Afghan Newlyweds Stoned To Death

[Madeline]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/world/asia/17stoning.html?hp

I don't even know where to begin. Some of the people throwing stones were members of their own families. How is this even possible?

 

[The Infidel]

Hmmm.... could it be




SATAN? ​

 

[LuckyDan]

Maybe they shouldn't have been there to begin with?

 

[AllieBaba]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/world/asia/17stoning.html?hp

I don't even know where to begin. Some of the people throwing stones were members of their own families. How is this even possible?

B-b-but...violence is a rarity in Islam!

Except, of course, where Islam has eliminated all mitigating influence and is allowed to be fully itself...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Islam, a religion of peace. Just keep saying that while you and others make excuses for their actions, all SANCTIONED by their religious leaders.

The RELIGION is the problem. It teaches people to behave this way. It teaches them that only Islam is acceptable. It teaches them to treat women like property. To murder people that disobey religious edicts.

All of you dumb asses that keep claiming only a small part of Islam is dangerous explain why you can not understand they want us converted or dead by ANY means. They murder their own people for MARRYING each other. They murder women for daring to go in public without a male family member escorting them. They murder their own FAMILY members when ordered to by Islamic clerics.

Yet you have a problem understanding how they could murder unbelievers, How they could lie to unbelievers. You all need to WAKE the FUCK UP.

 

[The Infidel]

Islam, a religion of peace. Just keep saying that while you and others make excuses for their actions, all SANCTIONED by their religious leaders.

The RELIGION is the problem. It teaches people to behave this way. It teaches them that only Islam is acceptable. It teaches them to treat women like property. To murder people that disobey religious edicts.

All of you dumb asses that keep claiming only a small part of Islam is dangerous explain why you can not understand they want us converted or dead by ANY means. They murder their own people for MARRYING each other. They murder women for daring to go in public without a male family member escorting them. They murder their own FAMILY members when ordered to by Islamic clerics.

Yet you have a problem understanding how they could murder unbelievers, How they could lie to unbelievers. You all need to WAKE the FUCK UP.

 

[Kat]

“People were very happy seeing this,” Mr. Khan maintained, saying the crowd was festive and cheered during the stoning. The couple, he said, “did a bad thing.”

 

[The Infidel]

“People were very happy seeing this,” Mr. Khan maintained, saying the crowd was festive and cheered during the stoning. The couple, he said, “did a bad thing.”

Celebrating death.... just plain sick!

 

[Madeline]

Look, I didn't post this so that anti-Muslim bigotry could get another hearing. In fact, I have known about it all day and hesitated to post it because I was afraid of that very thing. I don't claim to have any great understanding of the Muslim religion, but even I can see this happened because of the Taliban and not because the people were Muslims.

I read some of this shit written on here and can so clearly remember the adults around me, discarding the possibility than North Vietnamese, or blacks, or Puerto Ricans, or Italians, ad nauseum, were as human as you and me. I reacted then as I do now: my skin crawls as I hear yet another person assign a group to the human dump because they are "too different".

So, if it is at all possible could we please discuss why this happened? Can anything be done to change this culture? Should the US leave Afghanistan while women's rights are so endangered?

 

[syrenn]

Only men doing the stoning? Amazing. And just think they want to being Shariah law here. Will this all be part of the "cultural center" in NYC too?

What is wrong with these people.

 

[AllieBaba]

Yeah, this stuff NEVER happens in "civilized" Muslim countries...like Darfur, the Sudan, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, or Iran.

Because it's all about the Taliban. Not about Islam at ALL.

Face the facts. Islam works to fit in until such time as it acquires enough power to squelch all other doctrines and political parties, establish sharia, and reveal it's true face.

 

[AllieBaba]

Only men doing the stoning? Amazing. And just think they want to being Shariah law here. Will this all be part of the "cultural center" in NYC too?

What is wrong with these people.

They're animals.
And they don't deserve protection. They deserve censure and, when warranted, death.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Look, I didn't post this so that anti-Muslim bigotry could get another hearing. In fact, I have known about it all day and hesitated to post it because I was afraid of that very thing. I don't claim to have any great understanding of the Muslim religion, but even I can see this happened because of the Taliban and not because the people were Muslims.

I read some of this shit written on here and can so clearly remember the adults around me, discarding the possibility than North Vietnamese, or blacks, of Puerto Ricans, or Italians, ad nauseum, were as human as you and me. I reacted then as I do now: my skin crawls as I hear yet another person assign a group to the human dump because they are "too different".

So, if it is at all possible could we please discuss why this happened? Can anything be done to change this culture? Should the US leave Afghanistan while women's rights are so endangered?

You are BEYOND stupid. ISLAM is EXACTLY why it happened. Not the Taliban. Hell read your own story, A Muslim cleric not even a follower of the Taliban AGREED that the proper response for unsanctioned sex ( marriage) IS STONING.

The RELIGION is the reason the ruling was made and it was MADE by ISLAMIC Clerics. Followed and carried out by ISLAMIC followers.

Good god the abject STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE is APPALLING.

It does NOT just happen in Afghanistan. It happens in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, Egypt, Indonesia, and even in Canada , the USA, and Europe. And what is the common denominator? THE RELIGION.

 

[syrenn]

Look, I didn't post this so that anti-Muslim bigotry could get another hearing. In fact, I have known about it all day and hesitated to post it because I was afraid of that very thing. I don't claim to have any great understanding of the Muslim religion, but even I can see this happened because of the Taliban and not because the people were Muslims.

I read some of this shit written on here and can so clearly remember the adults around me, discarding the possibility than North Vietnamese, or blacks, of Puerto Ricans, or Italians, ad nauseum, were as human as you and me. I reacted then as I do now: my skin crawls as I hear yet another person assign a group to the human dump because they are "too different".

So, if it is at all possible could we please discuss why this happened? Can anything be done to change this culture? Should the US leave Afghanistan while women's rights are so endangered?

It is a culture of men.
Men who have ordered a world to suit their needs.
It is a perverted version of their religion.

Yes, we should leave them to kill each other. If they want change then they should stand up and do something about it themselves.

 

[Madeline]

WTF did anyone get stoned to death in the US?????

Leave aside the bickering a moment, RetiredGySgt. This didn't happen in secret. Aren't US troops there, engaging in "nation building"? Why didn't they prevent this?

 

[AllieBaba]

In the US it's honor killings, nitwit. And abduction.

 

[AllieBaba]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xs7oKrG7Pc]YouTube - Girl's dying words after daddy shot her (very sad)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j8WLzZmAtk]YouTube - U.S. Muslim Beheads Wife. Sharia Law and Honor Killings in America, What's Next![/ame]

 

[The Infidel]

Maybe what Madeline was trying to ask is..... Can we change the culture militarliy.

I think there needs to be an awakening in Islam itself.

The American soldiers cant stop what they dont know about.... The villagers need to stop it themselves. We cant be everywhere to stop all the badguys from doing what they do.

This has got to be done by the Afghan people themselves.

We cant change the hearts and minds of anyone no sooner than a pretty girl can change a "badboy". The badboy has to want to change himself for the better....thats the only way he will change.

As long as people stay in the 5th century... they will behave in that way, and never learn to be a part of civilization.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

WTF did anyone get stoned to death in the US?????

Leave aside the bickering a moment, RetiredGySgt. This didn't happen in secret. Aren't US troops there, engaging in "nation building"? Why didn't they prevent this?

Here in the US Fathers have murdered their daughters because of Islam. Just with in the last year there was a major story about a father that ran his daughter over cause she wouldn't dress and act the way he felt was proper within the religion.

Any major hub of Muslim immigrants has similar stories. They just don't make major headlines.

YOUR OWN STORY pointed out that Muslim Clerics NOT Taliban members agreed that stoning to death was the proper punishment for unsanctioned sex ( as in unsanctioned marriage).

YOUR story pointed out that MUSLIMS even family members participated in the RELIGIOUS edict to stone the Couple.

 

[AllieBaba]

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