Live to tell your tale and make a criminal regret the day he chose you as a “soft target.” My gun saved my life, and one could save yours too.
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Waking up to an armed intruder in your house would be any home owner’s worst nightmare. If you’re a single mother with two young kids in the house, finding a man wielding a machete in your bedroom closet immediately kicks you into “momma bear” mode.

That’s what happened to a California woman who woke up to the sound of a man rummaging through her walk-in closet. The thief — Ocean Burger (his name, not a restaurant) — was armed with a number of knives and a machete when the un-named woman grabbed a handgun and confronted him.

From ksbw.com . . .


[Investigators] say Burger ignored orders to leave and when the homeowner fired several warning shots he allegedly advanced towards her, that’s when the mother fired at the accused burglar hitting him in the leg. And California law may be on her side.

Warning shots are never a good idea and could even put you in legal jeopardy in many jurisdictions. In this case, they not only wasted perfectly good (and expensive) ammunition, but probably led Burger to believe she wasn’t serious about actually shooting him.

After advancing on the woman, the round in his leg apparently convinced Burger that he was wrong.

The good news is California actually has a castle doctrine law on the books. The woman had no duty to retreat and was legally justified in using deadly force to defend herself and her children.

“There is a presumption that favors the homeowner they’re presumed that the person is in imminent fear of either death or great bodily injury,” said Ellen Campos, assistant district attorney for San Benito county. …

California Woman Shoots Machete-Wielding Burglar She Found in Her Closet - The Truth About Guns

 

[2aguy]

Very few women carry against rape. Plus, get up to speed on your own domestics -

Giving women guns wouldn't prevent rape: it would land women in jail | Jessica Valenti

I shouldn't have to be constantly schooling you retards.

American women are not listening to your dumb crap....

While White men still represent the largest group of gun owners in the US, women, and specifically Black women, represent a growing share of the market.
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Many of the newly armed women say that having a firearm allows them to take their safety into their own hands. Black women experience domestic violence and other violent crimes at disproportionately higher rates than White women. The murder rate for Black women is more than double the rate for White women in the US, according to a report from the Violence Policy Center.
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Nearly half of the new gun owners were women and a fifth of those were Black, according to the survey. A separate survey by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, an industry trade group, found that 87% of sellers reported an increase in Black women purchasers in the first half of 2021.

Black Women Represent Growing Share of US Gun Owners

Many of the recently armed women say that having a firearm allows them to take safety into their own hands

www.bloomberg.com

British women will simply have to just sit back, relax, and hope that after the rape, they are not simply tortured and murdered by their attackers....

American women have an option that can prevent all of that...

 

[2aguy]

Very few women carry against rape. Plus, get up to speed on your own domestics -

Giving women guns wouldn't prevent rape: it would land women in jail | Jessica Valenti

I shouldn't have to be constantly schooling you retards.

And these women also disagree with you......

CCW IN ACTION: Armed 22-Year-Old Woman Stops Three Men Attempting To Rob Her In Store Parking Lot – Concealed Nation

OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA — A concealed carrier successfully thwarted the efforts of three men to rob her late at night outside a Dollar Tree. According to police reports from the scene, the woman was exiting the Dollar Tree and heading to her car when she was approached by a man and asked to walk with him. When she refused, he point-blank told her he was going to rob her of her purse.

At this point, according to KOCO, she was presented by two other men backing up the first. She withdrew her concealed carry pistol from her purse and threatened to use it to protect herself. All three men quickly exited and fled the scene.
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Woman Scares off Assailant With Stick. Just Kidding, it was a gun.

Just before 7pm on Wednesday night, a 29 year-old woman had gathered up her dog and headed outside to… well, to let her dog do what dogs do.

Upon her first step outside her Minot, North Dakota home, she was hit solidly in the face with a blunt object, knocking her backward down the stairs and into her home.

Her assailant followed her into her home and started to approach her, but the woman had made it to a cabinet where she retrieved a handgun to protect herself and her home.

When confronted with the firearm, the violent intruder and would-be robber/rapist/murderer fled the scene.

The smart, independent, gun-owning woman did not require medical attention, most likely due to the fact that she was able to pull a weapon on her assailant to end the attack.
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