The Russians spent ten years bleeding in Afghanistan and ignominiously withdrew. The Taliban, a brutal band of self righteous thugs then wrested control of Afghanistan, killing thousands of their own people in the process.. The Northern Alliance, a loose confederation opposed to the Taliban could not dislodge them. After the invasion by the US and it's partners, the Taliban was defeated but the new government was and still is ineffective and corrupt. The Taliban are returning with a vengeance. Ten years have elapsed and the Taliban are still killing their countrymen, wrecking havoc on reconstruction and inhibiting law and order. How can they do that? Are the Afghan people completely cowed by the Taliban so they won't fight back? There isn't an overwhelming number of Taliban fighters, but their tactics are winning the day. Something is very, very wrong with the way the good guys are spending capital, lives and not getting a return for the bang. It's day after day, month after month, year after year and now a decade later we are no closer to ending this war. That's the definition of insanity, right? Keep doing things the same way but expect a different result? I no longer support the notion that we are defending freedom or protecting the US, we are just bleeding, just as the Russians did more than a decade ago. And, we still can't find Osama Bin Laden, the reason we are there in the first place. I say declare victory, pull out and leave with the warning "don't do that again or we'll be back". Do you think the Tallban want us back? They were content to beat up on the women until OBL moved in. Maybe they won't let him back in, do ya think?