Budget Cutting, The Chinese, and the U.S. Carrier Fleet

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    First the Chinese debut their handy dandy carrier killer missile (link).
    Now, one of their submarines pops up in the middle of a carrier task force completely undetected. As the article points out, the US Navy set aside their anti-submarine warfare capabilities at the end of the cold war. The premier class of ASW platforms, the Spruance Class destroyers, were scrapped and used for target practice during the Clinton and early Bush II administrations.

    Way back when I was in A school, the bubbleheads used to say that there were two kinds of ships, submarines and targets. Guess they were right.

    With the financial crisis that is currently being faced, reconsidering the super carrier direction of the Navy is something that should be done.
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    Taking on China in an arms race is like a friend's description of the second law of thermodynamics: You can't win, you can't break even, and you have to play.
     
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    Hmm, as long as a submarine can't come ashore, who cares?
     
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    Where it matters is negating the use of carrier power as a matter of force projection.
     
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    Whats wrong with taking on China in an arms race? They still have 600 million people living as peasants, poor infrastructure, inadequate medical care..

    They have a long way to go. China has the largest army in the world with the vast majority of them needed to keep their own people in line..
     
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    Oh don't worrry about it.

    The Chinese (former communists) who run that nation are our bestest best friends.

    I think we ought to chip off still MORE of our industry to them.

    They're take care of our security because they just love us to death.
     
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    I agree. The super carrier program needs to be scrapped. We simply cannot afford it and we have more effiecient methods of protecting our country.
     
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    China gearin' up to invade Taiwan?...
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    China adds ‘carrier killer’ to missiles facing Taiwan
    Sun, Apr 21, 2013 - WARNING: Pentagon sources said that China’s positioning of the ‘carrier killer’ missiles was a warning to the US to stay well clear of the area in case of a cross-strait conflict
     
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    In an all out war, given the advanced in all types of missiles, the life span of a surface ship is about 1 hour or less. Aircraft carriers, when dealing with second and third world nations, are useful. When dealing with Russia or China, those ships, theirs and ours, are just targets that will gone after the first hour of the war.
     
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    If they can find them.
     

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