Capitalism Guarantees Rising Inequality

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    What governments are not "under the corrupting influence of large private fortunes" other than socialist economic basket cases like Somalia or Liberia?
     
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    Can you post a link to the title that shows these people purchased the government?
     
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    Actually, let's be really clear on what 'economic freedom' means. There's not much point in conversation if the terms aren't clear.

    What I mean by economic freedom is the right to conduct voluntary trade with others free from interference. As long as such transactions are agreed to voluntarily, and conducted honestly, the details of the exchange are no one else's business. That means I can work for whomever will agree to pay me, for whatever terms we can mutually agree to. I don't have to ask the state for permission and neither does my employer. It means I can purchase goods and services from others without approval from outside interests. It means I can pay someone else to work for me regardless of whether a third party thinks they're 'qualified'. It means I can go to any doctor who will see me, regardless of whether other doctors, or my neighbors, or the government, thinks that doctor is a "quack". It means I decide how to invest my money and save for the future regardless of whether the lobbyists of the insurance industry, or my neighbors, or the government, thinks I'm "doing it right". It means I can buy and consume whatever food and drugs I want regardless of whether the lobbyists of the food and drug industry, my neighbors, or the government, approves of my decision.

    It means pressure groups don't get to use legislation to manipulate markets in their favor, regardless of the excuse.
     
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    No economic entity can exist without government.
    Collectives REQUIRE DICTATORS to function for any long period of time.
    Government's primary purpose is to provide security to its citizens, and part of that security is PROTECTING PRIVATE PROPERTY; property of individuals, collectives (corporate share holders), or any other legal entity. Effectively, proper security protects private property from the GOVERNMENT ITSELF OR OTHER ENTITIES.
     
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    Gosh, now you want to reduce the power of government, dictatorial government is an absolute requirement for your other dream, SOCIALISM. Regulation is very acceptable, dictatorship as required by SOCIALISM is not. Therefore, SOCIALISM IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE.
     
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    That is unmitigated horse crap. It is common left wing propaganda used to scare people into believing that the 1% are omnipotent. They are not, and they are not appreciably more wealthy than the average upper middle class. The tiny 1/100 of that 1% are very wealthy, but cannot run the government. There is obviously some influence on individuals using their money for campaigns, but it stops there.
     
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    Almost all governments, look at the Soviet Union, for example, with a small, but very rich elite. So not only the US and other capitalist countries have governments that help the very wealthy, but communist countries can be just as bad.
     
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    The Soviet Union and all Marxist governments are worse than the US and generate wealth only for the politicians.
     
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    Corporations have the power to pre-select the candidates you vote for.
    They use this same power to drive down wages, foreclose opportunity, and raise prices. They transfer wealth from consumers, workers, and entrepreneurs to rich execs and shareholders.
     
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    Every government ever conceived as served its richest citizens at the expense of its majority. Only the US has to potential to change that peacefully at the ballot box.
    But not by "choosing" either Democrat OR Republican.
     

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