BREAKING : Moscow "shots were fired at the British warship HMS Defender in the Black Sea"

[Silver Cat]

. That is UK territory, just as the waters around Guam are US territory.

Crimea is Russian territory. Same goes for half of the territory that now belongs to Ukraine. Sooner or later, they will return home, as well as the Crimea. The fascist rulers of Ukraine know this and therefore seek to cultivate feelings of hatred for the russians in order to prolong their thievish power.

I see, Comrade. SO I guess we should then just go ahead and let them take over everything to the border of old East Germany again, right?

Go ahead and gobble up most of Poland and Finland also, as that was once Russian territory.

Yea, the Ukraine stole it, right.

No. I think, that right now China is much more important than even the whole Europe. We can't get Russia on our side (or even turn them East) without allowing them to eliminate treats in Europe (whatever they consider as a treat). And, clearly, the USA should not be distracted from their main goals. China, and Southeast Asia are more important than Ukraine, Poland or even Germany and France.

And where exactly is China expanding? Building up some islands and trying to claim more ocean?

Hongkong, Macau, some lands in Russia and India. But what is more important, they are raising economically. If we do nothing, in 2025 dollar will cost less then paper. And they make our sanctions against Russia ineffective.
Russia, as an ally of China is almost invulnerable economically.
China, as an ally of Russia is almost invulnerable military.
To brake this combination (and the whole Shanghai Pact) we have to be much more strong, smart, united, disciplined and flexible than we used to be.

Russia on the other hand is repeating a play right out of the Hitler plan. Taking over chunks of territory, claiming it as being "theirs", and doing it a piece at a time, waiting for the uproar over one such chunk before taking over the other.

So what? It isn't bad by itself.

That bothers me much more, because they are actually taking over parts of other countries, not just "making land" as China is doing. China kills some coral and displaces some fish. Russia kills people and they have to submit to new masters, or flee with nothing but what they have on their back.

Better they, than we. What scenario would you prefer?
1) Russian large-scale invasion in Europe;
2) Collapse of the USA and then - Chinese occupation.

And since you see them as "Fascist", in your mind that seems to forgive anything that is done to them. Once again, your bias and propaganda is noticed. Why not just take over all of Ukraine, then? Is not like they have not done so before and killed millions of people.

If they want to take over all of Ukraine - let them do so. If we are supporting anti-Russian regimes, discriminating Russians on the "West-controlled" lands, we are marking ourselves as "enemies of all Russians". We just can't say "Russian lives don't matter" and expect them not becoming anti-West. They have pretty traumatic experience of the "Western barbarians" invading their lands every century and they react in their typical manner.

 

[ESay]

. And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

That's enough

Enough for whom? For you? Then don't be surprised about possible incidents in the future.

 

[ESay]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

 

[Silver Cat]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

 

[ESay]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

Help them from what? A couple of Russian gunshots made from a safe distance and in a safe direction?

 

[Mushroom]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

And is when Russia sails off our shores "provocation" also?

 

[Silver Cat]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

China recognize, that the Falklands right now are under British control, but they say, that the Malvinas must be returned to Argentina.

Chinese envoy calls for end to colonialism, expounds China's position on Malvinas - Xinhua | English.news.cn

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UNITED NATIONS, June 24 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese envoy on Thursday called for international efforts to put an end to colonialism and expounded China's position on the Malvinas Islands.

The question of the Malvinas Islands, also known as the Falklands, is essentially a legacy of colonialism, said Geng Shuang, China's deputy permanent representative to the United Nations.

Colonialism has brought great suffering to the world and left an extremely disgraceful page in human history. Today in the 21st century, long gone are the days when Western colonialists had free rein. However, in international relations, colonial thinking, power politics, and bullying, which share the origin with colonialism, are still manifested in various forms, seriously impacting the normal international order and severely undermining the sovereignty, security, and development rights of countries concerned, as well as their political, economic, and social stability, he said.

"The international community must remain highly vigilant about this," he told a session of the UN Special Committee on Decolonization.

This year marks the first year of the Fourth International Decade for the Eradication of Colonialism. The international community should continue to take necessary measures to uphold fairness and justice, ensure that all forms and manifestations of colonialism are genuinely put to an end and promote the decolonization process of the 17 UN non-self-governing territories, including the Malvinas Islands, said Geng.

Britain and other administering powers should earnestly fulfill their international obligations in accordance with relevant UN resolutions and protect the legitimate rights of the people of the non-self-governing territories, he said.

China's position on the question of the Malvinas Islands has been consistent. It firmly supports Argentina's sovereignty claim on the Malvinas Islands, he said. "China has always maintained that territorial disputes between countries should be resolved through peaceful negotiations in line with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. We hope Britain will actively respond to Argentina's request, start dialogue and negotiations as soon as possible with a view to finding a peaceful, just and lasting solution in accordance with relevant UN resolutions."
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[Silver Cat]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

Help them from what? A couple of Russian gunshots made from a safe distance and in a safe direction?

Accidents, anyway are possible. For example, the Russians launch bigger [accident-prone] military drills right next to HMS "Queen Elizabeth". If British self-confidence is based on something real, then, few accidental anti-ship missiles should not be a problem.

Russia launches drills in Mediterranean after HMS Defender incident

Russian fighter jets, warships and submarines launched military exercises in the Mediterranean today while tracking Britain’s aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabe

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[ESay]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

China recognize, that the Falklands right now are under British control, but they say, that the Malvinas must be returned to Argentina.

Chinese envoy calls for end to colonialism, expounds China's position on Malvinas - Xinhua | English.news.cn

------------------------------------------------

UNITED NATIONS, June 24 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese envoy on Thursday called for international efforts to put an end to colonialism and expounded China's position on the Malvinas Islands.

The question of the Malvinas Islands, also known as the Falklands, is essentially a legacy of colonialism, said Geng Shuang, China's deputy permanent representative to the United Nations.

Colonialism has brought great suffering to the world and left an extremely disgraceful page in human history. Today in the 21st century, long gone are the days when Western colonialists had free rein. However, in international relations, colonial thinking, power politics, and bullying, which share the origin with colonialism, are still manifested in various forms, seriously impacting the normal international order and severely undermining the sovereignty, security, and development rights of countries concerned, as well as their political, economic, and social stability, he said.

"The international community must remain highly vigilant about this," he told a session of the UN Special Committee on Decolonization.

This year marks the first year of the Fourth International Decade for the Eradication of Colonialism. The international community should continue to take necessary measures to uphold fairness and justice, ensure that all forms and manifestations of colonialism are genuinely put to an end and promote the decolonization process of the 17 UN non-self-governing territories, including the Malvinas Islands, said Geng.

Britain and other administering powers should earnestly fulfill their international obligations in accordance with relevant UN resolutions and protect the legitimate rights of the people of the non-self-governing territories, he said.

China's position on the question of the Malvinas Islands has been consistent. It firmly supports Argentina's sovereignty claim on the Malvinas Islands, he said. "China has always maintained that territorial disputes between countries should be resolved through peaceful negotiations in line with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. We hope Britain will actively respond to Argentina's request, start dialogue and negotiations as soon as possible with a view to finding a peaceful, just and lasting solution in accordance with relevant UN resolutions."
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Not relevant. I asked what countries actually recognize that. Not about some diplomatic bluff.

 

[frigidweirdo]

UK denies Moscow fired warning shots at Royal Navy ship off ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › world › jun › russian-sh...



2 hours ago — The UK has rejected claims from Moscow that warning shots were fired at the British warship HMS Defender in the Black Sea on Wednesday

Russia says it chases British destroyer out of Crimea waters with warning shots, bombs

Russia said on Wednesday it had fired warning shots and dropped bombs in the path of a British warship to chase it out of waters Moscow claims in the Black Sea off the coast of the Crimea peninsula.

www.reuters.com

1) British state ´ll always have our support , 2) still did Putin fire at the British warship HMS Defender in the Black Sea? or its just Moscow propaganda.RU ?

Russia says it chases British destroyer out of Crimea waters with warning shots, bombs

Russia said on Wednesday it had fired warning shots and dropped bombs in the path of a British warship to chase it out of waters Moscow claims in the Black Sea off the coast of the Crimea peninsula.

www.reuters.com

It's cheaper to say you did it, than to actually do it. And you'll get the same press, or perhaps even more, from it.

 

[ESay]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

Help them from what? A couple of Russian gunshots made from a safe distance and in a safe direction?

Accidents, anyway are possible. For example, the Russians launch bigger [accident-prone] military drills right next to HMS "Queen Elizabeth". If British self-confidence is based on something real, then, few accidental anti-ship missiles should not be a problem.

Russia launches drills in Mediterranean after HMS Defender incident

Russian fighter jets, warships and submarines launched military exercises in the Mediterranean today while tracking Britain’s aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabe

www.thetimes.co.uk

The British and Russian groups will be operating in international waters. And the Brits will be doing what is planned in their exercise program.

 

[Litwin]

UK denies Moscow fired warning shots at Royal Navy ship off ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › world › jun › russian-sh...



2 hours ago — The UK has rejected claims from Moscow that warning shots were fired at the British warship HMS Defender in the Black Sea on Wednesday

Russia says it chases British destroyer out of Crimea waters with warning shots, bombs

Russia said on Wednesday it had fired warning shots and dropped bombs in the path of a British warship to chase it out of waters Moscow claims in the Black Sea off the coast of the Crimea peninsula.

www.reuters.com

1) British state ´ll always have our support , 2) still did Putin fire at the British warship HMS Defender in the Black Sea? or its just Moscow propaganda.RU ?

Russia says it chases British destroyer out of Crimea waters with warning shots, bombs

Russia said on Wednesday it had fired warning shots and dropped bombs in the path of a British warship to chase it out of waters Moscow claims in the Black Sea off the coast of the Crimea peninsula.

www.reuters.com

It's cheaper to say you did it, than to actually do it. And you'll get the same press, or perhaps even more, from it.

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

Help them from what? A couple of Russian gunshots made from a safe distance and in a safe direction?

Accidents, anyway are possible. For example, the Russians launch bigger [accident-prone] military drills right next to HMS "Queen Elizabeth". If British self-confidence is based on something real, then, few accidental anti-ship missiles should not be a problem.

Russia launches drills in Mediterranean after HMS Defender incident

Russian fighter jets, warships and submarines launched military exercises in the Mediterranean today while tracking Britain’s aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabe

www.thetimes.co.uk

The British and Russian groups will be operating in international waters. And the Brits will be doing what is planned in their exercise program.

this what we need to do

 

[Silver Cat]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

Help them from what? A couple of Russian gunshots made from a safe distance and in a safe direction?

Accidents, anyway are possible. For example, the Russians launch bigger [accident-prone] military drills right next to HMS "Queen Elizabeth". If British self-confidence is based on something real, then, few accidental anti-ship missiles should not be a problem.

Russia launches drills in Mediterranean after HMS Defender incident

Russian fighter jets, warships and submarines launched military exercises in the Mediterranean today while tracking Britain’s aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabe

www.thetimes.co.uk

The British and Russian groups will be operating in international waters. And the Brits will be doing what is planned in their exercise program.

And, of course, they must be prepared for possible accidents, probability of which they just increased.

 

[ESay]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

Ha! It was not coordinated even with other ships of CSG21, for example, with HNLMS Evertseen. It was a pure British provocation.

What makes you think so? And what such coordination should have looked like according to your point?

Because American, Netherland, and even Ukrainian ships were not ready to help them, or at least gather information. Anyway, it was bad time for provocation.

Help them from what? A couple of Russian gunshots made from a safe distance and in a safe direction?

Accidents, anyway are possible. For example, the Russians launch bigger [accident-prone] military drills right next to HMS "Queen Elizabeth". If British self-confidence is based on something real, then, few accidental anti-ship missiles should not be a problem.

Russia launches drills in Mediterranean after HMS Defender incident

Russian fighter jets, warships and submarines launched military exercises in the Mediterranean today while tracking Britain’s aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabe

www.thetimes.co.uk

The British and Russian groups will be operating in international waters. And the Brits will be doing what is planned in their exercise program.

And, of course, they must be prepared for possible accidents, probability of which they just increased.

Every military unit should be prepared for this. Otherwise, what use do they have?

 

[Silver Cat]

They definitely can read the maps. And the maps say it is Ukraine's waters.

And the waters around the Falkland Islands, thousands of miles from England, belong to Argentina?
By the way, who owns Gibraltar? Spain continues to believe that it belongs to her....

Clearly, they can read maps. The provocation was carried out by order from above. Johnson ordered this and said that he would do it in the future. Why this freak wants to provoke a war is an interesting question.

"A BBC journalist published a video from the destroyer Defender"
Is there a BBC journalist on the staff of every warship of Her Majesty, or only those who are sent to arrange provocations?
A very important question, by the way.

Name at least one country which doesn't recognize the Falklands and Gibraltar as Britain ruled territory (maybe only Argentina in the first case). And name at least one country except of Russia which recognizes Crimea to be a Russian part.

Of course, the move of the British ship was prearranged. And coordinated with the US.

China recognize, that the Falklands right now are under British control, but they say, that the Malvinas must be returned to Argentina.

Chinese envoy calls for end to colonialism, expounds China's position on Malvinas - Xinhua | English.news.cn

------------------------------------------------

UNITED NATIONS, June 24 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese envoy on Thursday called for international efforts to put an end to colonialism and expounded China's position on the Malvinas Islands.

The question of the Malvinas Islands, also known as the Falklands, is essentially a legacy of colonialism, said Geng Shuang, China's deputy permanent representative to the United Nations.

Colonialism has brought great suffering to the world and left an extremely disgraceful page in human history. Today in the 21st century, long gone are the days when Western colonialists had free rein. However, in international relations, colonial thinking, power politics, and bullying, which share the origin with colonialism, are still manifested in various forms, seriously impacting the normal international order and severely undermining the sovereignty, security, and development rights of countries concerned, as well as their political, economic, and social stability, he said.

"The international community must remain highly vigilant about this," he told a session of the UN Special Committee on Decolonization.

This year marks the first year of the Fourth International Decade for the Eradication of Colonialism. The international community should continue to take necessary measures to uphold fairness and justice, ensure that all forms and manifestations of colonialism are genuinely put to an end and promote the decolonization process of the 17 UN non-self-governing territories, including the Malvinas Islands, said Geng.

Britain and other administering powers should earnestly fulfill their international obligations in accordance with relevant UN resolutions and protect the legitimate rights of the people of the non-self-governing territories, he said.

China's position on the question of the Malvinas Islands has been consistent. It firmly supports Argentina's sovereignty claim on the Malvinas Islands, he said. "China has always maintained that territorial disputes between countries should be resolved through peaceful negotiations in line with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. We hope Britain will actively respond to Argentina's request, start dialogue and negotiations as soon as possible with a view to finding a peaceful, just and lasting solution in accordance with relevant UN resolutions."
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Not relevant. I asked what countries actually recognize that. Not about some diplomatic bluff.

There is no need in a special act of recognition. Look, for example, on the Senkaku Islands Dispute. The USA recognize existence of China, the USA recognize existence of Japan, the USA recognize existence of the Senkaku Islands as a disputed territory.

Anyway, what Brits did, was obviously not an "innocent passage". It was an act of espionage and propaganda.

 

[Ringo]

That's enough

Enough for whom? For you? Then don't be surprised about possible incidents in the future.

Go ahead, make their day.

 

[ESay]

Anyway, what Brits did, was obviously not an "innocent passage". It was an act of espionage and propaganda

They were passing through Ukraine's waters. Has Ukraine issued an objection about this passage?

 

[Silver Cat]

Anyway, what Brits did, was obviously not an "innocent passage". It was an act of espionage and propaganda

They were passing through Ukraine's waters. Has Ukraine issued an objection about this passage?

Ha! If those waters are "Ukrainian", why Ukrainian fleet didn't protected them? De facto - Crymea is under Russian control. De facto - Russian fleet controls it's territorial waters. De facto - it was not an "innocent passage", it was a provocation. The difference between Ukrainian and Russian claims is simple - the Russians can really sink the provocators.

 

[ESay]

Ha! If those waters are "Ukrainian", why Ukrainian fleet didn't protected them? De facto - Crymea is under Russian control. De facto - Russian fleet controls it's territorial waters. De facto - it was not an "innocent passage", it was a provocation

And nonetheless it is Ukraine's waters. Russia is in no position to claim about some violation because it gained these territories by violation. The Brits didn't claim about their right on passage because of the right of innocent passage. This trend was pushed by Russian propaganda.

No, they had a right on passage because they considered it to be a Ukraine's territory. That was claimed on the first day.

The Russians can go fuck themselves with their bullshit of innocent passage. The ship wasn't going through the waters off Sochi or Novorossiysk.

The difference between Ukrainian and Russian claims is simple - the Russians can really sink the provocators

Yeah? Why didn't they do that?

 

[Ringo]

And nonetheless it is Ukraine's waters.
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Yeah? Why didn't they do that?

No, it is not. Crimea is russian territory. Since 1783. Longer, then most of US territory, stolen from indians.
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Next time they can do that. Beware of what you are asking for.