British NHS…Dentists? Don’t take on any new patients, see them every 2 years..

[2aguy]

The British brag about their National Health Service……when you look at it even a bit closely…you wonder why.

They can’t afford it, they need the U.S. to pay for their national defense to even be able to pay for the low quality care they get from it….and it is running out of money. They can’t keep Doctors or nurses, and when you reach mid 50s, they start to deny medical care…..

Now…..Dentists are told to no longer accept new patients, and to only see to
those patients once every two years…..

So….British citizens get to pay massive taxes to support medical care that gets worse each year….

and I wrote here about the current crisis in British dentistry: nine out of ten National Health Service dentists’ offices won’t take any new patients. And British dentistry, like European dentistry in general, was nothing to write home about in the first place.

The Telegraph has the latest on Britain’s dental crisis:

Patients should go to the dentist every two years instead of at six-month intervals, under new plans suggested by NHS England.

Can’t get in to see a dentist? Socialist solution: Give it up! Don’t try!

MPs were warned the NHS was “disincentivising” dentists from taking on new patients under the current contract and patients were increasingly turning to “DIY dentistry” as they struggled to access care.

NHS dentists are essentially government employees, operating under a government-imposed contract that, as we wrote previously, makes it pointless to take on any new patients. To every government-caused problem there is a government-proposed solution that rarely involves changing the policies that caused the problem in the first place.

And “do it yourself dentistry” is a frightening concept. Are we talking about 6 or 10 shots of whiskey and a pair of pliers, as in the 19th century West? There is no link to elucidate the point.

Annals of Government Dentistry

Socialized medicine has long been a chief goal of the Democratic Party, but it is hard to understand why anyone would voluntarily entrust his family’s health care to the tender mercies of any…

www.powerlineblog.com

 

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[Hang on Sloopy]

The British brag about their National Health Service……when you look at it even a bit closely…you wonder why.

They can’t afford it, they need the U.S. to pay for their national defense to even be able to pay for the low quality care they get from it….and it is running out of money. They can’t keep Doctors or nurses, and when you reach mid 50s, they start to deny medical care…..

Now…..Dentists are told to no longer accept new patients, and to only see to
those patients once every two years…..

So….British citizens get to pay massive taxes to support medical care that gets worse each year….

and I wrote here about the current crisis in British dentistry: nine out of ten National Health Service dentists’ offices won’t take any new patients. And British dentistry, like European dentistry in general, was nothing to write home about in the first place.

The Telegraph has the latest on Britain’s dental crisis:


Can’t get in to see a dentist? Socialist solution: Give it up! Don’t try!


NHS dentists are essentially government employees, operating under a government-imposed contract that, as we wrote previously, makes it pointless to take on any new patients. To every government-caused problem there is a government-proposed solution that rarely involves changing the policies that caused the problem in the first place.

And “do it yourself dentistry” is a frightening concept. Are we talking about 6 or 10 shots of whiskey and a pair of pliers, as in the 19th century West? There is no link to elucidate the point.

Annals of Government Dentistry

Socialized medicine has long been a chief goal of the Democratic Party, but it is hard to understand why anyone would voluntarily entrust his family’s health care to the tender mercies of any…

www.powerlineblog.com

They love their teeth crooked and yellow, so Don't see a problem here

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

The British brag about their National Health Service……when you look at it even a bit closely…you wonder why.

They can’t afford it, they need the U.S. to pay for their national defense to even be able to pay for the low quality care they get from it….and it is running out of money. They can’t keep Doctors or nurses, and when you reach mid 50s, they start to deny medical care…..

Now…..Dentists are told to no longer accept new patients, and to only see to
those patients once every two years…..

So….British citizens get to pay massive taxes to support medical care that gets worse each year….

and I wrote here about the current crisis in British dentistry: nine out of ten National Health Service dentists’ offices won’t take any new patients. And British dentistry, like European dentistry in general, was nothing to write home about in the first place.

The Telegraph has the latest on Britain’s dental crisis:


Can’t get in to see a dentist? Socialist solution: Give it up! Don’t try!


NHS dentists are essentially government employees, operating under a government-imposed contract that, as we wrote previously, makes it pointless to take on any new patients. To every government-caused problem there is a government-proposed solution that rarely involves changing the policies that caused the problem in the first place.

And “do it yourself dentistry” is a frightening concept. Are we talking about 6 or 10 shots of whiskey and a pair of pliers, as in the 19th century West? There is no link to elucidate the point.

Annals of Government Dentistry

Socialized medicine has long been a chief goal of the Democratic Party, but it is hard to understand why anyone would voluntarily entrust his family’s health care to the tender mercies of any…

www.powerlineblog.com

Didn't they used to go to the barber shop before?

 

[johngaltshrugged]

The British brag about their National Health Service……when you look at it even a bit closely…you wonder why.

They can’t afford it, they need the U.S. to pay for their national defense to even be able to pay for the low quality care they get from it….and it is running out of money. They can’t keep Doctors or nurses, and when you reach mid 50s, they start to deny medical care…..

Now…..Dentists are told to no longer accept new patients, and to only see to
those patients once every two years…..

So….British citizens get to pay massive taxes to support medical care that gets worse each year….

and I wrote here about the current crisis in British dentistry: nine out of ten National Health Service dentists’ offices won’t take any new patients. And British dentistry, like European dentistry in general, was nothing to write home about in the first place.

The Telegraph has the latest on Britain’s dental crisis:


Can’t get in to see a dentist? Socialist solution: Give it up! Don’t try!


NHS dentists are essentially government employees, operating under a government-imposed contract that, as we wrote previously, makes it pointless to take on any new patients. To every government-caused problem there is a government-proposed solution that rarely involves changing the policies that caused the problem in the first place.

And “do it yourself dentistry” is a frightening concept. Are we talking about 6 or 10 shots of whiskey and a pair of pliers, as in the 19th century West? There is no link to elucidate the point.

Annals of Government Dentistry

Socialized medicine has long been a chief goal of the Democratic Party, but it is hard to understand why anyone would voluntarily entrust his family’s health care to the tender mercies of any…

www.powerlineblog.com

I didn't realize they had any dentists in Britain.
Why do the Royals all look like they have a mouth full of baked beans?

Almost every time the govt tries to solve something, they make it worse & then come up with more "solutions" that don't solve anything but make something else worse

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The British brag about their National Health Service……when you look at it even a bit closely…you wonder why.

They can’t afford it, they need the U.S. to pay for their national defense to even be able to pay for the low quality care they get from it….and it is running out of money. They can’t keep Doctors or nurses, and when you reach mid 50s, they start to deny medical care…..

Now…..Dentists are told to no longer accept new patients, and to only see to
those patients once every two years…..

So….British citizens get to pay massive taxes to support medical care that gets worse each year….

and I wrote here about the current crisis in British dentistry: nine out of ten National Health Service dentists’ offices won’t take any new patients. And British dentistry, like European dentistry in general, was nothing to write home about in the first place.

The Telegraph has the latest on Britain’s dental crisis:


Can’t get in to see a dentist? Socialist solution: Give it up! Don’t try!


NHS dentists are essentially government employees, operating under a government-imposed contract that, as we wrote previously, makes it pointless to take on any new patients. To every government-caused problem there is a government-proposed solution that rarely involves changing the policies that caused the problem in the first place.

And “do it yourself dentistry” is a frightening concept. Are we talking about 6 or 10 shots of whiskey and a pair of pliers, as in the 19th century West? There is no link to elucidate the point.

Annals of Government Dentistry

Socialized medicine has long been a chief goal of the Democratic Party, but it is hard to understand why anyone would voluntarily entrust his family’s health care to the tender mercies of any…

www.powerlineblog.com

The vast majority of dentists in the UK are private and not NHS. You would kno that if you had any knowledge.

 

[2aguy]

The vast majority of dentists in the UK are private and not NHS. You would kno that if you had any knowledge.

So…..you pay for the worst healthcare with your taxes and then you go to a private dentist and pay for that too?

Yeah, that makes sense

 

[alexa]

The British brag about their National Health Service……when you look at it even a bit closely…you wonder why.

They can’t afford it, they need the U.S. to pay for their national defense to even be able to pay for the low quality care they get from it….and it is running out of money. They can’t keep Doctors or nurses, and when you reach mid 50s, they start to deny medical care…..

Now…..Dentists are told to no longer accept new patients, and to only see to
those patients once every two years…..

So….British citizens get to pay massive taxes to support medical care that gets worse each year….

and I wrote here about the current crisis in British dentistry: nine out of ten National Health Service dentists’ offices won’t take any new patients. And British dentistry, like European dentistry in general, was nothing to write home about in the first place.

The Telegraph has the latest on Britain’s dental crisis:


Can’t get in to see a dentist? Socialist solution: Give it up! Don’t try!


NHS dentists are essentially government employees, operating under a government-imposed contract that, as we wrote previously, makes it pointless to take on any new patients. To every government-caused problem there is a government-proposed solution that rarely involves changing the policies that caused the problem in the first place.

And “do it yourself dentistry” is a frightening concept. Are we talking about 6 or 10 shots of whiskey and a pair of pliers, as in the 19th century West? There is no link to elucidate the point.

Annals of Government Dentistry

Socialized medicine has long been a chief goal of the Democratic Party, but it is hard to understand why anyone would voluntarily entrust his family’s health care to the tender mercies of any…

www.powerlineblog.com

Although Dentists sometimes take NHS patients, most British Dentists are private now. What a load of twaddle about the NHS not helping people after they are 50. Simply not true.

 

[alexa]

So…..you pay for the worst healthcare with your taxes and then you go to a private dentist and pay for that too?

Yeah, that makes sense

OMG. You are unaware that the US has the most expensive health care and the worst outcomes of all the developed nations.

 

[2aguy]

OMG. You are unaware that the US has the most expensive health care and the worst outcomes of all the developed nations.

No.....the outcomes come from biased reports.......while the only reason Europe can afford their healthcare welfare is they depend entirely on the U.S. for their national defense, technological advances and medical advances....

When all of those are being paid for by someone else, you can afford to have really bad healthcare systems....

 

[2aguy]

OMG. You are unaware that the US has the most expensive health care and the worst outcomes of all the developed nations.

You were saying...

Agony every day for half of over-50s as it emerges thousands are still waiting for surgery amid crisis in the NHS​

• Half of patients aged over 50 and in need of surgery left in agony every day
• Many have been forced to spent more than £1,700 a year on pills and physio
• Comes as Sajid Javid warned NHS waiting lists of 5.6million could hit 13million
• ----

Record waiting lists have plunged Britain into a pain epidemic with half of patients aged over 50 needing surgery left in agony every day.

Many enduring long NHS waits have been forced to spend more than £1,700 a year on pills and private physiotherapy, figures show today.

Some have sunk into debt covering the cost or have resorted to crowdfunding to plead for donations online.


Health groups warn many are ‘suffering in silence’ and feel like they have been ‘forgotten’ because the NHS has not updated them on when they can expect to be treated.
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The findings come after Health Secretary Sajid Javid warned that record NHS waiting lists of 5.6million could hit 13million.

Deborah Alsina, chief executive of Independent Age, said: ‘Many older people are living in daily pain and experiencing declining mental and physical health.

‘Their wait for surgery is affecting their wellbeing and many feel frustrated and forgotten.’

Half of over-50s are still waiting for surgery amid crisis in the NHS

Many enduring long NHS waits have been forced to spend more than £1,700 a year on pills and private physiotherapy, figures show. Some have sunk into debt covering the costs.

www.dailymail.co.uk

And keep in mind.......these people have paid massive taxes their entire lives to support this system.....and the older they get, the less likely they are to get the treatmens they need.....

 

[alexa]

No.....the outcomes come from biased reports.......while the only reason Europe can afford their healthcare welfare is they depend entirely on the U.S. for their national defense, technological advances and medical advances....

When all of those are being paid for by someone else, you can afford to have really bad healthcare systems....

This is such a sad facade that some of you American's choose to live under. Makes you feel so victimised. I wonder who thought it up. It is not true.

 

[alexa]

They love their teeth crooked and yellow, so Don't see a problem here

That was before WW2, before the NHS and when people could not afford dentists.

 

[alexa]

So…..you pay for the worst healthcare

You pay for the most expensive health care with the worst outcomes. case closed.

 

[2aguy]

This is such a sad facade that some of you American's choose to live under. Makes you feel so victimised. I wonder who thought it up. It is not true.

You deny that your ability to fund you less than adequate medical system isn't a result of the U.S. protecting you? Providing for updated medical technology as well as other technology?

If you had to have a navy that could actually float on water and land forces capable of defending you...do you really think you could afford the NHS?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The British brag about their National Health Service……when you look at it even a bit closely…you wonder why.

They can’t afford it, they need the U.S. to pay for their national defense to even be able to pay for the low quality care they get from it….and it is running out of money. They can’t keep Doctors or nurses, and when you reach mid 50s, they start to deny medical care…..

Now…..Dentists are told to no longer accept new patients, and to only see to
those patients once every two years…..

So….British citizens get to pay massive taxes to support medical care that gets worse each year….

and I wrote here about the current crisis in British dentistry: nine out of ten National Health Service dentists’ offices won’t take any new patients. And British dentistry, like European dentistry in general, was nothing to write home about in the first place.

The Telegraph has the latest on Britain’s dental crisis:


Can’t get in to see a dentist? Socialist solution: Give it up! Don’t try!


NHS dentists are essentially government employees, operating under a government-imposed contract that, as we wrote previously, makes it pointless to take on any new patients. To every government-caused problem there is a government-proposed solution that rarely involves changing the policies that caused the problem in the first place.

And “do it yourself dentistry” is a frightening concept. Are we talking about 6 or 10 shots of whiskey and a pair of pliers, as in the 19th century West? There is no link to elucidate the point.

Annals of Government Dentistry

Socialized medicine has long been a chief goal of the Democratic Party, but it is hard to understand why anyone would voluntarily entrust his family’s health care to the tender mercies of any…

www.powerlineblog.com

When pliers are an accouterments for healthcare.....this should be a clue:

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Some English people have resorted to pulling out their own teeth because they cannot find -- or cannot afford -- a dentist, a major study has revealed.

Six percent of those surveyed in an English study said they had resorted to dental "self-treatment."

Six percent of those questioned in a survey of 5,000 patients admitted they had resorted to self-treatment using pliers and glue, the UK's Press Association reported.

England has a two-tier dental care system with some dentists offering publicly subsidized treatment through the National Health Service and others performing more expensive private work.

But more than three-quarters of those polled said they had been forced to pay for private treatment because they had been unable to find an NHS dentist. Almost a fifth said they had refused dental treatment because of the cost.

Valerie Halsworth, 64, told British television's GMTV she had removed seven of her own teeth using her husband's pliers when her toothache became unbearable and she was unable to find an NHS dentist willing to treat her."
Brits resort to pulling own teeth - CNN.com

 

[2aguy]

When pliers are an accouterments for healthcare.....this should be a clue:

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Some English people have resorted to pulling out their own teeth because they cannot find -- or cannot afford -- a dentist, a major study has revealed.

Six percent of those surveyed in an English study said they had resorted to dental "self-treatment."

Six percent of those questioned in a survey of 5,000 patients admitted they had resorted to self-treatment using pliers and glue, the UK's Press Association reported.

England has a two-tier dental care system with some dentists offering publicly subsidized treatment through the National Health Service and others performing more expensive private work.

But more than three-quarters of those polled said they had been forced to pay for private treatment because they had been unable to find an NHS dentist. Almost a fifth said they had refused dental treatment because of the cost.

Valerie Halsworth, 64, told British television's GMTV she had removed seven of her own teeth using her husband's pliers when her toothache became unbearable and she was unable to find an NHS dentist willing to treat her."
Brits resort to pulling own teeth - CNN.com

It would be one thing if they simply paid for their own dentists....but they have to pay massive taxes to support a system that won't treat them........

 

[alexa]

You deny that your ability to fund you less than adequate medical system isn't a result of the U.S. protecting you? Providing for updated medical technology as well as other technology?

If you had to have a navy that could actually float on water and land forces capable of defending you...do you really think you could afford the NHS?

I deny that the UK has a poor health system, that you get nothing when you are past 50 and that you, the US pay any of it. For yourselves however, you pay the most and get the worst outcomes. Rather than be able to accept that, you build up fictional stories about your generosity

The origin of the phrase "You get what you pay for" is sometimes attributed to the fashion mogul Aldo Gucci, who said, "The bitterness of low quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded." But when it comes to healthcare, Americans get neither quality nor affordability.

The United States healthcare system is the most expensive in the world, but when it comes to health outcomes, it performs worse than 11 other similar industrialized nations, according to a new report released today by the Commonwealth Fund.

The nonprofit examined the health systems of Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom, and it found that the U.S. was last or near-last in measures of health access, efficiency, and equity.

It went on to suggest that Obamacare may change this but you guys who support the 0.1% chucked that out didn't you so that you and your family can continue to loose out. I guess I have to say whatever turns you on but I am not going to go on and on about something which is so well known apart from your imagination.

U.S. Healthcare: Most Expensive and Worst Performing

In a new international ranking, the United Kingdom ranks first, while the U.S. performs poorly across almost all health metrics.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[2aguy]

I deny that the UK has a poor health system, that you get nothing when you are past 50 and that you, the US pay any of it. For yourselves however, you pay the most and get the worst outcomes. Rather than be able to accept that, you build up fictional stories about your generosity


It went on to suggest that Obamacare may change this but you guys who support the 0.1% chucked that out didn't you so that you and your family can continue to loose out. I guess I have to say whatever turns you on but I am not going to go on and on about something which is so well known apart from your imagination.

U.S. Healthcare: Most Expensive and Worst Performing

In a new international ranking, the United Kingdom ranks first, while the U.S. performs poorly across almost all health metrics.

www.theatlantic.com

Did I say you get nothing......? The system gets worse and worse for you the older you get...you are a liability, and so you are not going to get the care you need....they take your money when you are young, deny treatment as you get older......

That you don't understand this is sad.......

The U.S. pays for your national defense...do you deny this?

The U.S. creates the medical miracles that you use...do you deny this?

Obamacare was nothing more than a way to destroy private healthcare in the U.S......so that we too could have crappy healthcare like Britain....

 

[2aguy]

I deny that the UK has a poor health system, that you get nothing when you are past 50 and that you, the US pay any of it. For yourselves however, you pay the most and get the worst outcomes. Rather than be able to accept that, you build up fictional stories about your generosity


It went on to suggest that Obamacare may change this but you guys who support the 0.1% chucked that out didn't you so that you and your family can continue to loose out. I guess I have to say whatever turns you on but I am not going to go on and on about something which is so well known apart from your imagination.

U.S. Healthcare: Most Expensive and Worst Performing

In a new international ranking, the United Kingdom ranks first, while the U.S. performs poorly across almost all health metrics.

www.theatlantic.com

Yeah...again...biased reports to boost European healthcare...as they run out of money and Doctors and the quality gets worse and worse...

A closer look at the research, however, reveals that America’s seemingly poor performance is largely attributable to lifestyle and social factors — not the quality of the institutions that make up its healthcare system.

Take life expectancy. Americans live for 78.8 years, on average — less than the citizens of the other 10 developed nations examined in the JAMA study.

Several factors unrelated to our healthcare system explain Americans’ poor life expectancy. Our nation’s rate of gun deaths, for example, is ten times higher than that of other wealthy countries. Our death rate from car crashes is more than double that of other high-income nations. The U.S. drug overdose death rate is higher as well; Americans are twice as likely as Brits and six times as likely as the French to die of overdoses.

Americans are also heavier than citizens of other nations. More than 70 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese, which increases their risk of premature death.

None of these factors reflects the quality of America’s doctors or hospitals. Yet they all contribute to our low life expectancy.

Then there’s infant mortality, another seemingly clear-cut indicator of the quality of a country’s healthcare system. The JAMA analysis finds that America has the developed world’s highest infant mortality rate — 5.8 per 1,000 live births, compared to an average of 3.6 per 1,000 among all 11 countries. That puts the U.S. rate more than 60 percent higher than the developed country average.

But this statistic is misleading. Countries record infant deaths differently.

In the United States, it’s standard practice to count any newborn showing the slightest evidence of life as a live birth — no matter how little she weighs or how soon she dies after birth. The Netherlands and France, by contrast, don’t count babies born before 22 weeks of gestation or weighing 1.1 pounds or less as live births.

By excluding premature and underweight babies, many of whom don’t survive, these countries artificially decrease their infant mortality rates.

Yet another deceptive indicator is the share of the population with health insurance. America’s 90 percent insured rate falls short of the near 100-percent coverage rates in the other nations.

Insurance, however, is no guarantee of access to health care — as patients living under government-run, single-payer systems know all too well. In my native Canada, the median wait time for receiving treatment from a specialist after referral from a general practitioner soared to a record high of 21.2 weeks last year.

Patients in the United Kingdom’s single-payer system routinely wait for hours in hospital hallways — or even in the back of ambulances — thanks to chronic overcrowding and staff shortages. To try to avoid such delays, about 10 percent of Britons carry private insurance coverage.

Most patients in the United States, by contrast, receive top-notch care essentially on-demand. It’s no coincidence that roughly 40 percent of patients seeking treatment outside their home country go to the United States, according to a 2017 survey. That’s more than twice the share of the second-most popular country.

Does America really have the worst health system in the developed world? - Pacific Research Institute

America spends twice as much on health care as its peers in the developed world yet fares worse on a range of health indicators, including life expectancy and infant mortality. That’s the finding of a new survey of 10 developed countries published by the Journal...

www.pacificresearch.org