Bush: 575 Obama: 575

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    As of Monday 16 August 2010 each "decider" has wracked up the same number of dead Americans according to Robert Naiman's article which makes use of the icasualties.org website.

    "Therefore, total US deaths in Afghanistan have doubled in Afghanistan under President Obama, and when the next US soldier is reported dead, the majority of US deaths in Afghanistan will have occurred under President Obama."

    One US death that occurred in Afghanistan was Pat Tillman, star safety for the Arizona Cardinals, who literally walked away from $millions to become a Ranger.

    This coming Friday, 8/20/10 "The Tillman Story" a "R"rated documentary (for language) of Pat's life and death will hit the theaters.

    If it's true a majority of Americans are "deeply skeptical of the Administration's Afghanistan policy", maybe voices from the dead like Pat's will wake the echos from Vietnam and kill America's War Racket once and for all.

    By US Deaths,
     
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    I think these numbers certainly speak for the situation in Afghanistan since Obama has taken office and how much more aggressive he has been on that war front.
     
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    If General Petraeus opposes removing any troops from Afghanistan next summer, how do you see that affecting support for Obama's war?
     
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    What are the death counts in Iraq?
     
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    What is even more important is the friendship of Barack Obama and Robert Gates. Obama has listened to Gates to a great degree since taking office. In fact, Gates is the only Defense Secretary ever to stay in the cabinet despite a party change.

    If Gates and Petraeus opposes removing any troops, Barack Obama would make the argument to the American people that he's listening to the people who know what they're talking about.

    It's difficult to have support for any war that's not a total war in the long run because there are few measurements that are good indicators of success.

    The roughest estimates right now that at least 30,000 Taliban are dead. Since the Taliban bury their dead quickly, much like the Vietcong hid their dead, it's tough to get a official count. Other estimates currently show the Taliban and allies strength in Afghanistan to be around 93,000.

    What will happen by next year all is dependent on the condition of Afghanistan, deaths on both sides, and if there is a layout of what to be done there.
     
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    Bring them all the hell home!
     
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    My unnamed sources quote between 86,750 and 86,831 Taliban dead.
     
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    No what are the death counts per President...since that's what the OP was presenting.
     
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    Ah.

    183 under Obama from my counts, which makes it:

    Bush: 4,231
    Obama: 183
     

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