California Legislature to Expand Illegal Alien Benefits!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by get_involved, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. get_involved
    Offline

    get_involved Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2,036
    Thanks Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Ratings:
    +565
  2. polpotterybarn
    Offline

    polpotterybarn taylor gang or...........

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2010
    Messages:
    43
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    further left than you
    Ratings:
    +5
    These undocumented workers are coming here out of necessity. It is immoral to label them as illegal when they are coming here and taking the worst jobs at the worst pay only to send the money back to their families in hope that they can one day come to the United States where a better life is possible for them. There once was a time in America, you know, when we actually encouraged immigration. The statue of liberty reads "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Can you imagine if your grandparents or great grandparents or whoever brought you here had to go through an inefficient and decades-long citizenship process, only to be the designated gripe catchers of American society?

    Also, with NAFTA, capital can cross the United States-Mexico border without a problem. Prospective immigrants, however, have it harder than ever. Are we, then, saying capital is more important than thousands of people whose only hope is a below-minimum wage American job? Either way, advocation for harsher border policy is not only impractical but also morally abhorrent.

    Edit:

    Only a WASP American baby could ever have a problem with educating the poor. Are you kidding me
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2010
  3. Madeline
    Offline

    Madeline BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    18,505
    Thanks Received:
    1,624
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland. Feel mah pain.
    Ratings:
    +1,624
    Morally abhorrent? WTF? When did it become "morally abhorrent" to have immigration laws, polpotterybarn? Did you read the article in the link? California is almost (if not already) bankrupt. It's bonds have been downgraded and many pundits believe the state will soon default.

    California Leads Nation to Bond Default Abyss: Kevin Hassett - Bloomberg

    California has one of the highest rates of unemployment in the nation -- by nearly three points.

    Google - public data

    Your POV has no logic to it. If we do not secure our borders, deport illegals and aid Mexico to become habitable to its own people, we risk our own economic survival.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  4. polpotterybarn
    Offline

    polpotterybarn taylor gang or...........

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2010
    Messages:
    43
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    further left than you
    Ratings:
    +5
    At its current state, American border policy is abhorrent. The climate with regard to undocumented workers and Mexicans in general is abhorrent. Attacking the symptom instead of the disease is abhorrent.

    These undocumented workers are in a unique position. They need to do something to survive. Official policy and millions of angry white people say they can't come here to America. Yet, when they come, they are welcomed with open arms by American companies. You can't blame the undocumented workers for doing this any more than you can Jean Valjean for stealing bread to support his family. Except, if the analogy were to be 100% accurate, the bread would have to have been willingly handed over to him and he was still prosecuted for his crimes.

    At the end of the day, California's debt is not the fault of undocumented workers, many of whom work under fake social security numbers and therefore actually pay taxes on their income and pay sales tax on the things they buy. Maybe the tax rate on the top 2% should be more than it is now? No, that would be mean to the poor millionaires living in America.

    A solution to the unemployment would be to stop the underbidding on wages - give the immigrants citizenship and then they have to be paid minimum wage.
     
  5. gautama
    Offline

    gautama BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Messages:
    4,355
    Thanks Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +336
    We welcome LEGAL immigration.

    Legal Immigrants sometimes have to wait a DECADE or longer to get in America LEGALLY !!!

    It isn't fair to them that the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS get ahead of them, and their rightful benefits as future Americans.

    Illegal Immigrants who break the law crossing our borders are as guilty as those that steal or commit some other ILLEGAL activities and should be PUNISHED.....not REWARDED AS IN CALIFORNIA and some other states.

    Certainly, they are not to be encouraged by their illegal status by a POS like Obambo who is in the process of ILLEGAL Legislation under the guise that the phoney legislation in his agenda would NOT supposedly benefit the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

    Like practically everything else that the EXPOSED MONUMENTAL FRAUD does......Obambo LIES about it.

    But then an Obamarrhoid LIEbturd arsehole like you knows that. And, STILL posts the TRANSPARENT SHIT that you do.
     
  6. Lumpy 1
    Offline

    Lumpy 1 Diamond Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2009
    Messages:
    33,131
    Thanks Received:
    8,538
    Trophy Points:
    1,370
    Ratings:
    +14,846
    Me thinks.. polpotterybarn is a victim of a life of free rides...
     
  7. Madeline
    Offline

    Madeline BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    18,505
    Thanks Received:
    1,624
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland. Feel mah pain.
    Ratings:
    +1,624
    Schwartzenegger is a Republican, gautama. Lots of blame for the illegal immigration problem for both sides of the aisle.
     
  8. Madeline
    Offline

    Madeline BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    18,505
    Thanks Received:
    1,624
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland. Feel mah pain.
    Ratings:
    +1,624
    I like to think I'm a good person, but I cannot fathom where this idea comes from that we should reward criminals with citizenship.
     
  9. Tank
    Offline

    Tank Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2009
    Messages:
    13,916
    Thanks Received:
    1,756
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,921
    As small as the hispanic population is in America, they sure can fuck up a area.
     
  10. polpotterybarn
    Offline

    polpotterybarn taylor gang or...........

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2010
    Messages:
    43
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    further left than you
    Ratings:
    +5
    Martin Luther King, Jr., in his letter from Birmingham Jail, wrote, "one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that 'an unjust law is no law at all.'" The "illegals" are taking their survival into their own hands. Not everyone has the luxury of having decades to wait. But then again, MLK is black and most undocumented workers are Latino so you probably hate this post.
     

Share This Page