Can someone show me ONE liberal ideal that has actually worked?

[xsited1]

Can someone show me ONE liberal ideal that has actually worked?

The EPA has done some good. Oh, wait... That was proposed by President Richard Nixon.

Still thinking...

And? It's a still a liberal program. The right has been trying to gut it for years.

Oh please! The EPA in its original form was not a liberal program. The environmental Leftists of today aren't serious about allowing scientific concensus to dictate federal policy. These wackos are more like witchdoctors than anything else. The only thing the 'Right' wants to 'gut' is Leftist BS.

 

[Polk]

The EPA has done some good. Oh, wait... That was proposed by President Richard Nixon.

Still thinking...

And? It's a still a liberal program. The right has been trying to gut it for years.

Oh please! The EPA in its original form was not a liberal program. The environmental Leftists of today aren't serious about allowing scientific concensus to dictate federal policy. These wackos are more like witchdoctors than anything else. The only thing the 'Right' wants to 'gut' is Leftist BS.

Who is serious about scientific consensus? You?

 

[rightwinger]

•women’s rights
•civil rights
•Voting Rights Act
•regulation of banks and stock brokerage firms
•a minimum wage
•Child Labor Act
•regulation of the stock exchanges
•labor rights – collective bargaining
•National Parks and monuments -Death Valley, Everglades, Blue Ridge, Boulder Dam, Bull Run, Mount Rushmore, Cape Cod
•Tennessee Valley Authority
•Rural electrification
•the GI Bill providing education to thousands upon thousands of veterans
•Housing loans for vets
•FHA housing loans
•The SBA (Small Business Administration)
•Unemployment insurance
•Medicare
•Peace Corp
•Social Security
•National Endowment for the Arts
•LEGAL ALCOHOL

 

[Mr Natural]

•women’s rights
•civil rights
•Voting Rights Act
•regulation of banks and stock brokerage firms
•a minimum wage
•Child Labor Act
•regulation of the stock exchanges
•labor rights – collective bargaining
•National Parks and monuments -Death Valley, Everglades, Blue Ridge, Boulder Dam, Bull Run, Mount Rushmore, Cape Cod
•Tennessee Valley Authority
•Rural electrification
•the GI Bill providing education to thousands upon thousands of veterans
•Housing loans for vets
•FHA housing loans
•The SBA (Small Business Administration)
•Unemployment insurance
•Medicare
•Peace Corp
•Social Security
•National Endowment for the Arts
•LEGAL ALCOHOL

I think our conservatives friends would consider these accomplishments to be failures at best and unconstitutional at worst.

 

[rightwinger]

•women’s rights
•civil rights
•Voting Rights Act
•regulation of banks and stock brokerage firms
•a minimum wage
•Child Labor Act
•regulation of the stock exchanges
•labor rights – collective bargaining
•National Parks and monuments -Death Valley, Everglades, Blue Ridge, Boulder Dam, Bull Run, Mount Rushmore, Cape Cod
•Tennessee Valley Authority
•Rural electrification
•the GI Bill providing education to thousands upon thousands of veterans
•Housing loans for vets
•FHA housing loans
•The SBA (Small Business Administration)
•Unemployment insurance
•Medicare
•Peace Corp
•Social Security
•National Endowment for the Arts
•LEGAL ALCOHOL

I think our conservatives friends would consider these accomplishments to be failures at best and unconstitutional at worst.

Yes they would....until they had to list accomplishments of conservatives

 

[Immanuel]

Here's one you all seem to have forgotten.

The complete humiliation and damned near destruction of the GOP... or did the GOP do that all by themselves? I suppose that is a matter of opinion.

Immie

 

[Brubricker]

I think our conservatives friends would consider these accomplishments to be failures at best and unconstitutional at worst.

Success = failure if it costs a whole lot of tax money (wars excepted). This is the most basic conservative idea there is. It's also the reason they can never hold onto to power for very long. That one idea renders them incapable of serving the demands of the people so they inevitably get tossed out after brief stints in charge. This is why Congress has been dominated by the Democrats for most of the past 80 years.

 

[The T]

I'd rather pay my union dues and make what I'm making and work under the conditions I work under than make what my non-union counterparts make for the sake of having my union dues back in my pocket.

And have the Unions make contributions to those that YOU may not agree?

Face FACT. Unions are Corporations unto themselves that they decry.

Some union contributions:

40 hour work week
Overtime pay
Minimum wage
Paid Vacation
Safety
Child Labor laws

All things conservatives fought every step of the way.

PROVE your assertion. You cannot.

 

[Modbert]

One Liberal Ideal that has worked?

The United States of America.

 

[The T]

I think our conservatives friends would consider these accomplishments to be failures at best and unconstitutional at worst.

Success = failure if it costs a whole lot of tax money (wars excepted). This is the most basic conservative idea there is. It's also the reason they can never hold onto to power for very long. That one idea renders them incapable of serving the demands of the people so they inevitably get tossed out after brief stints in charge. This is why Congress has been dominated by the Democrats for most of the past 80 years.

Really? -YOU- by chance aren't confusing Conservatives with Republican, are you?

Even present Democrats aren't Democrats by their own admission. They are Progressives that have Hijacked the Democrat Party.

 

[The T]

One Liberal Ideal that has worked?

The United States of America.

*NOT* in the present Tense of Liberalism as espoused by Jefferson. Modern-Day Conservatives are more aligned with Jefferson than you care to admit...

Modern day Liberalism is more Progressive/Marxist/Socialist.

 

[bucs90]

Impossible.
You are too brainwashed to accept any alternative politics.
Join the military.

If I were brainwashed, I wouldn't be open for someone to explain a good idea to me. I see you did not have any. Thanks for trying.

 

[Modbert]

*NOT* in the present Tense of Liberalism as espoused by Jefferson. Modern-Day Conservatives are more aligned with Jefferson than you care to admit...

Modern day Liberalism is more Progressive/Marxist/Socialist.

Then the OP should of asked about one PROGRESSIVE ideal.

OP asked for Liberal ideal, OP got one. Therefore, I win.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Let the war of definitions begin.


(I haven't read the thread...but I'm betting this is what it degenerated into. OP is retarded and needed to define terms and historical scope better)

 

[Article 15]

Unless you are talking to Ann Coulter, women's suffrage was a pretty good idea that has worked out.

 

[bucs90]

The Labor Movement which gave rise to the American middle class.

Ah, yes, the Labor Movement, whose unions are now bankrupting states and companies. Notice how MSNBC isn't reporting that New Jersey's new conservative governor has said the states pension payments to unions will have to stop or be reduce b/c they are bankrupting the state? Again, liberal ideal that failed: unions.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One Lib idea was FDR's goal destroying the economy so he could crazy glue everyone mouth to big gubbamint teats; that one worked

 

[Brubricker]

I think our conservatives friends would consider these accomplishments to be failures at best and unconstitutional at worst.

Success = failure if it costs a whole lot of tax money (wars excepted). This is the most basic conservative idea there is. It's also the reason they can never hold onto to power for very long. That one idea renders them incapable of serving the demands of the people so they inevitably get tossed out after brief stints in charge. This is why Congress has been dominated by the Democrats for most of the past 80 years.

Really? -YOU- by chance aren't confusing Conservatives with Republican, are you?

Even present Democrats aren't Democrats by their own admission. They are Progressives that have Hijacked the Democrat Party.

I totally geddit that you are a reactionary. Most Republicans really are conservative. Deal with it. Reactionaries like to say they're the only true conservatives but that doesn't mean they know what they're talking about.

 

[del]

I'd rather pay my union dues and make what I'm making and work under the conditions I work under than make what my non-union counterparts make for the sake of having my union dues back in my pocket.

And have the Unions make contributions to those that YOU may not agree?

Face FACT. Unions are Corporations unto themselves that they decry.

Some union contributions:

40 hour work week
Overtime pay
Minimum wage
Paid Vacation
Safety
Child Labor laws

All things conservatives fought every step of the way.

henry ford, a flaming liberal indeed, pioneered the 40 hour work week.

everything else you claim was enacted by the federal government. feel free to attribute it to unions if it makes you feel better.


good effort, though.

 

[Skull Pilot]

One Liberal Ideal that has worked?

The United States of America.

Well it used to work. Not so sure anymore.