Can Obama run on his record?

No point even mentioning the other three...It's Romney going into the fall.

And what will Willard, Reversible Mittens, Romney run on? Like you said, he's running away from the good things he did in Massachusetts; a popular health care law and gay marriage so what is there left for Mittens? His time at Bain as a vulture capitalist, destroying companies and shipping jobs overseas? :lol: Good luck with that.

On the other hand we have the President...who has made some mistakes and, according to his base, has gone too far in trying to appease Republicans. However, to say he doesn't have a record to run on is disingenuous. The Stimulus kept us from a depression, you can ask the economists, they'll tell you the same. He saved GM, an American icon. The auto industry, with Chevrolet at the lead, is helping drive our current recovery AND they are the number one automaker in the WORLD again. (why the RW can't celebrate that, I don't know). When he took office, we were losing 700,000 jobs a MONTH but now have had almost two years of straight job gains. He got bin Laden, signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, overturned DADT, allowed Federal Funding of stem cell research, signed a bill that would allow us queers to visit our life partners in the hospital and increased VA funding just to name a few...and don't get me started on Health Care reforms that were badly needed...(and popular)

If George Bush had done a quarter of what President Obama has accomplished, the RW would be creaming it's collective jeans on a daily basis. Hannity would be walking around with a permanent stiffy...and not from Rush Limbaugh's off market Viagra.

First of all...the Stimulus didn't keep us from a depression...TARP kept us from a depression. The Stimulus just wasted a trillion of our dollars on a really badly conceived plan that didn't do what it was supposed to do. Obama didn't save GM...GM would have been saved by filing bankruptcy. What Obama "saved" were the benefits for UAW workers that supported him with so much money in his Presidential campaign. Our two years of job gains have been miniscule gains that only look good compared to how things were at the height of the recession. Barack Obama's policies have in fact retarded job growth...not enhanced it. As for ObamaCare? If it was so great and so popular, Wytch...then why is Obama running away from it? He mentioned his "signature" piece of legislation one time in his last State of the Union address and that was briefly. The truth is...ObamaCare doesn't lower the average American's health care costs...it raises them! Not to mention puts the country on a direct path to fiscal insolvency by adding another massive entitlement at a time when we can't pay for what we have.


USA Today: Economists agree: Stimulus created nearly 3 million jobs

Economic Stimulus
The latest Chicago Booth poll of economists focuses on the 2009 stimulus. The first question asked whether the stimulus increased employment by the end of 2010. Eighty percent of the polled economists agreed. Four percent disagreed. Two percent were uncertain.

How the Great Recession Was Brought to an End

The U.S. government's response to the financial crisis and ensuing Great Recession included some of the most aggressive fiscal and monetary policies in history. The response was multifaceted and bipartisan, involving the Federal Reserve, Congress, and two administrations. Yet almost every one of these policy initiatives remain controversial to this day, with critics calling them misguided, ineffective or both. The debate over these policies is crucial because, with the economy still weak, more government support may be needed, as seen recently in both the extension of unemployment benefits and the Fed's consideration of further easing.

In this paper, we use the Moody's Analytics model of the U.S. economy -- adjusted to accommodate some recent financial-market policies -- to simulate the macroeconomic effects of the government's total policy response. We find that its effects on real GDP, jobs, and inflation are huge, and probably averted what could have been called Great Depression 2.0. For example, we estimate that, without the government's response, GDP in 2010 would be about 11.5% lower, payroll employment would be less by some 8½ million jobs, and the nation would now be experiencing deflation.

[...]

The U.S. economy has made enormous progress since the dark days of early 2009. Eighteen months ago, the global financial system was on the brink of collapse and the U.S. was suffering its worst economic down*turn since the 1930s. Real GDP was falling at about a 6% annual rate, and monthly job losses averaged close to 750,000. Today, the financial system is operating much more normally, real GDP is advancing at a nearly 3% pace, and job growth has resumed, albeit at an insufficient pace.

From the perspective of early 2009, this rapid snap back was a surprise. Maybe the country and the world were just lucky. But we take another view: The Great Recession gave way to recovery as quickly as it did largely because of the unprecedented responses by monetary and fiscal policymakers.

A stunning range of initiatives was un*dertaken by the Federal Reserve, the Bush and Obama administrations, and Congress (see Table 1). While the effectiveness of any individual element certainly can be debated, there is little doubt that in total, the policy response was highly effective. If policymak*ers had not reacted as aggressively or as quickly as they did, the financial system might still be unsettled, the economy might still be shrinking, and the costs to U.S. tax*payers would have been vastly greater.



I'll be waiting for your evidence that President Obama is slowing our recovery. While you're looking, you can read this...

How Congress is killing the recovery

I'm curious, Wytch...do you even read this stuff before you cite it? I'm guessing the answer to that question is no because BOTH of the articles you provided specifically pointed out that TARP and Fed fiscal policy were the most responsible for the "recovery".

To quote your USA Today article...

"Eighteen months later, the consensus among economists is that the stimulus worked in staving off a rerun of the 1930s. But the spending's impact was dwarfed by other crisis-fighting tools deployed by the Bush and Obama administrations, including costly efforts to stabilize crippled banks and the Fed's unconventional monetary policy.

"I think it was important for confidence. ... But fiscal stimulus was the least important of the three planks of the government's strategy," said Harvard University's Kenneth Rogoff, former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund."

Least important? That's from a news source that's been a long time Obama cheerleader. Even the main stream media has a hard time painting the Obama Stimulus as successful, Wytch because it's obvious that it didn't do what it was designed to do...create jobs. How do I know that? Because you don't have to create a new statistic "jobs saved" if the plan you've invested a trillion dollars in CREATED jobs.
 
Are we talking about the police record?

Do they have police records in Kenya?

Oh, I see; at first I thought that you might have been seriously asking, but apparently it doesn't matter what facts people present to you about Obama's obvious successes. You're a worthless troll hack and a possible birfer. Welcome to the board. You'll get along well with the resident nutjobs.

I was seriously asking. I am seriously asking. It's not my fault you can't take a joke.
 
Yea. He's against Obama's failed policies. What's your point?

His policies are only generally failures to people who have no ability to give him credit for anything, he has successes and set backs like any president but don't forget that his campaigning successes have been spectacular.
Don't forget this either unlike 2008 when Obama had no real record to point to or go after he will have that in 2012. In 08 Obama was a blank canvas that many people mostly independents could paint as whatever they wanted he is no longer that blank canvas everyone has a much clearer picture of who he is and what he believes now than they did in 2008.

Obama is still a blank canvas. Remember everything that has happened to date since the Obama Administration moved in is Bush's fault. Everything! Even the items that were shoved down our throats via Obamacare were Republican ideas (you are supposed to forget the fact that it was Pelosi and Reid that did the shoving) and thus Bush's fault and when the SCOTUS overturns it, that too will be Bush's fault.

Obama is still a blank canvas. He'll have to win on Bush's inadequacy to get a decent candidate in this election... again that is Bush's fault.

The only thing Obama can run on is his charm and the (D) after his name.

Immie
 
His policies are only generally failures to people who have no ability to give him credit for anything, he has successes and set backs like any president but don't forget that his campaigning successes have been spectacular.
Don't forget this either unlike 2008 when Obama had no real record to point to or go after he will have that in 2012. In 08 Obama was a blank canvas that many people mostly independents could paint as whatever they wanted he is no longer that blank canvas everyone has a much clearer picture of who he is and what he believes now than they did in 2008.

Obama is still a blank canvas. Remember everything that has happened to date since the Obama Administration moved in is Bush's fault. Everything! Even the items that were shoved down our throats via Obamacare were Republican ideas (you are supposed to forget the fact that it was Pelosi and Reid that did the shoving) and thus Bush's fault and when the SCOTUS overturns it, that too will be Bush's fault.

Obama is still a blank canvas. He'll have to win on Bush's inadequacy to get a decent candidate in this election... again that is Bush's fault.

The only thing Obama can run on is his charm and the (D) after his name.

Immie

And Obama's FAITH that he's fooled the masses again as he did in '08.

I forsee alot of buyer's remorse.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q"]The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again - YouTube[/ame]
 
I'm hearing these Romney attacks. It seems to me that libs are desperate b/c Obama can't run on his record.

Libs, why should we vote for Obama? Tell me what he has done that is so great?

he has continued and escalated the police state with the signing of NDAA on Dec31st 2011.. :badgrin:

And that too was Bush's fault! If Bush had stopped those planes from hitting the Twin Towers, Obama would not have been forced to eliminate due process. :badgrin:

Immie
 
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I don't know if I need to point out the painfully obvious, but what the hell, just in case I really do:

Obama's overall premise for the campaign will be this - We're doing the best we can with the steaming bucket of shit that we took over in 2008. Yes, it's taking a while, no doubt about it, but the catastrophe was deep, broad and clearly historical in nature (both domestically and internationally). While I can sure as hell understand your frustrations, we're moving in the right direction, and if we can get vertical again, perhaps I'll be able to actually do something proactively instead of playing fireman. And by the way, do you really want to go back to the policies that brought us here in the first place?

Yes, I know, partisan conservatives will deny all of the above, inferring that the economic disaster was just a little blip on the radar, that the horrific wars in the Middle East were/are just little spats. I get it, I get it.

But Obama knows the partisan conservatives wouldn't vote for him in a million years, and he really doesn't care what they think. He'll be talking to everyone else. Oh yeah, he'll also be pointing at Romney and giggling.

This is where we are, this is where we're going. Deny and divert all you want. The election is a tossup.


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See, even you say Obama's only campaign is going to be... it's Bush's fault.

Immie
 
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I don't know if I need to point out the painfully obvious, but what the hell, just in case I really do:

Obama's overall premise for the campaign will be this - We're doing the best we can with the steaming bucket of shit that we took over in 2008. Yes, it's taking a while, no doubt about it, but the catastrophe was deep, broad and clearly historical in nature (both domestically and internationally). While I can sure as hell understand your frustrations, we're moving in the right direction, and if we can get vertical again, perhaps I'll be able to actually do something proactively instead of playing fireman. And by the way, do you really want to go back to the policies that brought us here in the first place?

Yes, I know, partisan conservatives will deny all of the above, inferring that the economic disaster was just a little blip on the radar, that the horrific wars in the Middle East were/are just little spats. I get it, I get it.

But Obama knows the partisan conservatives wouldn't vote for him in a million years, and he really doesn't care what they think. He'll be talking to everyone else. Oh yeah, he'll also be pointing at Romney and giggling.

This is where we are, this is where we're going. Deny and divert all you want. The election is a tossup.


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See, even you say Obama's only campaign is going to be... it's Bush's fault.

Immie


Yup, given the circumstances, I don't see how it would be much else. He's spent a large percentage of his time in office putting out fires. Not all of it (Obamacare, for example), but a great deal. So the question will be how many moderates/independents will agree with this. Couldn't tell you.

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He can run on "The Obama Doctrine" -which states that the federal government can solve every problem on earth.... except high oil prices.
 
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I don't know if I need to point out the painfully obvious, but what the hell, just in case I really do:

Obama's overall premise for the campaign will be this - We're doing the best we can with the steaming bucket of shit that we took over in 2008. Yes, it's taking a while, no doubt about it, but the catastrophe was deep, broad and clearly historical in nature (both domestically and internationally). While I can sure as hell understand your frustrations, we're moving in the right direction, and if we can get vertical again, perhaps I'll be able to actually do something proactively instead of playing fireman. And by the way, do you really want to go back to the policies that brought us here in the first place?

Yes, I know, partisan conservatives will deny all of the above, inferring that the economic disaster was just a little blip on the radar, that the horrific wars in the Middle East were/are just little spats. I get it, I get it.

But Obama knows the partisan conservatives wouldn't vote for him in a million years, and he really doesn't care what they think. He'll be talking to everyone else. Oh yeah, he'll also be pointing at Romney and giggling.

This is where we are, this is where we're going. Deny and divert all you want. The election is a tossup.


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See, even you say Obama's only campaign is going to be... it's Bush's fault.

Immie


Yup, given the circumstances, I don't see how it would be much else. He's spent a large percentage of his time in office putting out fires. Not all of it (Obamacare, for example), but a great deal. So the question will be how many moderates/independents will agree with this. Couldn't tell you.

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Well, this moderate independent isn't voting for either Obama or Romney. This moderate independent is praying for a dark horse. :D

A damned knight in shining armor would be really appreciated right about now... especially if she were blond-haired, blue-eyed and had a body like a young Heather Locklear!

Immie
 
What I am hearing here is the same thing I am hearing in the outside world. The folks who wouldn't vote for Obama if Stalin was running, are all still saying the same things they were saying four years ago. The birthers and Tea Partiers have alienated moderates and independents and left themselves only the hard right base with any sort of cohesion. Couple this with a fairly weak group of candidates and it's not so much that Obama looks great.... he doesn't.... but the republicans, from the candidates to the voice the base is putting forward, just look bad.

Meanwhile, Obama has been acceptable and stable for most people. Some expect more, some see his failures but overall, he looks like a safe bet for just about everyone but the hard right.

He can run on his record because a B - looks pretty good following a remedial flunky who got held back for a second term. I don't think we're ready to replace a mediocre but safe and stable leader with another republican product yet. Not until the republicans can produce a candidate that really shines. And these don't. In fact, Mitt and Rick both just kind of fall flat on people.

Short of a real disaster, Obama wins a second term, I think. There is still time for him to make a costly error though.
 
I'm hearing these Romney attacks. It seems to me that libs are desperate b/c Obama can't run on his record.

Libs, why should we vote for Obama? Tell me what he has done that is so great?

He will -- without question -- and with just a couple of exceptions -- run the fuck away from his record.
And hope that his change will garner more distant fainting as in '08...
 
See, even you say Obama's only campaign is going to be... it's Bush's fault.

Immie


Yup, given the circumstances, I don't see how it would be much else. He's spent a large percentage of his time in office putting out fires. Not all of it (Obamacare, for example), but a great deal. So the question will be how many moderates/independents will agree with this. Couldn't tell you.

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Well, this moderate independent isn't voting for either Obama or Romney. This moderate independent is praying for a dark horse. :D

A damned knight in shining armor would be really appreciated right about now... especially if she were blond-haired, blue-eyed and had a body like a young Heather Locklear!

Immie



Yeah, I'm with ya. I'm shopping for an alternate party. This is a freakin' disaster. Let me know if you find one, will you?

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Yup, given the circumstances, I don't see how it would be much else. He's spent a large percentage of his time in office putting out fires. Not all of it (Obamacare, for example), but a great deal. So the question will be how many moderates/independents will agree with this. Couldn't tell you.

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Well, this moderate independent isn't voting for either Obama or Romney. This moderate independent is praying for a dark horse. :D

A damned knight in shining armor would be really appreciated right about now... especially if she were blond-haired, blue-eyed and had a body like a young Heather Locklear!

Immie



Yeah, I'm with ya. I'm shopping for an alternate party. This is a freakin' disaster. Let me know if you find one, will you?

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Sure, but don't expect any miracles.

I have to admit that I believe that if there was a third party candidate who was a real contender he or she would more than likely be as corrupt (not to mention arrogant) as the two contenders we are speaking about.

Immie
 
42+ Democratic Accomplishments You May Not Know About | rescue truth.

25 Tax Cuts Passed By Obama & Democrats[3]

Individuals

“Making Work Pay” tax credit
Earned Income Tax Credit increased
Increased Eligibility for Refundable Portion of Child Credit
“American Opportunity” Education Tax Credit
First-time Home Buyer Credit
Temp. Suspension of Taxation of Unemployment Benefits
Tax Credits for Energy-Efficient Improvements to Existing Homes
Sales Tax Deduction for Vehicle Purchases
Premium Credits for COBRA Continuation Coverage for Unemployed Workers
Economic Recovery Credits to Recipients of Social Security, SSI, RR Retirement, and Veterans Disability Compensation Benefits
Computers as Qualified Education Expenses in 529 Education Plans
Plug-in Electric Drive Vehicle Credit
Tax Parity for Transit Benefits
Health Coverage Tax Credit Expansion

Small Business

Extension of Enhanced Small Business Expensing
5-Year Carryback of Net Operating Losses for Small Businesses
Extension of Bonus Depreciation
Exclusion of 75% of Small Business Capital Gains from Taxes
Temporary Small Business Estimated Tax Payment Relief
Temporary Reduction of S Corporation Built-In Gains Holding Period from 10 Years to 7 Years

Other Business

Advanced Energy Investment Credit
Tax Credits for Alternative Refueling Property
Work Opportunity Tax Credits for Hiring Unemployed Veterans and Disconnected Youth
Delayed Recognition of Certain Cancellation of Debt Income
Election to Accelerate Recognition of Historic AMT/R&D Credits
Fun Fact: 1/3 of the $862 billion stimulus was for tax cuts, something Republicans claim to support … although they still stand against stimulus. I suppose it depends on who gets the tax cuts.

Women’s Rights

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Protection against pay discrimination
Restores interpretation of Title VII of Civil Rights Act that protected women and other workers
Financial Rights
Credit CARD Act
Prevents retroactive rate increases
Requires companies to provide 45 days notice before changing rates and other contract provisions
Additional restrictions placed on fees
Prevents companies from taking advantage of students
Ends unfair double-cycle billing practices
Financial reform bill
Establishes Consumer Financial Protection Bureau which seeks solely to ensure financial institutions are being fair to consumers, and improvement in the simplicity in contracts
Prevents taxpayer bail out of financial institutions
Allows the GAO to audit the Federal Reserve
Various mortgage and derivatives reform, etc.

Education

Student loans[1]
Ends “socialistic” federal subsidies to banks and other financial institutions (Interestingly, Republicans are okay with the kind of socialism that redirects taxpayer money to banks and other financial institutions.)
Eliminates unnecessary “middle-man” in student loan process, which placed financial burden on taxpayers while banks took in profits
Annual student loan payment capped at 10% of income
Saves an estimated $61 billion over 10 years

Health Care

Children’s health insurance bill[2]
CBO said bill will allow states to cover more than four million uninsured children by 2013, in addition to seven million already covered
Requires states to provide dental and mental illness coverage to children
Tobacco regulation
Provides graphic warnings on tobacco use risks
Restricts advertising to prevent marketing to minors
Health care reform
Insurers cannot cancel coverage when a person gets sick
Requires health insurance corporations to cover preexisting conditions
Eliminates lifetime limits
Allows insurance purchase across state lines
Allows young adults to stay on parents’ health insurance policy until 26

Crime & Civil Rights

Hate crime legislation[4]
Provides protection for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people
Tribal Law and Order Act
Provide additional means to reduce high rates of violent crime, including rape & sexual assualt within Native American reservations
View the rescuetruth.com post on the Tribal Law and Order Act

Other

The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
Expands service and voluteer opportunites
Benefits education, health care, energy, etc.

Stimulus

Cash for Clunkers successfully contributed to 680,000+ vehicle sales in summer 2009
Largest clean energy investment ever made
Reduced deficit by $122 billion[5]
Reduced federal spending by 2%[5]
What didn’t get passed because of Republican obstructionism?
Health Care for 9/11 Emergency Responders
DISCLOSE Act (transparency in elections, specifically campaign financing)
Don’t Ask Don’t Tell repeal
Removal of $75 million cap on oil spill payouts
Elimination of tax incentives for companies shipping American jobs overseas, and creation of tax incentives to businesses bringing jobs home

This is the closest thing I've seen to so-called accomplishments; and it's pretty weak. But I'll address some of the things that stick out to me.

  • Okay first off. Tax credits are not tax cuts. That's how I can tell your little article is written by a hack right off.
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  • "Temp. Suspension of Taxation of Unemployment Benefits" - LMAO. Why is it only temporary? Employees and Employers have already paid the tax into the f'ing system in the event of unemployment. Why the fuck does the government think they get to tax it again? And then stooges go out and pimp that as a tax cut? We have the same junk in California. The CA Redemption tax on recyclables. I once counted the tax on a bottle of soda - it was something ridiculous in the neighborhood of 30 percent. Why? They actually charge some ridiculously high tax on it and then they actually tax the f'ing tax. And then they try and make you feel better and say hey bring this back and you can have a nickel.
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  • I don't see any actual consumer tax cuts on your list. Here's a list of many of Obama's tax increases. You'll find plenty of tax increases for consumers. Americans for Tax Reform : Comprehensive List of Obama Tax Hikes
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  • "Extension of bonus depreciation" - I love how that's pimped as "Small Business." In actuality it applies to all business. And those so called corporate loopholes that Dems love to bitch about. Yea this is especially for them. And btw, it's against weak that it's only an extension. This should be a standard. Govt once again is claiming something as an incentive for business but they want to get their greedy hands on money down the road. Once again, you've touted a half ass standard. And by the way this is also not a tax cut b/c it's not even a tax. But you keep wanting to sell us that Obama gave us 25 tax cuts. Pa-pa-pa-pathetic!
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  • "Health Coverage Tax Credit Expansion" - Hmm. I don't even want to research this. I already know the practically infinite ways in which Obama has f'd up health care costs and sent them skyrocketing b/c he pandered to everything and everyone except for free market economists.

    I mean seriously. If you did something that caused vehicle registration to triple and then you came back and said but we cut the gas tax by an eight of a cent then why the f would I care? That's basically what you're pimping.
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  • "Fun Fact: 1/3 of the $862 billion stimulus was for tax cuts, something Republicans claim to support … although they still stand against stimulus. I suppose it depends on who gets the tax cuts." - Not So Fun fact; most of the stimulus has not even been spent. It's just in rainy day funds for Obama to embezzle to his cronies.
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  • Requires companies to provide 45 days notice before changing rates and other contract provisions -- Again this is not a freaking tax so it can't be a tax cut.
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  • "Allows insurance purchase across state lines" - That's a freaking lie. I cannot purchase health insurance in other states right now. This was McCain's plan and Obama was against it.
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  • "Hate crime legislation" - There should be no such thing as hate crime legislation. It's a gross abuse of power. Person A gets their head bashed in by angry person A. Person B gets their head bashed in by angry person B who screams a racial epitaph. Person A gets 5 years in prison. Person B gets 10 years in prison. How is that f'ing fair? We know that the govt. has enacted hate crime legislation as a way of unfairly demonizing people. Hate crime legislation is frankly unconstitutional.
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  • "Largest clean energy investment ever made" - SOLYNDRA - Only a Dem would try to tout a failure as a success.
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  • "Reduced deficit by $122 billion" - No. LIAR! The deficit and the national debt has skyrocketed.
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  • Don’t Ask Don’t Tell repeal - That was Clinton's baby. And I really saw nothing wrong with the law once I wrapped my head around it. We don't want sexual politics to be entering war situations.
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  • "Removal of $75 million cap on oil spill payouts" Sure was nice of him after he extorted $20 billion from BP. This just means that he can pay cronies what he wants and they'll embezzled the money to his people.
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  • "Elimination of tax incentives for companies shipping American jobs overseas, and creation of tax incentives to businesses bringing jobs home" - I'm skeptical just reading that. But here's one thing I do know right off. General Electric (Obama's NBC media backer) paid ZERO PERCENT.

Well congrats on showing us that Obama can't run on his record. Those were supposed to be his accomplishments too. :lol: It doesn't even get to the bigger complaints that conservatives and independents and clear thinking Dems have.
 
George W. Bush inherited a strong economy, a budget surplus, and a nation at peace.

Eight years later, he left Obama with a shattered economy, a trillion dollar deficit, and two useless wars.

Obama saved the country from another Great Depression, rebuilt GM, reformed healthcare, reformed Wall Street, doubled the stock market, created 8 straight quarters of GDP growth, created 22 straight months of private sector job growth, got Bin Laden, got Gaddafi, and got us out of Iraq.

And now with the automatic spending cuts and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts in 2012, Obama has solved the deficit problem as well.

Obama has done a very good job.
 
He can run on "The Obama Doctrine" -which states that the federal government can solve every problem on earth.... except high oil prices.

Obama is dillusional...witness this:


Obama: Government 'made this country great'

Opening sentence:

President Obama attacked Republicans for their desire to cut the government spending that "made this country great," while also faulting them for failing to "balance the budget."...

The blame game is ON.
 
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I don't know if I need to point out the painfully obvious, but what the hell, just in case I really do:

Obama's overall premise for the campaign will be this - We're doing the best we can with the steaming bucket of shit that we took over in 2008. Yes, it's taking a while, no doubt about it, but the catastrophe was deep, broad and clearly historical in nature (both domestically and internationally). While I can sure as hell understand your frustrations, we're moving in the right direction, and if we can get vertical again, perhaps I'll be able to actually do something proactively instead of playing fireman. And by the way, do you really want to go back to the policies that brought us here in the first place?

Yes, I know, partisan conservatives will deny all of the above, inferring that the economic disaster was just a little blip on the radar, that the horrific wars in the Middle East were/are just little spats. I get it, I get it.

But Obama knows the partisan conservatives wouldn't vote for him in a million years, and he really doesn't care what they think. He'll be talking to everyone else. Oh yeah, he'll also be pointing at Romney and giggling.

This is where we are, this is where we're going. Deny and divert all you want. The election is a tossup.


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See, even you say Obama's only campaign is going to be... it's Bush's fault.

Immie

Mr Obama ran against Mr Bush in 2008 (Mr Bush wasn't a candidate in 2008, but for some, that didn't matter), He can't do that again.
Oh wait, maybe he can. Let's see what the media says.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzMas1bVidw]Brokaw and Rose Admit They Don't Know Much About Obama. - YouTube[/ame]
 

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