#BringBackOurGirls Should America Intervene?

Should America Intervene in Nigeria?

  • Yes - If anyone will rescue those girls, it won't be the Nigerian government

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • Yes - But only in cooperation with the Nigerian government

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • No - We'll only stir up more anti-Western extremism

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • No - It's tragic, but the story's blown out of proportion and it's not an American issue

    Votes: 13 59.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Total voters
    22
Wanting women to get an education vs. those who don't?

Okay, some radical muslims may want to keep half the world's population uneducated, but, most people of all faiths think that is "evil". And if you want to remove "good" and "evil" from the equation, it's "progress" vs. "tradition".

And if it "goes wrong"? I think the blame goes squarely on the folks that kidnapped these women.

Do you really think the US govt would go into with force to a country, to get women educated? Come on.
 
Identify Boko Haram as the new Taliban and send in a team of special forces to handle it. Get Israel to send in a team of their special forces / Germany / England / Australia - make it a group effort.

I am very impressed that Michele Obama has taken a stand against these Muslim terrorists. I think Barack Obama is making a terrible mistake in not joining her in that tweet / photograph. She has truly come alongside her African sisters on this one and I think it is going to mean a huge shift in how she is perceived. I'm glad she spoke up!
 
The #BringBackOurGirls campaign has extended awareness of the kidnapping of over 200 Nigerial schoolgirls far outside the country’s borders. The latest word is that the girls are being sold to members of the terrorist group who kidnapped them, Haka Boram, as brides for $12 a pop. Protests urging the Nigerian president to recover the victims have been met with inaction, and there is a growing feeling that the government does not have the power to stop this human trafficking. Said one of the parents, "Since the government has disappointed us over the rescue of our children, we'll rather seek foreign intervention; for foreign countries to wade into the matter to rescue our daughters from the kidnappers."

So - should America intervene?

we can't unilaterally intervene in another country's affairs. we are not at war with Nigeria. but Nigeria should have asked for help earlier. and, apparently, we are helping now.
 
Foreign intervention should be limited to situations in which the U.S. has a national security interest.

This sad situation doesn't qualify for that...but we should provide any satellite info we have that could help them locate the girls.

yeah, dammit, we never should have liberated those concentration camps in WWII... that hitler was such a congenial fellow

:cuckoo:
 
And why not?

We've intervened in other countries affairs for far lesser reasons.

The Iraq Fiasco comes to mind for one.
 
There is suffering across the world. People, animals, all suffer at the hands of evil doers. It's none of our business.
 
Foreign intervention should be limited to situations in which the U.S. has a national security interest.

This sad situation doesn't qualify for that...but we should provide any satellite info we have that could help them locate the girls.

yeah, dammit, we never should have liberated those concentration camps in WWII... that hitler was such a congenial fellow
Apples to Oranges.

We were at war with Germany.

Even an ambulance chaser like yourself Jillian should be able to see the difference in circumstances. .. :cool:
 
Foreign intervention should be limited to situations in which the U.S. has a national security interest.

This sad situation doesn't qualify for that...but we should provide any satellite info we have that could help them locate the girls.

yeah, dammit, we never should have liberated those concentration camps in WWII... that hitler was such a congenial fellow
Apples to Oranges.

We were at war with Germany.

Even an ambulance like yourself Jillian should be able to see the difference in circumstances. .. :cool:


quiet, misogynist loon, you couldn't care less about either WWII or these girls.

now run along, crackpot.
 
yeah, dammit, we never should have liberated those concentration camps in WWII... that hitler was such a congenial fellow
Apples to Oranges.

We were at war with Germany.

Even an ambulance chaser like yourself Jillian should be able to see the difference in circumstances. .. :cool:


quiet, misogynist loon, you couldn't care less about either WWII or these girls.

now run along, crackpot.
Jillian, you are a typical zionist juden.

You gotta somehow work the Holohoax into every subject and situation. . :cuckoo: :lol:
 
Can you imagine how busy America would be if she got involved in every kidnapping case on earth? Are there not other super powers like China or Russia or India or Great Britain that could do the job? Must all of the world's problems fall onto the American taxpayer?

No ... let's leave this issue in the able hands of the Nigerian government. It's a tragic case and I hope the girls are safely rescued but America has more than its share of tragic problems.
 
anyone know what the "#" is on some of their posters ?

actually, i have seen the "#" pop up a lot lately on signs etc.

"#" .......... ???????????
 
anyone know what the "#" is on some of their posters ?

actually, i have seen the "#" pop up a lot lately on signs etc.

"#" .......... ???????????

I don't use it but I believe it is widely used on Twitter. I've never participated in that social network so I don't know how it works.
 
More girls kidnapped in Nigeria by Islamic extremists...

Dozens more girls abducted by Nigerian extremists
October 27, 2014 — Dozens of girls and young women are being abducted by Islamic extremists in northeast Nigeria, raising doubts about an announced cease-fire and the hoped-for release of 219 schoolgirls held captive since April.
On Oct. 17, Nigeria's military said a cease-fire had been agreed to with Boko Haram and ordered troops to immediately comply. Officials said the cease-fire would lead to the speedy release of the girls kidnapped from a boarding school in the remote northeastern town of Chibok on April 15. But there have been a number of kidnappings and battles since then that call into question the cease-fire.

At least 70 young women and teenage girls and boys have been kidnapped in Borno and Adamawa states since Oct. 18, according to local government chairman Shettima Maina and residents who spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared retribution. The insurgents also launched several attacks since the cease-fire was announced. On Friday a multinational force including troops from Nigeria and Niger engaged in fierce fighting to regain control of Abadam, a town held by Boko Haram on the western shores of Lake Chad. Ten days after the announcement, Boko Haram has not indicated that it has agreed to a truce.

1cc9a4aedba24e60af87ed0a37f1d0a4.jpg

Martha Mark, the mother of kidnapped school girl Monica Mark cries as she displays her photo, in the family house, in Chibok, Nigeria. Dozens of girls and young women are being abducted by Islamic extremists in northeast Nigeria, raising doubts about an announced cease-fire and hopes for the release of 219 schoolgirls held captive since April. Thirty teenage girls and boys have been kidnapped since Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2014, from villages around Mafa town, 40 kilometers (25 miles) from the Borno state capital, Maiduguri, the local government chairman Shettima Maina told reporters.

Nigeria's minister of foreign affairs, Aminu Wali, said Monday that Boko Haram has denied recent kidnappings and suggested it might be the work of dissidents wanting to break the cease-fire. He said the release of the Chibok girls is part of ongoing cease-fire negotiations, which would not be affected by the latest abductions. "There is still negotiation going on and we expect a lot of progress to be made ... And we will make an effort also to bring back those that have been kidnapped," Wali told a news conference in Abuja, Nigeria's capital.

He spoke alongside the foreign ministers of Germany and France, who announced a joint initiative to help victims of Boko Haram. "Thousands of people have become traumatized by the violence," said Laurent Fabius of France, announcing joint financing of "a program for the support of these people and to help them overcome the trauma and the psychological distress that they have suffered."

MORE
 
Mooslamic terrorists renege on agreement to free schoolgirls...

Boko Haram says it will not release girls
1 Nov 2014 ~ Islamist group's leader dismisses government's ceasefire claims and says kidnapped girls have been married off
Boko Haram denied that they had agreed to a ceasefire in a new video obtained on Friday by the news agency AFP, describing the Nigerian government claims as a lie and apparently ruling out future talks. The group's leader, Abubakar Shekau, also claimed the 219 schoolgirls kidnapped from the remote northeast town of Chibok, in Borno state, in April had converted to Islam and been married off. In addition, Shekau said the Islamists were holding a German national, who was kidnapped in Adamawa state, also in northeast Nigeria, in July.

The video comes after a surprise Nigerian military and presidency announcement on October 17 that a deal had been reached with the militants to end hostilities. A senior presidential aide to Goodluck Jonathan also said agreement had been reached to free the schoolgirls, whose abduction sparked global anger and demands for their release. There was immediate scepticism about both claims because of previous assertions of ceasefires and the identity of the purported Boko Haram envoy at the supposed talks, Danladi Ahmadu.

boko-haram-nigeria_2908319b.jpg

A still from a video released by Boko Haram in April claiming to show the missing Nigerian schoolgirls

Violence - and fresh kidnappings - have continued unabated since the announcement, including a triple bombing of a bus station in the northern city of Gombe on Friday that killed at least eight. Nigeria's government maintains that talks were ongoing in the Chadian capital, Ndjamena. But Shekau, speaking in Hausa, dressed in military fatigues and boots with a black turban, and flanked by 15 armed fighters, said: "We have not made ceasefire with anyone... "We did not negotiate with anyone... It's a lie. It's a lie. We will not negotiate. What is our business with negotiation? Allah said we should not." He also said he did not know Mr Danladi.

There was no indication of when or where the video was shot but it was obtained through the same channels as previous communications from the group. In it, Shekau mentions the Chibok girls for the first time since a video obtained on May 5, when more than 100 were shown in a rural location dressed in the hijab and reciting verses from the Koran. Then, the militant leader said many of the girls had converted to Islam but in the latest, he indicated that all of those held had become Muslims. "Don't you know the over 200 Chibok schoolgirls have converted to Islam? They have now memorised two chapters of the Koran," he said.

Shekau previously threatened to sell the girls as slave brides and also suggested that he would be prepared to release them in exchange for Boko Haram prisoners. In the latest message, he said while laughing: "We have married them off. They are in their marital homes." Shekau's claim in the video that they were "holding your German hostage" is the first claim of responsibility for the abduction, which happened on July 16. The German foreign ministry in Berlin said it did not want to comment when contacted by AFP.

Boko Haram says it will not release girls - Telegraph

See also:

Boko Haram denies truce, kidnapped girls married
Nov 1,`14 -- The leader of Nigeria's Islamic extremist group Boko Haram has denied agreeing to any cease-fire with the government and said more than 200 kidnapped schoolgirls all have converted to Islam and been married off.
In a new video released late Friday night, Abubakar Shekau dashed hopes for a prisoner exchange to get the girls released. "The issue of the girls is long forgotten because I have long ago married them off," he said, laughing. "In this war, there is no going back," he said in the video received by The Associated Press in the same way as previous messages.

Nigeria's chief of defense staff, Air Chief Marshal Alex Badeh, on Oct. 17 announced that Boko Haram had agreed to an immediate cease-fire to end a 5-year-old insurgency that has killed thousands of people and driven hundreds of thousands from their homes in northeast Nigeria. But attacks and abductions have continued with the extremists this week seizing Mubi, a town of more than 200,000 people. Fighting also continued Friday in Vimtin, the nearby village where Badeh was born.

Shekau in August announced that Boko Haram wanted to establish an Islamic caliphate, along the lines of the IS group in Syria and Iraq. Fleeing residents have reported that hundreds of people are being detained for infractions of the extremists' version of strict Shariah law in several towns and villages under their control. Boko Haram's kidnapping of 276 schoolgirls taking exams at a boarding school in the remote northeastern town of Chibok in April prompted an international campaign for their release and criticism of Nigeria's government for not acting quickly to free them. Dozens of the girls escaped on their own in the first couple of days, but 219 remain missing.

Unconfirmed reports have indicated that the girls have been broken up into several groups and that some may have been carried across borders into Cameroon and Chad. The government had said it had negotiated with two Boko Haram leaders in Chad, with talks hosted by President Idriss Deby, and that it was confident the girls would be freed soon. But Boko Haram has many factions.

MORE
 

Forum List

Back
Top